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How do I get my Butterball turkey to have a nice golden hue without the meat getting dry?
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News Beauty and the Beast sing-along coming to Epcot's France Pavilion
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How do I get my Butterball turkey to have a nice golden hue without the meat getting dry?
ChrisFL
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jt04
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Maybe the other attraction-less pavilions will take note. Attractions draw guests. Guests buy merchandise. Profit.
aladdin2007
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no lines at all for that horrible show today, and the park was packed.
HauntedMansionFLA
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For the France show?
aladdin2007
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the sing along yes
HauntedMansionFLA
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Yes. It was crazy. They might have to expand the hours later into the evening.
HauntedMansionFLA
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Has the France show ever had crowds like that??
Magenta Panther
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Also, after seeing the new animation it bugs me why they state Lefou was in the castle already when Gaston's men raided it when he clearly was with them after he was told to stay guard at Belle's cottage...
Yeah, and remember when he tried to melt Lumiere?
Isn't he just the cutest little sadist/pyromaniac?
So misunderstood! 
Haymarket2008
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Isn’t there legit plans to do a full update of IDF? Isn’t this just a temporary thing that’ll run for a couple years?
gustaftp
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Who is this Rob Plays guy, anyway? He seems to be under the, ahem, impression that watching IdF on your home TV is the same experience as watching it in the Palais du Cinema and that Beauty and the Beast is "good" because it is "popular". He claims that France pavilion doesn't need to inspire young people to interact with French culture because "cell phones" and "YouTube" -- never mind the fact that BatB is in a common video format and IdF is not. And never mind the fact that watching something on a home TV or iPad or cell phone lacks the gravitas such a presentation requires. And that sometimes (/usually/often) you need to have authentic experiences (or as close to it as possible) to inspire you.
"I was inspired to study French thanks to a 10 second TikTok clip!" or "I was inspired to study French because I sang along with a cartoon character mantle clock in British English" said no one ever.
Might as well say that you don't need to see the Mona Lisa (or any other piece of art) in person because you can just see it on a 4K TV. So let's all sing along to BatB because it is "good"!
"I was inspired to study French thanks to a 10 second TikTok clip!" or "I was inspired to study French because I sang along with a cartoon character mantle clock in British English" said no one ever.
Might as well say that you don't need to see the Mona Lisa (or any other piece of art) in person because you can just see it on a 4K TV. So let's all sing along to BatB because it is "good"!
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SeaCastle
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I so badly want you to be wrong about this but that would entail me having to come to terms with the fact that maybe guests don't want to see a beloved travelogue that has played for 40 years anymore and would rather sing a long with their beloved Disney characters.
That isn't an indictment against Impressions, but rather against the cynical calculation that Disney is making-- that people need IP to relate to the parks, not the other way around.
trainplane3
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Is anyone surprised it has a line? It opened a few days ago. Let's give it a few months and see what happens.
Personal expectation:
It's going to pull more then IdF, easily. Will it be as crazy as it is in that picture? I doubt it. But it's going to keep a decent crowd coming to it. And I say that as someone that loves IdF.
Personal expectation:
It's going to pull more then IdF, easily. Will it be as crazy as it is in that picture? I doubt it. But it's going to keep a decent crowd coming to it. And I say that as someone that loves IdF.
DonaldDoleWhip
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Honestly, I can accept that interest in Impressions has declined; the film is great but has been running for almost 40 years. It could probably use an update merely to reduce the number of 80s outfits shown, but it’s had a good run and still holds up. Félicitations.
That said, as someone who grew up loving the early Renaissance films, I can’t understand why there’s any interest in this project. We’ve got New Fantasyland; we’ve got the ‘vintage’ DHS stage show; we’ve got Disney+ and free access to the film’s highlights on YouTube. Who wanted this?
That said, as someone who grew up loving the early Renaissance films, I can’t understand why there’s any interest in this project. We’ve got New Fantasyland; we’ve got the ‘vintage’ DHS stage show; we’ve got Disney+ and free access to the film’s highlights on YouTube. Who wanted this?
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gustaftp
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While I don't have historical numbers for this particular pavilion, let's not forget that EPCOT had higher attendance when they didn't have movie characters being shoved into every corner they could be conceivably shoehorned in.
EPCOT (and all theme parks) need to have experiences that can be enjoyed by a variety of people, not just the people who want movie characters or thrills. I find the fact that the France pavilion now does very little to impart any French culture to be highly problematic. The whole pavilion could be dropped into the MK at this point.
Sir_Cliff
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Yes, this is looking very worrying for the future of World Showcase. A France Pavilion that serves as the setting for a Beauty & the Beast film and a Ratatouille ride as well as some shops and restaurants is really just a little slice of Fantasyland. This is why I am so disappointed they've made the setting for the Ratatouille ride so cartoony even though I didn't have such a problem with the ride itself. The whole conceit of World Showcase seems to be dissolving from visiting representations of different countries and cultures to visiting the international settings of your favourite Disney films.
I'm sure they'll have success with this, but I have to wonder at what point turning the parks into a place for fans of Disney films starts to limit their appeal.
FigmentJedi
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YouTuber that runs a channel focused on Disney park history and minutia, often going into deep cut subjects that's also so accepting of change, he doesn't really care what gets ripped out.
trainplane3
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Extremely good points! And hopefully people will catch on to that.