Beastly Kingdom Is Back

[jt04]

Damn Slytherins....:lol:



From what Martin said, I think it's just going to take over the BK Plot.:shrug:


Either way, the concept that we all want, and visualize is dead.

Well, we all didn't want it. :lookaroun

I definitely prefer the MI-esque concept to BK. Although I wouldn't mind seeing some of the better ideas of BK incorporated in the new land. They could even name it BK. By the way, it seems to me the new Fantasyland is somewhat BK-ish in style if not in scope (no Dragon Tower). But we might get a beast castle.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Well, we all didn't want it. :lookaroun

I definitely prefer the MI-esque concept to BK. Although I wouldn't mind seeing some of the better ideas of BK incorporated in the new land. They could even name it BK. By the way, it seems to me the new Fantasyland is somewhat BK-ish in style if not in scope (no Dragon Tower). But we might get a beast castle.

As do I. But I think the name MI works much better. Dragons and Unicorns can be mysterious, too, you know....:lol:

 

[Dinoman96]

As do I. But I think the name MI works much better. Dragons and Unicorns can be mysterious, too, you know....:lol:

Beastly Island anyone? XD

 

[EPCOTPluto]

Oh very well. There already is the Yeti. There probably won't be a land devoted to the mysterious (more in a sec), but rather spread out throughout DAK. It's why I prefer Mysterious Isle. It probably won't be as devoted to the mythical as BK was meant to be, but as mysterious doesn't have to mean mythical, it would be better for ANYTHING to go in DAK now.

 

[EPCOT Explorer]

Beastly Island anyone? XD

Mysterious Kingdom!:lol:

 

[unkadug]

Conundrum-

Not sure what your position is within the company or how often you're briefed on projects, but recently there's been quite a bit of movement for proposed projects for WDW I've seen that actually have been given the green light...

We can discuss these matters in more detail via PM if you would like.

Afraid to admit in public that you are full of hot air?

 

[jt04]

Afraid to admit in public that you are full of hot air?

I almost fell out of my chair reading his "PM discussion" comment. The guy is unbelieveable. Can anyone on these boards vouch that conundrum is an insider? I know wdw74 has connections and people here can verify it but can anyone else say the same for enigma?

:veryconfu:veryconfu:veryconfu:veryconfu:veryconfu

 

[Dinoman96]

OKAY LOOK PEOPLE

This topic is about a possible expansion to AK, not this weird arguement. :dazzle:

 

[jt04]

OKAY LOOK PEOPLE

This topic is about a possible expansion to AK, not this weird arguement. :dazzle:

It'a all part of this forum. If people are going to state they have insider information it is fair to ask for credentials which can be proveded without revealing sources or personal information that could get people in trouble. Happens all the time on this forum. And if you don't like someone's posting style you have an "ignore" option.

Thanks. :wave:

 

[marsrunner]

OKAY LOOK PEOPLE

This topic is about a possible expansion to AK, not this weird arguement. :dazzle:

Man: I came here for a good argument!
Other Man: AH, no you didn't, you came here for an argument!
Man: An argument isn't just contradiction.
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Other Man: Well! it CAN be!
Man: No it ISN'T! Argument is an intellectual process. Contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.

 

[Captain Chaos]

With this nonsense fighting, countdown to thread close in:

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[jt04]

With this nonsense fighting, countdown to thread close in:

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They only lock forums that go political etc. It's not like it happens much. Could we stop with the hyper-sensitivity? Nobody is arguing. It's a discussion.

 

[The Conundrum]

Afraid to admit in public that you are full of hot air?

What is your problem with me exactly?? You seem to attack me in every single thread out of the blue.

and to shut JT up I have never ever claimed to be an "insider" and just a tip if someone really was an insider they wouldn't take the time to post inside information on an internet message board.

 

[unkadug]

What is your problem with me exactly?? You seem to attack me in every single thread out of the blue.

OK...where to start.

Let's see you used be known as Arch Angel then created a new user name which is against forum rules.

You have zero credibility.
Your original profile (ArchAngel which the mods have now deleted) said you were a male. Your current profile says that you a female. So right there you have lied, therefore anything and everything that you post is now called into question as you have proven that you can't be trusted.

When confronted with this information before, you simply brushed it off with a none of your business reply.

You have never proven that any of your so called inside information is anything more than rehashed info garnished from other websites that you admit to frequenting.

You are constantly negative.

Your CONSTANT bickering with jt gets old.

You are irritating.

You are grating.

I'm sure there is more, but that should suffice for now.

I won't even go into the enigma stuff. :wave:

 

[scpergj]

OK...where to start.

Let's see you used be known as Arch Angel then created a new user name which is against forum rules.

You have zero credibility.
Your original profile (ArchAngel which the mods have now deleted) said you were a male. Your current profile says that you a female. So right there you have lied, therefore anything and everything that you post is now called into question as you have proven that you can't be trusted.

When confronted with this information before, you simply brushed it off with a none of your business reply.

You have never proven that any of your so called inside information is anything more than rehashed info garnished from other websites that you admit to frequenting.

You are constantly negative.

Your CONSTANT bickering with jt gets old.

You are irritating.

You are grating.

I'm sure there is more, but that should suffice for now.

I won't even go into the enigma stuff. :wave:

Yup...I'll go along with that. All the arguing seems so...so...junior high to me!:brick:

Thanks for saying what I've obeserved for quite a while!

 

[Pumbas Nakasak]

Nope, Im not mistaken it definitely says Rumours on the top of the page, and as this is not a Fleetwood Mac site, I guess that means the site accepts a fair amount of groundless speculation.

Im also amused by the need of some to pish the highest on what is effectively an on line talking shop for sad gits with no lives. I mean how empty does your life have to be to gain any sort of satisfaction from reaching the high water mark first.

But then some do just need to be seen to be being heard, it must validate their shallow empty existence, but c’mon posting and reposting rumours about a theme park, its hardly life changing or even contributing to the benefits of society. Perhaps some need to remember that.

 

[jedimaster1227]

well where is everybody?:veryconfu

Those of us that used to be active here have been deterred by all of the trolls, bickering and negativity... I know I've chosen to stay away because of the hundreds of threads that have popped up in recent months that are exactly like this monstrosity... :shrug:

The rumors that are "BS" are an expansion to Frontierland or Adventureland. But Mysterious Beastly Island Kingdom :lookaroun sounds possible, even likely.

I've heard no rumors about Frontierland or Adventureland, but I wouldn't consider any Animal Kingdom expansion a sure deal yet. In fact, I wouldn't consider anything truth at this point until construction begins... :shrug:

Hey now, don't be mean to Dinoland itself. Be mean to Dino-Rama, now thats the main problem.

Trust me when I say that Dinoland is the last problem Walt Disney World will consider dealing with anytime soon. It does what it was designed to do, and has fit the criteria set for it. There won't be any major work on Dinoland (as a whole) for some time.

Unfortunately, as part of B&M's deal with the Busch parks, there can't be any other flying coasters within 100 miles or so of Sea World. Disney could build a Vekoma flyer (which is actually more likely since almost all Disney coasters are Vekomas), but they are very painful. Either way, yes it would be cool, but up to Disney standards, not really.

I hate to be the one to say this, but there isn't any exclusivity contract with B&M regarding Flyers as far as I've been told. The only deal of that type that was ever made between Busch Entertainment and B&M was with the Dive Machines while Sheikra and Griffon were being developed.

Manta was a single contract and while another Busch park may receive something similar, B&M is good and free to distribute their product in whatever way they see fit.

And just for the record, I don't think we'll ever see a flying coaster from any manufacturer, whether it is Vekoma, Zamperla or B&M make its way onto Disney property, considering that most of their elements and sensations are far more thrilling and far larger in scale than Disney is used to handling. Thats not to say that they can't, more to say that they most likely won't... But I've been wrong before. I never would have guessed that Disney would have built a half pipe coaster, let alone two-three... :shrug:

Actually, I've found the Vekoma flyers to be pretty smooth. Relatively speaking. I'd take a well themed one at Disney.:shrug:

I've done two so far, the first being Batwing at Six Flags America and the second being Nighthawk at Carowinds. Batwing wasn't amazing, but wasn't terrible--it was just there... Nighthawk was truly awful. My jaw and shoulders completely agree. :brick:

Rhetorical question:

Conundrum - join date April 29, 2009.

How would he even know who Corrus is?

Corrus changed his user name a long time ago and hasn't posted in about as long.

You've summed it up quite well, and rather than continue my futile efforts to make the point proven, I'll just end it here.

I truly miss the days where a troll was banned once and for all...

Can anyone on these boards vouch that conundrum is an insider?

Like was said before, and I'll say it for the last time, he has been a member of this forum too many times. With former usernames including Ghostbusters, Arch Angel, Lewis Carroll, among others, he posts with an all-too-offensive, grinding overtone that has pushed some of the more respected users away from the forums. His information, at least in the past has been found to be compiled from other forums and "borrowed" from other posters in order to claim insight in whatever way he can. He is known to insult without right or reason and belittle those that seem to oppose his "information" and can also be extremely defensive when it comes to his "supported views."

This will be the last time I put this out there, because I'm really backing off from the forums... Gone are the days when a known troll can be banned rather than embraced as a contributing member when nothing but conflict follows in the wake of his posts. I still don't understand where his base for personally attacking longtime members like myself came from, but he among others has given me plenty reason to step back. I came to this thread by request of the OP and have fulfilled that request. Now, I'm done--end rant. :wave:

 

[RSoxNo1]

Um, that is actually a tie in to Song of the South, a movie which was banned due it being called racist.

Just for clarification, I was discussing a point that I've made several times on here. People don't need to recognize the movie tie in to enjoy an attraction provided that attraction is done well. Splash Mountain's tie in is with Song of the South, a movie that Disney has done everything in their power to distance themselves from for fear of its racial undertones. However, the ride is one of the most popular attractions in the park in spite of this tie in because the story told in the attraction, and the thorough theming and ride system make it one of the best theme park attractions ever created.

Also, to the person that mentioned the Wayne's World vs. Harry Potter comparison - this could conceivably prove the same point. If there was somehow a Wayne's World attraction that was on the scope of Splash Mountain in terms of it's quality, it would still stand up today, regardless of the relevance of the movie.

I'm very excited for Harry Potter, I've never read any of the books, and I've only seen three of the movies because my ex-girlfriend was a huge fan. I'm excited because of the high expectations, and the fact that I've been waiting to experience a robo coaster since I saw it for the first time in Roller Coaster Tycoon 3.

 

[mouse_luv]

 

[CBOMB]

Sometimes these things get out if there are third-party vendors involved. This is more likely with new attraction designs as opposed to fixing an existing problem.

We have NDA's with Disney and Universal and don't use attraction names on our internal paperwork even, (not that it matters, they are generally working descriptive titles anyway) but we bring specialists in sometimes and although we are careful to maintain secrecy, I can see how things can get leaked.

I understand that, and with Disney using more, and more outside contract work the potential for leaks could be a concern. However it's the number of leaks, and the detail of them that raised a red flag to me. I'm also sure that any third party vendors would be very careful with the information that they were privy too. Especially if they wanted future contracts.

Rest assured, these and more have been around for over a year that I know of. The ecomomy got in the way.

Martin there is no doubt in my mind that Disney has been kicking these ideas around for sometime now. I am not so naive as to believe that this was all put together overnight in some grand conspiracy. I also know they are kicking things around that I will probably never hear about.

I would be extremely happy if all these rumors did come true. I don't think they will, but a portion seem to be headed to WDW. I also know what Lee MacDonal had to say, and I don't think anyone who knows him would ever question his crediability. I have to believe nothing was greenlit for WDW until late June.

While the economy certainly seems to be making a come back, I don't think it's on such a grandiose scale as to have a conservative corporation like TWDC is, to commit to mass projects in the mist of it at WDW. Especially when they already have large commitments made for DCA, DLP, HKDL, and a new park in Shanghai. Have they really, all of a sudden, changed their philosophy that much?

Do you ever remember a time when so much information, in such a short period of time, seems to be out there that has such a positive spin on it for the future of WDW? I certainly can't, however I am not as astute on the subject as you are.

It all just seemed peculiar to me. Within a weeks time there was more positive information being passed around than I can ever remember. More importantly very few words to dispute it from the insiders. It all just seemed to perfect to me. I guess I'm just to much of a skeptic. Maybe I'm looking for a reason for why all of a sudden, when one really does not exist.