Avengers Endgame Spoiler Discussion

erasure fan1

Well-Known Member
The sad part is going forward.... the studio is drunk on marvel cash... so they are going to keep trying as much as possible... even if they don’t have something great. No such thing as simply “taking a break”
I've thought that marvel would have some movies that fail a few times. Each time they prove me wrong. I'm on Record Saying guardians and antman might not end up that great. So I see what you're saying but I'm in a they've earned my trust position. I just dont see them all of a sudden Half baking the movies because endgame does fantastic. Now if Feige bows out and says, I've told my story, then I could see an issue.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I’m not sure I agree with that.

What Marvel accomplished with this series is unprecedented, and will be very difficult to replicate. They have to be aware that Disney themselves owns a cautionary tale in Lucasfilm, so there is reason to believe they’ll show restraint, and with it beginning to look like, post Far From Home, they’ll be going forward with a more manageable 1 film per year rollout.

No way the Corp overlord says “yeah, going back to 40% of your revenue targets is ok..”

They will continue to try to find the lightning in the bottle and push feige to squeeze it out. And now with a whole new library at their disposal to reboot through fox... it’s gonna be rehash/relaunch city...
 

mf1972

Well-Known Member
it’s apparently opened at $1.2 billion worldwide. avengers assemble indeed.
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Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
The sad part is going forward.... the studio is drunk on marvel cash... so they are going to keep trying as much as possible... even if they don’t have something great. No such thing as simply “taking a break”
It’s hollywood...the reason to “take a break” is what you’re doing sucks.

Yeah - guilty as charged there.

Marvel has a difficult future there...but what they’ve done will live on - because it hasn’t sucked.
 

Mike S

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So many things that were pure genius with this movie that really got the audience in our showing going. For Capt America - “Americas A**”, sceptering himself, picking up the hammer, but one that surprised me when “ he leaned over and whispered hail hydra”. Pure genius.
That “hail hydra” was such a great adaptation of a controversial comics moment.
 

SosoDude

Well-Known Member
Just some random thoughts about the future of the MCU...
Does Marvel still own the rights to the Micronauts? The quantum realm is very similar to the way one would travel to the Microvese in the comics....

Since Scott Lang was able to change his age when traveling through the quantum realm, could they throw Cap through and make him young again if the need arises?

Wishful thinking, maybe.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I think with a $1.2 bil earth shattering take...

They are having a champagne party in Burbank WITH tissue for them all to cry in.

This is the classic blessing/curse. I’m not sure they ever stopped in the last 10 years and realized what they were building and how if they crossed the line they now have crossed - it can never be replicated.

Evans and Downey are going to be missed financially. Big time. They did not want to pay them a ransom for these movies (what I call jack sparrow syndrome)...Downey was paid a reported $50 for this and Hemsworth and Evans got $15...so they are trying the hard reset.

Johansson got $15 for her last movie to come. Larson got $5 and up for a 7 movie deal (2
Down)...and boseman is getting less per picture.

A lot of where endgame came from had to do with the money behind the scenes. So they “culminated” it and squeezed the wine from the grapes.

Hemsworth going to guardians is an attempt to mitigate that - my opinion.

But Disney is a stock ho-ing company these days. They’re not gonna get $2 bil takes from black panther sequels and captain Marvels. And now the fox properties are gonna require a lot of cash for reboots.

I would think “bettersweet” might be the best word of the weekend.
 

Anders Limpar

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Saw it this morning and I really loved it. Can't wait to see it again. I thought the humor was about the perfect amount and loved all the nods to the MCU i.e. the driver being named Jarvis. People already have mentioned it but the "Hail Hydra" line was great.

The first hour wasn't problematic to me. How often does a movie come out and it's all about explosions and CGI with no story or character development. I thought it was refreshing and considering it's the last chapter for some of these characters, the first hour was worth it.

I guess I expected more deaths, not that less deaths was disappointing. Never saw Black Widow dying in a million years.

This (these) movie(s) have a ton of heart and that's why Tony's death hits you so hard and Captain America coming back as an older man who will no longer be part of the Avengers has a huge emotional impact. Any movie can kill off a main character but if the audience doesn't have an emotional connection/investment to the character then who cares? It would just be done for shock value. Maybe it's a little unfair bc nobody has the opportunity to build a 22 movie literal cinematic universe of character development and audience's emotional investment, etc. Tom and RJD knocked that scene out of the park.

Thor's personality being different didn't bother me. He was quite a different Thor in Ragnarok so the change in character in this movie didn't seem out of place to me. I really hope he is in GOTG 3 bc the scenes we have seen so far where he interacts with the Guardians are incredible

In IW I really thought Red Skull sounded like Littlefinger and I feel the same way after Endgame. I'm familiar with the actor bc I've watched The Walking Dead, idk it's just odd to me that Hugo Weaving gave Red Skull a bit of an accent befitting where his character is from and Ross Marquand does an accent vaguely close to Littlefinger's (maybe a hint of Norn Ir'n in there).
 

Mike S

Well-Known Member
Saw it this morning and I really loved it. Can't wait to see it again. I thought the humor was about the perfect amount and loved all the nods to the MCU i.e. the driver being named Jarvis. People already have mentioned it but the "Hail Hydra" line was great.

The first hour wasn't problematic to me. How often does a movie come out and it's all about explosions and CGI with no story or character development. I thought it was refreshing and considering it's the last chapter for some of these characters, the first hour was worth it.

I guess I expected more deaths, not that less deaths was disappointing. Never saw Black Widow dying in a million years.

This (these) movie(s) have a ton of heart and that's why Tony's death hits you so hard and Captain America coming back as an older man who will no longer be part of the Avengers has a huge emotional impact. Any movie can kill off a main character but if the audience doesn't have an emotional connection/investment to the character then who cares? It would just be done for shock value. Maybe it's a little unfair bc nobody has the opportunity to build a 22 movie literal cinematic universe of character development and audience's emotional investment, etc. Tom and RJD knocked that scene out of the park.

Thor's personality being different didn't bother me. He was quite a different Thor in Ragnarok so the change in character in this movie didn't seem out of place to me. I really hope he is in GOTG 3 bc the scenes we have seen so far where he interacts with the Guardians are incredible

In IW I really thought Red Skull sounded like Littlefinger and I feel the same way after Endgame. I'm familiar with the actor bc I've watched The Walking Dead, idk it's just odd to me that Hugo Weaving gave Red Skull a bit of an accent befitting where his character is from and Ross Marquand does an accent vaguely close to Littlefinger's (maybe a hint of Norn Ir'n in there).
After my second viewing I’m more accepting of this movie’s Thor. He snapped out of it right when he needed to. Please though, don’t keep him fat in Guardians 3.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Saw it this morning and I really loved it. Can't wait to see it again. I thought the humor was about the perfect amount and loved all the nods to the MCU i.e. the driver being named Jarvis. People already have mentioned it but the "Hail Hydra" line was great.

The first hour wasn't problematic to me. How often does a movie come out and it's all about explosions and CGI with no story or character development. I thought it was refreshing and considering it's the last chapter for some of these characters, the first hour was worth it.

I guess I expected more deaths, not that less deaths was disappointing. Never saw Black Widow dying in a million years.

This (these) movie(s) have a ton of heart and that's why Tony's death hits you so hard and Captain America coming back as an older man who will no longer be part of the Avengers has a huge emotional impact. Any movie can kill off a main character but if the audience doesn't have an emotional connection/investment to the character then who cares? It would just be done for shock value. Maybe it's a little unfair bc nobody has the opportunity to build a 22 movie literal cinematic universe of character development and audience's emotional investment, etc. Tom and RJD knocked that scene out of the park.

Thor's personality being different didn't bother me. He was quite a different Thor in Ragnarok so the change in character in this movie didn't seem out of place to me. I really hope he is in GOTG 3 bc the scenes we have seen so far where he interacts with the Guardians are incredible

In IW I really thought Red Skull sounded like Littlefinger and I feel the same way after Endgame. I'm familiar with the actor bc I've watched The Walking Dead, idk it's just odd to me that Hugo Weaving gave Red Skull a bit of an accent befitting where his character is from and Ross Marquand does an accent vaguely close to Littlefinger's (maybe a hint of Norn Ir'n in there).
I love your review.

All I know is that I’m a harsh critic...and yet I’ve woke up the last two days thinking about this movie. That hasn’t happened to me in at least a decade. Maybe longer. The last movie that I thought about this much - no joke - was probably finding nemo...return of the king before.

This movie will be legend. I just know it based on my own reactions.

Ironman was handled fantastically...and If you didn’t like cap with falcon - I don’t know how you like anything? I really don’t. It hit the emotional notes perfectly. Stan - Mackey - and an incredible Evans.

Really amazing. It actually made infinity war a better movie...and we’ve been promised in other franchises over and over again and it never delivers.
 

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