Avengers Endgame Spoiler Discussion

DisneyJayL

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In the Parks
No
I don’t disagree with much of this, and my opinion largely probably stems from the fact that I view Stark much more of a lone soldier (to an extent), while I think Cap is the glue that holds this whole mess of clashing personalities together.
I completely understand now. Please excuse the delay in that. When looking at it that way I agree.
 

Minthorne

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I have to admit at the end I was wishing it was Stan Lee as The One Above All that came to set things right.

Overall I enjoyed the film, but time travel just makes movies less cool.
 

Darkprime

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I have to admit at the end I was wishing it was Stan Lee as The One Above All that came to set things right.

Overall I enjoyed the film, but time travel just makes movies less cool.

I like to think hes just a guy who pops up at key events in the MCU. Like an observer. Doesn't interfere with events but is there to make sure everything happens the way its suppose to. Thats why hes always in disguise. Wasn't his Guardians 2 character called The Watcher or something? Kind of implying this?
 

Mike S

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I like to think hes just a guy who pops up at key events in the MCU. Like an observer. Doesn't interfere with events but is there to make sure everything happens the way its suppose to. Thats why hes always in disguise. Wasn't his Guardians 2 character called The Watcher or something? Kind of implying this?
He was employed by the Watchers it seemed.
 

Disneyfanman

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We loved the film! My wife and I both wondered who the teenage boy was at the funeral. I looked it up and discovered it was the young boy who helped Stark in IM3, played by the same actor. I just thought that was a very cool detail; one of many in the film. I really liked most of the decisions on plot, and character development that the Russo team made. Nits aside I didn’t think what they did was possible. It exceeded my every expectation. The highest praise I can give is that I am ready to move on beyond these characters. For me it was perfect closure.

Not every film is loved by every viewer. I respect everyone’s opinion. Thanks for sharing!
 

Tony Perkis

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I have to admit at the end I was wishing it was Stan Lee as The One Above All that came to set things right.

Overall I enjoyed the film, but time travel just makes movies less cool.
I tend to disagree because, and I don’t mean this disrespect to Lee, when you see him, you’re taken out of the film. You’re seeing Stan Lee, not a character.

And that’s fine for a fun laugh.
 

Mike S

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After my second viewing I also notice how Captain Marvel really feels like an odd one out. Nick Fury specifically calls her and she’s barely in the movie. There’s also barely any interaction with the other heroes and when there is any it’s always a bit confrontational until the big fight at the end. She really felt forced into the movie whereas everyone else nicely plays off one another and she only shows up when it’s convenient. I have no problem with the scene with all the girls getting together but the reasoning given for it doesn’t make any sense. When Peter hands the glove to Carol he asks “how are you going to get through all that?” The other girls come to help her get through the hoard of enemies and start taking some down but then literally one second later we see Carol fly right through an entire mass of them effortlessly. This is someone that needed “help?” I don’t buy it.

The way they built her up for this movie made me think we were in for some good expansion of her character but she was just a plot device to save Tony and Nebula and destroy Thanos’s ship. If this is all we got out of this I think they would’ve been better off introducing her after Endgame and giving her a different back story for getting her powers (since, you know, bye bye Space Stone). I enjoyed her solo film but in this one it was such a waste. If her next appearance in the MCU doesn’t give us any actual development for her I really question how she can be the new face of the franchise that’ll make people weep whenever she eventually bites the dust. People aren’t crying for Tony just because he’s Iron Man. They cry because he’s an insanely relatable flawed character that we fell in love with over his story arc.
 
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Sirwalterraleigh

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After my second viewing I also notice how Captain Marvel really feels like an odd one out. Nick Fury specifically calls her and she’s barely in the movie. There’s also barely any interaction with the other heroes and when there is any it’s always a bit confrontational until the big fight at the end. She really felt forced into the movie whereas everyone else nicely plays off one another and she only shows up when it’s convenient. I have no problem with the scene with all the girls getting together but the reasoning given for it doesn’t make any sense. When Peter hands the glove to Carol he asks “how are you going to get through all that?” The other girls come to help her get through the hoard of enemies and start taking some down but then literally one second later we see Carol fly right through an entire mass of them effortlessly. This is someone that needed “help?” I don’t buy it.

The way they built her up for this movie made me think we were in for some good expansion of her character but she was just a plot device to save Tony and Nebula and destroy Thanos’s ship. If this is all we got out of this I think they would’ve been better off introducing her after Endgame and giving her a different back story for getting her powers. I enjoyed her solo film but in this one it was such a waste. If her next appearance in the MCU doesn’t give us any actual development for her I really question how she can be the new face of the franchise that’ll make people weep whenever she eventually bites the dust. People aren’t crying for Tony just because he’s Iron Man. They cry because he’s an insanely relatable flawed character that we fell in love with over 11 years.

I think they shot her out of order and didn’t really know what the backstory was...so they hedged her portrayal in this movie. It also seems obvious the post credits in infinity was at the behest of Disney studios...not marvel.

I think there’s a bit of “agenda” at work there..:instead of letting it flow and doing what works. Very “lucasfilm” eque. That is NOT a compliment.

Here’s the behind the scenes. The original avengers are being retired because in real life - they’re actors that want to be paid.

But Disney needs marvel money...so they are forcing the “next gen” more than may work. I bet we are at the high water mark. If so - what a ride. A generational thing has been done regardless.

But they are kinda running this like a pro sports team - in my opinion.

They have a lot of weight on Brie Larson. She’s ok to this point...but next movies is huge.

And of course...here comes more reboots into the universe too. Wolverine on deck.
 

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