Avengers Campus - Reactions / Reviews

[mickEblu]

GOTG an improvement over TOT? Sure, if you like the color purple and TV screens.

Yeah that comment surprised me considering he was pretty much spot on about everything else

 

[J4546]

people have differing opinions

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

people have differing opinions

Yeah kinda of like how some people like Ghostbusters 2016 and thought it was a good idea when it is in in fact a big piece of crap. Mission Breakout is to Tower of Terror as Ghostbusters 2016 is to Ghostbusters. Everyone can have an opinion but it can be our opinion that some opinions are dumber than others.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

I think for most people who say they prefer GOTG over TOT it boils down to that DCA's TOT was the less grand and expensive of the two stateside variations on the attraction, therefore a unique attraction is superior than a cheaper clone. If WDW's Tower never existed and DCA's was the only one that was ever built, nobody would say GOTG is better.

It was not cheap. It is a well known fact that imagineers considered the DCA version them perfecting the ride system better than what's in florida that is why they cloned the dca version in paris. DCA's tower was very superior
watch this video. it explains that point of view (YOU CAN SKIP TO 15:15 TO GET TO THE PART ABOUT DCA'S TOWER AND PARIS):

 

[lazyboy97o]

It was not cheap. It is a well known fact that imagineers considered the DCA version them perfecting the ride system better than what's in florida that is why they cloned the dca version in paris. DCA's tower was very superior

It is not well known and the attraction was designed for Paris, but copied to California first because it was cheaper.

 

[mickEblu]

I think for most people who say they prefer GOTG over TOT it boils down to that DCA's TOT was the less grand and expensive of the two stateside variations on the attraction, therefore a unique attraction is superior than a cheaper clone. If WDW's Tower never existed and DCA's was the only one that was ever built, nobody would say GOTG is better.

Agree but I think that’s a flawed way to look at it as the less expensive and “uglier” TOT was still a better overall experience than GOTG:MB and not as ugly as the Collectors tower. In addition, DCAs TOT condensed ride experience wasn’t a total loss. It packed a punch and had good pacing.

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

It is not well known and the attraction was designed for Paris, but copied to California first because it was cheaper.

Watch the video. They made the ride better and more efficent. it explains it in detail. you can watch the whole Thing for greater context or skip to 15:15 for the part about DCA .

 

[lazyboy97o]

Watch the video. They made the ride better and more efficent. it explains it in detail. you can watch the whole Thing for greater context or skip to 15:15 for the part about DCA .

I don’t need to watch the video. I’m familiar with both systems and why the changes were made and used. Disney’s California Adventure didn’t even get an exterior designed for the park because they wanted it as quickly and cheaply as possible.

 

[Rich Brownn]

Watch the video. They made the ride better and more efficent. it explains it in detail. you can watch the whole Thing for greater context or skip to 15:15 for the part about DCA .

They made it easier to maintain and somewhat more efficent,. But it's certainly not better. Thats like saying WDW's Pirates is better because they got rid of the return lift.....

 

[1HAPPYGHOSTHOST]

I don’t need to watch the video. I’m familiar with both systems and why the changes were made and used. Disney’s California Adventure didn’t even get an exterior designed for the park because they wanted it as quickly and cheaply as possible.

No you need to watch it because people think the 5th element omission from DCA means Disney went cheap. No, it as removed by choice due to the issues it causes to the ride system. It was left off by choice so Disney could make a better and overall more efficent ride by having 3 shafts and 6 elevator cars going at once. The video explains this in great detail with visuals. Now the video does say while the dca version is a better design it does lose some immersiveness without the 5th dimension scene but overall the ride operates better. The point is Disney took it out by design not due to budget. the tower ride system in DCA is superior to the one in florida.

To quote the video: "There's no arguing that the second iteration of Disney's Tower of Terror is a far more optimized design compared the original Hollywood Studios version. " which is the point I am making. the ride system is better in DCA. They perfected it. Show wise that is open to debate but the ride operates better at DCA which is my original point and that was done on purpose not because of budget.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

GOTG an improvement over TOT? Sure, if you like the color purple and TV screens.

A drop tower ride based on The Color Purple would certainly be interesting, though.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Very Inclusive!

 

[lazyboy97o]

No you need to watch it because people think the 5th element omission from DCA means Disney went cheap. No, it as removed by choice due to the issues it causes to the ride system. It was left off by choice so Disney could make a better and overall more efficent ride by having 3 shafts and 6 elevator cars going at once. The video explains this in great detail with visuals. Now the video does say while the dca version is a better design it does lose some immersiveness without the 5th dimension scene but overall the ride operates better. The point is Disney took it out by design not due to budget. the tower ride system in DCA is superior to the one in florida.

To quote the video: "There's no arguing that the second iteration of Disney's Tower of Terror is a far more optimized design compared the original Hollywood Studios version. " which is the point I am making. the ride system is better in DCA. They perfected it. Show wise that is open to debate but the ride operates better at DCA which is my original point and that was done on purpose not because of budget.

They got rid of the 5th Dimension scene because fixing it would have been more expensive. The design is optimized because it was cheaper both up front and with ongoing maintenance while allowing room for more riders, making it even cheaper as a cost/rider, which is how costs are assessed across attractions. The Paris version of the Twilight Zone Tower of Terror already had high costs due to the higher cost of labor and materials. There was no way the banks holding Euro Disney SCA’s debt were going to allow Walt Disney Imagineering to spend an additional tens of millions trying to fix a finicky effect nor a few years later was the Oriental Land Company going to be interested in again financing more research and development for Disney to use elsewhere.

 

[waltography]

Just came back from back to back trips to Disneyland and DCA. A lot that I loved and didn’t love but I was happy to be back.

I went in with super low expectations (I was NOT going to wait in line to enter AC if I didn’t get the WEB boarding pass) but I surpassingly had a lot of fun. As everyone else has mentioned this land is primarily character driven which was a nice change of pace compared to GE. In the 1.5 hours I was there I saw Spider-Man (the stunt robot was incredible and got a huge reaction out of the crowd), Ironman, Black Panther, Captain Marvel, Ant-Man, Star Lord, Gamora, Doctor Strange and Black Widow so there was a LOT of character activity. I’m not even a huge MCU fan, but it was hard not to have a huge smile on my face entering the land with the Avengers music blasting throughout.

WEB Slingers is a cute ride. Spider-Man is my all-time favorite superhero and I would’ve preferred a dark ride if it had to serve the function as the young children ride but it was fun. It IS a short ride but your arms are in such constant motion it’s probably better that it isn’t longer because you definitely get a workout. “Fun” is probably the best way to describe the ride and based off my anecdotal experience the children loved it. I saw a bunch of Spider-Bots in the crowd so I’m sure Disney is patting itself on the back for this commercial home run. I’m sure once the Avengers E-Ticket gets built WEB Slingers will be looked at more fondly because it carries the burden of being the anchor of the land right now.

I wasn’t able to eat at the PYM restaurant but I got some cocktails (Honey Buzz) and they were actually pretty good. The food also looked good so I’m excited to eat there next time.

I know there seems to be a lot of pessimism or worry that the Avengers E-Ticket won’t get built but I think Disney realizes that Marvel is their premier money-making IP now that the Star Wars sequels left a bad taste in people’s mouths so I’m hoping they dedicate future budgets to expanding AC. Also, aside from Monsters Inc., the back pocket of Hollywood Land was all Marvel (they had Captain Falcon and WandaVision photo ops and the Studio store was all AC Merch) so I’m curious if/when that land gets swallowed by AC.

Glad to hear you had a similar experience as I did! The Honey Buzz was a highlight of the new food offerings for me too; I won't wait standby for it, but if I get a boarding group again it'll be a priority for me for sure.

 

[Little Green Men]

No you need to watch it because people think the 5th element omission from DCA means Disney went cheap. No, it as removed by choice due to the issues it causes to the ride system. It was left off by choice so Disney could make a better and overall more efficent ride by having 3 shafts and 6 elevator cars going at once. The video explains this in great detail with visuals. Now the video does say while the dca version is a better design it does lose some immersiveness without the 5th dimension scene but overall the ride operates better. The point is Disney took it out by design not due to budget. the tower ride system in DCA is superior to the one in florida.

To quote the video: "There's no arguing that the second iteration of Disney's Tower of Terror is a far more optimized design compared the original Hollywood Studios version. " which is the point I am making. the ride system is better in DCA. They perfected it. Show wise that is open to debate but the ride operates better at DCA which is my original point and that was done on purpose not because of budget.

@marni1971

 

[marni1971]

No you need to watch it because people think the 5th element omission from DCA means Disney went cheap. No, it as removed by choice due to the issues it causes to the ride system. It was left off by choice so Disney could make a better and overall more efficent ride by having 3 shafts and 6 elevator cars going at once. The video explains this in great detail with visuals. Now the video does say while the dca version is a better design it does lose some immersiveness without the 5th dimension scene but overall the ride operates better. The point is Disney took it out by design not due to budget. the tower ride system in DCA is superior to the one in florida.

To quote the video: "There's no arguing that the second iteration of Disney's Tower of Terror is a far more optimized design compared the original Hollywood Studios version. " which is the point I am making. the ride system is better in DCA. They perfected it. Show wise that is open to debate but the ride operates better at DCA which is my original point and that was done on purpose not because of budget.

If that’s what it says, then the video is incorrect.

The DCA version (stolen from WDSP) was a simpler, cheaper design. It had to have more shafts to make up for the lack of capacity compared to the original.

Uncle Mike was a bit miffed when he realised his cheaper remit meant no 5th D.

 

[Professortango1]

If that’s what it says, then the video is incorrect.

The DCA version (stolen from WDSP) was a simpler, cheaper design. It had to have more shafts to make up for the lack of capacity compared to the original.

Uncle Mike was a bit miffed when he realised his cheaper remit meant no 5th D.

It was more cost effective and greatly improved the pace of the attraction. They also redesigned the attraction to focus on the ghost story rather than the TV shows iconography. The WDW version feels like the hotel has a portal into a specific kitschy TV show whereas future versions feel like we are in an episode of that TV show featuring an original tale.

 

[marni1971]

It was more cost effective and greatly improved the pace of the attraction. They also redesigned the attraction to focus on the ghost story rather than the TV shows iconography. The WDW version feels like the hotel has a portal into a specific kitschy TV show whereas future versions feel like we are in an episode of that TV show featuring an original tale.

Ok.

 

[jmuboy]

I bet we see new villains showing up in the years ahead. Kinda like how smugglers run is getting new missions in the next few years

I chucked a bit. In 20 years maybe new films will come to MFSR

 

[MisterPenguin]

It was not cheap. It is a well known fact that imagineers considered the DCA version them perfecting the ride system better than what's in florida that is why they cloned the dca version in paris. DCA's tower was very superior
watch this video. it explains that point of view (YOU CAN SKIP TO 15:15 TO GET TO THE PART ABOUT DCA'S TOWER AND PARIS):

I don't think anyone here would be surprised to find out that that's not what the video says. The creator of the video says it is "optimized", but he says that in the context of "less complicated," not "perfected."

And nowhere does he mention what the imagineers think or say.

In fact, he says:

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There's no arguing that the second iteration of Disney's Tower of Terror is a far more optimized design compared to the original Hollywood Studios version, however it doesn't quite offer the same immersive experience that you can only find in Orlando.​

Again, no one here is surprised that your characterization of what the video is saying is unmoored from reality.