Avengers Campus - Reactions / Reviews

[Animaniac93-98]

I feel like Marvel's input is just concerning the accuracy of characters, their depictions, and keeping them consistent with the MCU.

I can't imagine them looking at these designs and going "yes, this is the best way to represent our multi-billion dollar brand with decades of cross-generational appeal in these parks".

 

[Animaniac93-98]

This is the Iron Man gift shop at HKDL with the ride in the background

And here's a wide shot showing Ant Man next door. The upcoming Avengers E ticket will be to the left of this area, where Autopia was.

Still "industrial" and "modern", but with more flair and certainly not "run down". Maybe California will look more like this when its done?

 

[lazyboy97o]

I feel like Marvel's input is just concerning the accuracy of characters, their depictions, and keeping them consistent with the MCU.

I can't imagine them looking at these designs and going "yes, this is the best way to represent our multi-billion dollar brand with decades of cross-generational appeal in these parks".

Marvel has their own themed entertainment group that is distinct from Walt Disney Imagineering, but includes former imagineers like Brian Crosby. Pixar also has a similar team. They don’t necessarily create but they’re also more involved than the “reasonable approval” Universal seeks.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Marvel has their own themed entertainment group that is distinct from Walt Disney Imagineering, but includes former imagineers like Brian Crosby. Pixar also has a similar team. They don’t necessarily create but they’re also more involved than the “reasonable approval” Universal seeks.

That's disappointing to hear given what's been done of late. Especially for Pixar.

 

[Mickeyboof]

Kind of like being taken to a ‘boarding school’ at Universal, lame right?

They never published “boarding school” as a description. The correct phrase would be a “school of witchcraft and wizardry,” which to me sounds absolutely epic, full of wonder and awe.

Disney quite actually calls it a campus. If “campus” isn’t the correct phrase, then what is?

 

[Mickeyboof]

This is the Iron Man gift shop at HKDL with the ride in the background

View attachment 393852

And here's a wide shot showing Ant Man next door. The upcoming Avengers E ticket will be to the left of this area, where Autopia was.

View attachment 393853

Still "industrial" and "modern", but with more flair and certainly not "run down". Maybe California will look more like this when its done?

It’s just a concrete pad with plastic looking box buildings sitting on it.

There’s just no texture, there’s no layers. There’s nothing to explore. It’s just an urban space with bland themeing.

Remove the colorful signage, the buildings would look like a state school college campus.

 

[Mickeyboof]

Kind of like being taken to a ‘boarding school’ at Universal, lame right?

Also, I do champion those who can take the mundane or uninspiring prompt and transform it into a transcendent experience.

I am willing to bet that this marvel campus will not be one of those winning concepts.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Eh... I blame Mr. Chapek.

Imagineering can design anything they want, and it can look gorgeous and lush and otherworldly. Have you seen the new version of Soarin' that just debuted this month at Tokyo DisneySea? It makes the DCA facility and queue look like an industrial storage yard, and makes the Orlando version look like a boring Midwest airport. Oh, wait, that's all WDI could give us in Anaheim and Orlando because that's all the money they had to work with.

Tokyo Soaring Fantastic Flight Interior Queue

Anaheim Soarin' Over California Interior Queue

Orlando Soarin' Around The World Interior Queue

I'm thinking Tokyo wins on this one. As it tends to do with every cloned ride they get from the American parks.

But Imagineering can only build what they are budgeted for. And Mr. Chapek gives them that budget. And then apparently Mr. Chapek even cuts the budget further after construction begins and removes all the entertainment and interactive stuff that WDI already went on record publicly stating that a project or new land would have. Because Mr. Chapek apparently knows better than the Imagineers what theme park audiences want and how to tell an effective story and IMMERSE you?

And so a Spiderman exit gift shop to the video game dark ride has to look like an oil change and brake repair place in Santa Ana?

View attachment 393673

Yes, I blame Mr. Chapek for stuff like this. Definitely Mr. Chapek.

I completely get your point, but I see this a bit differently. I'm probably the lone person here with this opinion, and I haven't seen the Tokyo Soarin in person, but to me the scale and the designs are "Vegas", overdone, and charmless. I always appreciate Disney's lavish attention to detail and showmanship, but what I see in those images shows a lack of restraint, which is typical of so many TDS projects.

 

[TROR]

I completely get your point, but I see this a bit differently and I'm probably the lone person here with this opinion, and I haven't seen the Tokyo Soarin in person, but to me the scale and the designs are "Vegas", overdone, and charmless. I always appreciate Disney's lavish attention to detail and showmanship, but what I see in those images shows a lack of restraint, which is typical of so many TDS projects.

Their Toy Story Mania is a big sinner of this. It's incredible excess for such a simple attraction.

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Their Toy Story Mania is a big sinner of this. It's incredible excess for such a simple attraction.

Yup, and the same goes for the exterior of their ToT.

 

[George Lucas on a Bench]

Their Toy Story Mania is a big sinner of this. It's incredible excess for such a simple attraction.

Same goes for Florida. But those rides have ridiculous wait times at the other resorts, so at least they have elaborately overblown themed lines for underwhelming attractions?

I don't know.

Anaheimian crowds seem content with chains.

 

[TROR]

Did you ever read the books? I was doing a post-grad work/study in Europe and I mocked my classmates endlessly for reading the books while we traveled. What grown up reads a kids book?! Then one day I was sick...I was grumpy with nothing to do and I was given the first book to read. I fully expected it to be childish...and I promptly ate my words. I think I caught up with the series by the time of the final book and immediately read it as soon as it came out (I did not attend a midnight party or anything, I still had my decorum). I completely understand your scorn IF you have never read the books. Was it already uncool for your generation? I can say that my modern era kids LOVE Potter and it’s unversally loved by all their friends. As always the books are of course superior to the movies.

My fifth grade teacher read us the first book in class. I just never really cared for it. Nothing about it hooked me. I do actually like the first two movies, but I think that's just more pure nostalgia based than anything else.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I completely get your point, but I see this a bit differently. I'm probably the lone person here with this opinion, and I haven't seen the Tokyo Soarin in person, but to me the scale and the designs are "Vegas", overdone, and charmless. I always appreciate Disney's lavish attention to detail and showmanship, but what I see in those images shows a lack of restraint, which is typical of so many TDS projects.

Yup, and the same goes for the exterior of their ToT.

Well as someone who has been to Vegas and DisneySea I disagree, especially on ToT, which feels the most like a real hotel than any other version.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

The scale and spatial relationship between buildings in DisneySea is something you can't appreciate in photos or video. Soaring's facade doesn't look so big in person, and fits the horizon line of the rest of Mediterranean Harbour when viewed from across the main lagoon. It doesn't appear out of scale like the Grand Floridian's DVC addition.

DisneySea ToT would look ridiculous if dropped in DCA's tiny Hollywood Land*, but it works perfectly for American Waterfront with it's large and detailed steamship, department store, elevated train and blvds.

*not that an alien fortress warehouse doesn't

 

[TROR]

The scale and spatial relationship between buildings in DisneySea is something you can't appreciate in photos or video. Soaring's facade doesn't look so big in person, and fits the horizon line of the rest of Mediterranean Harbour when viewed from across the main lagoon. It doesn't appear out of scale like the Grand Floridian's DVC addition.

DisneySea ToT would look ridiculous if dropped in DCA's tiny Hollywood Land*, but it works perfectly for American Waterfront with it's large and detailed steamship, department store, elevated train and blvds.

*not that an alien fortress warehouse doesn't

The problem with Galaxy’s Edge in Disneyland. But that’s another discussion.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I would also say that when Pressler and Eisner decided to rush ToT into DCA shortly after the park opened, they did not give much thought to its placement then. You can see it throughout DCA and even parts of Disneyland too. It would have been better to have it set further back with a real Sunset Blvd, but at the time they were desperate to get a new E-ticket quickly and cheaply into the park to drive up attendance...and then Bob made the same mistake with Mission: BREAKOUT 15 years later...

You can also see ToT from Frontierland at DLP (when you ride BTMRR or the riverboat) which is a shame given how much effort went into the immersion in that area originally.

At least in Florida they made the effort to have it blend with Morocco somewhat.

 

[TROR]

Will Jennifer Connelly's voice be part of the Spider-Man ride? If so, I'm doing a complete 180 on it.

 

[THE 1HAPPY HAUNT]

Will Jennifer Connelly's voice be part of the Spider-Man ride? If so, I'm doing a complete 180 on it.

i just want a Marisa Tomei AA

 

[Deleted member 107043]

Well as someone who has been to Vegas and DisneySea I disagree, especially on ToT, which feels the most like a real hotel than any other version.

That's fair, and I'm not asserting that anyone's opinion is correct, however I'm almost certain that I wouldn't like the appearance of TDS' ToT if I saw it person. That is one ugly over-designed building.

 

[TROR]

i just want a Marisa Tomei AA

Sure but how about a Jennifer Connelly AA instead? What if we just scrapped this entire land and just built a land dedicated to Jennifer Connelly's best films? Career Opportunity: The Ride.