disney fan 13
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So... I don't have time to go through 47 pages of this thread, so could someone sum up what progress Avatar has had would be greatly appreciated.
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AVATAR progress
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ThemeParks4Life
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The E Ticket will be bigger than what the blueprints showed and the boat ride will be a walkthrough.
John
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Thanks for clearing that up....makes perfect sense now. Announce something you have nothing on...no plans no budget. Sounds like the perfect business model.
doctornick
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And there is possible plans for a nighttime show and a nighttime parade.
Magenta Panther
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That's the classic Iger business model - buy something, figure out what to do with it later, if anything.
bubbles1812
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Sure it's not behind schedule... They just chose to sit on it for going on two years now. They could have easily gotten the ball rolling earlier than this. Yes, I know work has gone on behind the scenes, I get that, but again two years later and still nothing from anyone beyond "yes it is coming!"... In another 5 years! Please. I know you love yourself some Iger but come on.
danlb_2000
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So how long do other projects take to get from the idea phase to start of construction? Is it normally less then two years? Tim's point is that Avatar was announced earlier in the process then normal, so the time between announcement and construction seems longer then usual.
Also it may not be quite so soarin afterall
bubbles1812
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I wasn't necessarily referring to actual construction, though you seem to have taken my post as indicating I was specifically referring to time from idea to construction. But the fact is, two years on and they are still waffling over what the land will even have, ect. The whole project is one big behind the scenes waffle. That much is very clear.
Cosmic Commando
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I just think there's too much light going through that ride, and maybe in the wrong wavelengths. If the beloved "flying over London" scene was lit like most of Mermaid is, you'd see the cars pulled through the streets on bike chains. It doesn't mean that the AAs aren't good.
So let's say seven years total from "hey this is a good idea" to opening day. I'm saying that's normal. Completely. The difference is we usually don't hear anything until year three or four. For Avatar we found out on day one so we're seeing the entire process, making it seem abnormally slow.
The entire process is one big waffle. Always. Not just Avatar. Remember Pixie Hollow? Waffling got us 7DMT instead of a fairy meet and greet. It's not always a bad thing.
jt04
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Yes, projects of this scale are always being refined but it is obvious they are moving towards a ground-breaking later this year as was announced from nearly the beginning.
Some here can't grasp that Disney had other projects in the queue (before Pandora) and continue to move deliberately forward but at their own pace. I love that they do not react to the demands of the uninformed. They just move forward and ignore their silly critics.
jt04
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/kylesmi...7-billion-can-be-a-bargain/?utm_source=feedly
The guy with "no plans no budget" huh? Riiiiiight.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kylesmi...7-billion-can-be-a-bargain/?utm_source=feedly
The guy with "no plans no budget" huh? Riiiiiight.
He was talking specifically about announcing the Avatar expansion at DAK without having all those details nailed down and whether or not that was a smart move. We're all aware of the fact that franchise purchasing has turned into a boon for Disney at the box office.
ParentsOf4
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Don't know about you but I'm a theme park junkie. I really don't care what Iger does with the movie franchises unless he's bringing it to a theme park!
It's perfectly reasonable for you to only care about the parks. What's unreasonable is the people who evaluate Iger as if HE is only supposed to care about the parks.Don't know about you but I'm a theme park junkie. I really don't care what Iger does with the movie franchises unless he's bringing it to a theme park!
ParentsOf4
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Fully agree. Iger's juggling a lot and theme parks are only one part. It is up to his senior staff to make sure all business segments are running correctly, including theme parks. However, the CEO ultimately is responsible for all segments.
bubbles1812
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For some reason I am now craving waffles...
And no, there is a good example, though I wouldn't say that was all just Disney deciding "let's rethink this." That was at least in part due to fan outcry that things were so princess oriented and they weren't replacing the attraction they were taking out, the idiots. But 7 years is pathetic. It shouldn't take that long, shouldn't need to take that long, and it's really a testament to how poorly (ie bureaucratic nonsense) the development division can be run.
jt04
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Major investment in the parks always seem to lag everything else. I guess that is because if a movie fails they just move on to the next one. Theme park investments ideally are designed to last decades.
The economy no longer allows for something like EPCOT Center to be built in the US. Content has to be proven and established. I know many complain about this state of affairs but it is the new reality for publicly owned companies. But if projects on the scale of Carsland, Potterland and Pandora are the future, I think that works.
They could have waited like Universal did with Potter 2.0 half built. Disney decided to announce Pandora earlier than usual. That just gave the fan community a chance to offer input. I see it as a positive.