AVATAR land construction progress

[DisneyJayL]

It's a large determining factor in why people book a trip. If the preview doesn't look good it won't have the desired effect of getting people to come.

I'm gonna try to be respectful here. It's going to be difficult but I'll try.

I don't know you but you've lurked for a while as you said and it's ok to disagree. I disagree with things Disney does too, but to bring nothing else to the table other than that disagreement, and the way you've done it, makes you look like a troll. You've put yourself out there for extreme scrutiny. It seems to me you're looking for a fight. I could be wrong. Either way I'm about to enjoy my next 9 days at Disney World.

 

[tribbleorlfl]

Well, "I think" would seem to indicate that it's an opinion - just like almost everything else on these boards. I don't really have the time or inclination to conduct a detailed survey, but if I did, I'd point to the lack of Avatar toys, Avatar collectibles, the largely non-existent fan community and sparse amount of fan art, the apathetic reaction to the sequels endless delays, etc. etc. Compare all of that to Star Wars, Marvel, Dr. Who, DC, Star Trek, LOTR, Harry Potter, etc. etc. I'd point out the reaction to the character design at the time of its release. I'd also bring up many personal conversations, which are of course anecdotal, and ask you how often you've heard people compliment the design of the Na'Vi.

We're both "making it up in our heads" regarding the film's legacy, but I think there's real reasons to doubt the general public's fondness for the giant naked blue cat monsters.

Uh, there was a pretty large line of Mattel toys back when the film was released, complete with secondary characters, animals and vehicles. There were even Avatar happy meal toys, plus I remember a wide variety of supplemental products as well games, books, etc). There are some surprisingly high-dollar collectibles and prop replicas out on the market right now. Heck, it's still common to see blue and/or feline-like aliens in other media and it has become Vogue in creature design to use extra limbs. I see at least one Na'vi at MegaCon every year.

 

[Capsin4]

I think all 4 people on my ignore list have come from the Avatar Land forum.I don't even care about Avatar.

 

[twebber55]

I think all 4 people on my ignore list have come from the Avatar Land forum.I don't even care about Avatar.

am i on it?

 

[Capsin4]

am i on it?

Nope! I don't like putting people on ignore, but I don't have enough time to sort through to the good nuggets as it is.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

Well, "I think" would seem to indicate that it's an opinion - just like almost everything else on these boards. I don't really have the time or inclination to conduct a detailed survey, but if I did, I'd point to the lack of Avatar toys, Avatar collectibles, the largely non-existent fan community and sparse amount of fan art, the apathetic reaction to the sequels endless delays, etc. etc. Compare all of that to Star Wars, Marvel, Dr. Who, DC, Star Trek, LOTR, Harry Potter, etc. etc. I'd point out the reaction to the character design at the time of its release. I'd also bring up many personal conversations, which are of course anecdotal, and ask you how often you've heard people compliment the design of the Na'Vi.

We're both "making it up in our heads" regarding the film's legacy, but I think there's real reasons to doubt the general public's fondness for the giant naked blue cat monsters.

Know a lot of Song of the South fans, do you? See a lot of Uncle Remus merch sold in Walmart?

Of course you don't. That doesn't make Splash Mountain a failure.

 

[Ellie Thompson]

If I had to guess, I would say they are possible as early as the first week or two of April. Your best bet for catching a soft opening is to monitor this message board, as soon as someone knows something it will be posted here.

Thank you so much! i'm going april break and i'm trying my very best to catch a soft opening

 

[Ellie Thompson]

Near the entrance that is currently blocked for construction or in front of the Tree Of Life.

Thank you so mych, do you know when they will start or where the enterance is?

 

[brb1006]

Thank you so mych, do you know when they will start or where the enterance is?

Don't know but I'm just guessing

 

[truecoat]

If feel like there's three rows. The two in the pic that probably would fit 3, and then one in the back that fits 2.....

The boat has 2 rows.

 

[Daveeeeed]

I actually have the movie. LOL.

Pirated? It's the only movie I feel justified in doing so.

 

[mergatroid]

Yeah, this world looks absolutely abysmal and that picture is disappointing.

I've just cancelled my trip after that in depth review, thanks

 

[JoeCamel]

Pirated? It's the only movie I feel justified in doing so.

I have a book I feel that way about

 

[Daveeeeed]

I have a book I feel that way about
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It's insane how it's so hard to get a copy of a perfectly fine film.

 

[Daveeeeed]

No comment.


You can still buy it on line. It was and still is available in Europe.

https://www.etsy.com/listing/474772...6a3e1daaa04a&gclid=CJ_nioL03tICFUodgQodruAAMA


Looked it up on Amazon and you can buy there as well. https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B01MY3M0U6/ref=dp_olp_new_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=new

Appreciate it -- I will look into it.

But I don't understand why people are making a big deal about it. It's the only movie that I did not purchase, but have seen online. The DVD copies are also extremely old.

 

[disney4life2008]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-bz-disney-world-why-avatar-20170317-story.html

 

[Daveeeeed]

I got one off a street cart in Mexico for a couple bucks. Definitely pirated. It's not that great of a movie honestly. Doesn't really hold up. I prefer Uncle Jemima over Uncle Remus anyway

Definitely agree. It's nothing special, but the music is really good.

 

[WDWtraveler]

Photo update as of Saturday, Mar. 18. The new bus terminal shelter at Animal Kingdom will be smaller (in length) than the existing ones. Concrete pavement has already been poured in some areas behind the construction fence.

 

[Casper Gutman]

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/business/os-bz-disney-world-why-avatar-20170317-story.html

One might ask, if (as Rhode indicates here) they anticipate many (most) guests won't have much familiarity with Avatar, what is the advantage of basing the land off a media franchise at all? The logic behind synergy is that each iteration of the franchise reinforces all the others. That doesn't seem likely here, for reasons the article makes clear. To go a step further, the logic behind transmedia storytelling, the accelerated form of synergy that drives the modern entertainment industry, is that each iteration of the franchise serves as a serialized installment that advances the overall story in a unique way, thereby coercing fans to invest in every product or miss out on the story. Avatar Land is set after the planned 4 movies and was designed with little or no knowledge of what they contain, thereby making it impossible for the land to tie into those stories in a meaningful way. In fact, this was likely the primary motivation in setting the land in the distant future - it doesn't tie Cameron's hands in any way as he plans the next installments.

In short, Disney will glean the disadvantages of synergy - lack of full control of the property, tying their investment's fortunes to unproduced media (what becomes of the land if the Avatar sequels come out and are cultural laughingstocks? Or what if the mercurial Cameron decides that the last Avatar film ends with Pandora exploding?) - with none of the advantages.

If you design your franchised land with the assumption that guests don't know the franchise, why not just design a new land?

 

[twebber55]

One might ask, if (as Rhode indicates here) they anticipate many (most) guests won't have much familiarity with Avatar, what is the advantage of basing the land off a media franchise at all? The logic behind synergy is that each iteration of the franchise reinforces all the others. That doesn't seem likely here, for reasons the article makes clear. To go a step further, the logic behind transmedia storytelling, the accelerated form of synergy that drives the modern entertainment industry, is that each iteration of the franchise serves as a serialized installment that advances the overall story in a unique way, thereby coercing fans to invest in every product or miss out on the story. Avatar Land is set after the planned 4 movies and was designed with little or no knowledge of what they contain, thereby making it impossible for the land to tie into those stories in a meaningful way. In fact, this was likely the primary motivation in setting the land in the distant future - it doesn't tie Cameron's hands in any way as he plans the next installments.

In short, Disney will glean the disadvantages of synergy - lack of full control of the property, tying their investment's fortunes to unproduced media (what becomes of the land if the Avatar sequels come out and are cultural laughingstocks? Or what if the mercurial Cameron decides that the last Avatar film ends with Pandora exploding?) - with none of the advantages.

If you design your franchised land with the assumption that guests don't know the franchise, why not just design a new land?

in a sense they are
they took a loose idea and made an incredible land that will rival Mysterious Island at Disney Sea in terms of immersion