AVATAR land construction progress

matt9112

matt9112

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David2319 said:
A shame really as you'd think they would want their largest and by far most visited resort to be the best. With four parks it still somehow seems to be worse than Disneyland, Tokyo Disneyland, and comparing just MK to Disneyland Parc Paris.
I think the main issue is their treatment of Walt Disney World, as the additions to Disneyland, Hong Kong, (although not theirs) Tokyo, the new Shanghai, and to a lesser degree DLP actually have added updates to their parks.

Disneyland Parc Paris has the unique situation of the park underperforming, so they couldn't really afford to add a big headliner to the castle park this decade.

Meanwhile WDW is breaking records practically everyday yet the last major ride added to The Magic Kingdom was Splash Mountain. At Disneyland Paris, the park itself was only open for 3 months before they made the last E-ticket added to MK which was Splash Mountain and on top of that we lost 20k Leagues Under The Sea. And the only major ride update MK has received was the Haunted Mansion, but Disneyland still found a way to upgrade it. In the time MK has topped 20 million in a year's attendance (thus the guest experience going down with higher prices) Disneyland has overhauled Space Mountain, The Haunted Mansion, Peter Pan, Alice in Wonderland, Matterhorn, Big Thunder, Star Tours among others... added Indiana Jones Adventure, added a great Toontown -- may I go on?

Partly to blame for this was EuroDisneyland's unfortunate failure which caused the already underfunded 2nd, 3rd, and 4th WDW parks to cancel, shrink, or delay expansions to the second parks at Disney World which is chasing them to expand now. But today the problem for the MK is that too many people go so there's no reason to add a spectacular new attraction, even for capacity. Which is actually quite sad as we are still in a deficit of attractions from the last century for the MK.

Thankfully they are fixing the non-castle WDW parks now, but as much as I love Disney and if you have been many times, the MK is really only worth more than one visit per trip if you can go super early or late in the day, or off-season times. I mean you can't even get on Winnie the Pooh without waiting over half an hour.
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Well said. We go at rope drop and leave roughly by 2pm most days...it's insane the sheer volume of people and the wait times for non E tkcket attractions...Dumbo had a 60 minute wait yesterday. That's crazy I don't know how anyone on this site can defend the average wait times at the MK.
 
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Daveeeeed

Daveeeeed

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matt9112 said:
Well said. We go at rope drop and leave roughly by 2pm most days...it's insane the sheer volume of people and the wait times for non East attractions...Dumbo had a 60 minute wait yesterday. That's crazy I don't know how anyone on this site can defend the average wait times at the MK.
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Our minds were blown by the wait times for the terrible Epcot rides during Christmas week.
These are also confirmed as we walked by them too. We ended up riding the Universe of Energy for possibly the last time -- it was packed to capacity, but there was no wait.
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We went in Soarin's backstage overflow as the park was unimaginably busy. It was so bad Frozen had over a 300 minute wait that day. And over at the studios it was less crowded, but the headliners all had at least a 80 minute wait.
 
Scuttle

Scuttle

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matt9112 said:
as an aside since the airspace is so regulated to begin with it amazes me they cant get waivers....an attraction is never going to move so it can be marked on maps and aircraft are so heavily monitored to begin with i doubt somebody would accidentally slam into a ride...
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I think it's more for emergency situations. In an engine failure you don't really have much time to figure out where the 200 foot mountain is on the sectional chart. The lights would absolutely help in an emergency if needing to land on the service road behind Animal Kingdom (especially at night). For the life of me I'll still never know why the Orlando Eye was required to install lights. You can see the entire structure from 10+ miles away. Ironic to say the least.
 
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danlb_2000

danlb_2000

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Scuttle said:
I think it's more for emergency situations. In an engine failure you don't really have much time to figure out where the 200 foot mountain is on the sectional chart. The lights would absolutely help in an emergency if needing to land on the service road behind Animal Kingdom (especially at night). For the life of me I'll still never know why the Orlando Eye was required to install lights. You can see the entire structure from 10+ miles away. Ironic to say the least.
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Could the reason for the Eye be that the indicator night would need to operate even if the wheel (or building) lost power?
 
marni1971

marni1971

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matt9112 said:
as an aside since the airspace is so regulated to begin with it amazes me they cant get waivers....an attraction is never going to move so it can be marked on maps and aircraft are so heavily monitored to begin with i doubt somebody would accidentally slam into a ride...
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Aircraft have and do fly where they shouldn't around WDW. They cause havoc with the RoE laser safety range.
 
DinoInstitute

DinoInstitute

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WildcatDen

WildcatDen

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Magic Feather said:
Yes, always have been. I would be very shocked it this wasn't open by August, and mildly if not be July. There are one or two things that have room to "mess up", but all major things 100% necessary are working fine.
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I had recently heard softs in late May into June and an open in the June/July time frame. At first I thought this was optimistic based on Spirits most recent comments, but now, I think it is possible if not probable.
 

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