DAK AVATAR land construction progress

[Cesar R M]

Frozen Ever After is also longer because it incudes the chain lift to the second floor. If there's no change in elevation, than there's less of a need for the ride path/duration to be as long. Jungle Cruise and Living with the Land are longer, with no drops, but they include more dialogue.

Again, we'll need to see how the "story" plays out to know if four minutes is enough time to properly tell it. I agree it's short, and would prefer something longer, but we won't know for sure until it's done.

Unless it contains a preshow and a finale?

 

[Disneyhead'71]

No, but they are getting there. It seems landscaping is going to be the last holdout over the rides. There doesn't sound like there is any serious technical hurdles holding them up, they just need to finish. Or dawdle and take their time like TDO is known for.

By no means do I expect them to start pulling people and flying them in like Shanghai, which is why June seems totally reasonable. August is a head scratcher.

Brightview, the landscaping contractor is trying to be finished by the end of January.

 

[Mike S]

Frozen Ever After is also longer because it incudes the chain lift to the second floor. If there's no change in elevation, than there's less of a need for the ride path/duration to be as long. Jungle Cruise and Living with the Land are longer, with no drops, but they include more dialogue.

Again, we'll need to see how the "story" plays out to know if four minutes is enough time to properly tell it. I agree it's short, and would prefer something longer, but we won't know for sure until it's done.

Actually Frozen Ever After is longer because of the new first scene. Maelstrom was a little over 4 minutes while Frozen is like 5.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Actually Frozen Ever After is longer because of the new first scene. Maelstrom was a little over 4 minutes while Frozen is like 5.

They both had the lift. I just said Frozen, because that's what it is now.

 

[Mike S]

They both had the lift. I just said Frozen, because that's what it is now.

Oh. Carry on.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

Oh. Carry on.

Let it go. back to Avatar

 

[marni1971]

so basically just the far right area hasnt been paved yet?

That's backstage.

 

[marni1971]

He hasn't ridden it.

Neither have I.

Not in person anyway.

 

[Mike S]

Let it go. back to Avatar

Huh? I was using a comparison to a boat ride with a similar time.

 

[JenniferS]

Well, if they're getting close, they should let me try it out first because I just called it: first!

Shotgun!

 

[RSoxNo1]

Looks like potentially 48 or 54 riders per theatre. Ok, not terrible, not great.

Worse off than a three theatre Soarin', but load/unload might be significantly expedited by comparison to make up for some of the difference.

Looks like 48, 8 seats per section, 6 sections. So a 10 minute cycle time would be 1152 per hour, 7 minute cycle time would be 1632.

This was from an article I wrote a few hours before the blueprints leaked several years ago:

E-Ticket attraction: This will be a 3D simulator housed in a gigantic show building. The building will have multiple levels and guests will enter the building on level 3. The attraction will have four separate theaters with three rows of seating in each theater. Each row will load on a separate level. The nature of the simulator itself is unclear but capacity would be comparable to Soarin’ assuming an 8 minute cycle time. The attraction will be housed in a building by itself, with the exception of a portion of the C-Ticket attraction that will enter the Northeast corner of the building.

I wonder what this track in the ground is for? Any ideas? Maybe screen moves back and forth coming closer to you and then moving farther away. View attachment 181386

Good catch, I didn't notice that. That's very possible.

I think many are incorrectly assuming standard 3D here because it's what we know. I wouldn't be surprised to see a few tricks and it almost seems like we could theoretically be placed inside a multi plane camera.

 

[Magic Feather]

Well, its going to be the last thing. Isnt it? I mean, they have to install the active panels on the floor to simulate the pressure and the pandora's forest lights.

Last I saw, only certain areas will have those specific floors, but Bioluminescent plant life will be abundant.

 

[PorterRedkey]

The boat cycle time is 3.56.

about 3 minutes too short...

I think the 4 minutes will be beautiful, but if that includes load and unload it will be more like 3 minutes of actual ride time.

 

[PorterRedkey]

Let's be honest...announcing they planned to build an Avatar thememed land at AK opened the door for criticism many years ago. If the boat ride was 18 minutes long and featured 150 AAs we'd still hear plenty of gripes.

Not from me! I feel people would enjoy a 6-minute ride. Why give the people who wait an hour+ in line for the ride a little more. It is just hard to immersed in 3 and a half minutes. That is why for me SDMT is a fail. It looks pretty, but I am not going to wait an hour for such a short ride.

 

[jpinkc]

Brightview, the landscaping contractor is trying to be finished by the end of January.

Where did that landscaping quote come from??

 

[GoofGoof]

Not from me! I feel people would enjoy a 6-minute ride. Why give the people who wait an hour+ in line for the ride a little more. It is just hard to immersed in 3 and a half minutes. That is why for me SDMT is a fail. It looks pretty, but I am not going to wait an hour for such a short ride.

I think the time is over blown as an issue. Is Tower of Terror a fail? It's only 4 minutes of ride for an hour wait. That's an extreme example

 

[PorterRedkey]

I think the time is over blown as an issue. Is Tower of Terror a fail? It's only 4 minutes of ride for an hour wait. That's an extreme example

Fast attractions are not expected to be long. An 8-minute ToT would kill me! BTM is a perfect length, with 3 lift hills to break up the thrills. Slower rides with less thrills like Pirates, SSE, Haunted Mansion and a Great Movie Ride tend to be longer and more immersive.
I think that Splash mountain has the best balance of both thrills and length. 10 minutes of pure Disney magic and my personal favorite ride at WDW's MK.
On the opposite side of Splash is Kali river rapids. The queue is so detailed and beautiful, but the ride is short and strange. You go by a truck in a logging scene? Then you go down a hill and the ride is over. The raft ride at King's Island is longer and more fun. Length is definitely a factor with these rides. A 4-minute up-then-down Splash would not be the Super E-ticket it is now.

 

[GoofGoof]

Fast attractions are not expected to be long. An 8-minute ToT would kill me! BTM is a perfect length, with 3 lift hills to break up the thrills. Slower rides with less thrills like Pirates, SSE, Haunted Mansion and a Great Movie Ride tend to be longer and more immersive.
I think that Splash mountain has the best balance of both thrills and length. 12 minutes of pure Disney magic and my personal favorite ride at WDW's MK.
On the opposite side of Splash is Kali river rapids. The queue is so detailed and beautiful, but the ride is short and strange. You go by a truck in a logging scene? Then you go down a hill and the ride is over. The raft ride at King's Island is longer and more fun. Length is definitely a factor with these rides. A 4-minute up-then-down Splash would not be the Super E-ticket it is now.

I wouldn't want an 8 minute Tower either. I was referring to immersion on the ride. ToT is a fully immersive ride despite being shorter and having a thrill component. It's accomplished through a flawless combination of queue, pre-show and ride itself.

Also, you listed a bunch of mega e-ticket rides in SSE, Pirates, HM, Splash and Great Movie Ride. If the boat ride was the e-ticket and headliner for the land I could see comparing it to them, but it's not realistic to expect it to stack up to them.

I think Kali could be a better comparison to this but hopefully a little longer with less abrupt ending.

 

[EPCOTCenterLover]

As long as they succeed in attaining "excellence" instead of "good enough", I'll be happy.

 

[PorterRedkey]

I wouldn't want an 8 minute Tower either. I was referring to immersion on the ride. ToT is a fully immersive ride despite being shorter and having a thrill component. It's accomplished through a flawless combination of queue, pre-show and ride itself.

Also, you listed a bunch of mega e-ticket rides in SSE, Pirates, HM, Splash and Great Movie Ride. If the boat ride was the e-ticket and headliner for the land I could see comparing it to them, but it's not realistic to expect it to stack up to them.

I think Kali could be a better comparison to this but hopefully a little longer with less abrupt ending.

You stated that you think "time was an over blown as an issue". My post was in response to that. There was no comparison to the E-tickets and the Avatar boat ride. Not sure where you got that.?. My point was that if these E-tickets were shorter, they would not be E-tickets. Ride time does matter.
Let's look at Pirates. The WDW version of Pirates is the one I grew up with and love, but when I went to DL, it was obvious that the DL version was better and a lot of that is because it is longer and therefore more immersive. I can lose myself in the DL version. A 4-minute version of SSE would not be the same attraction. The same with the other E0tickets I mentions. Length helps the guest be more immersed and helps the Imagineers tell their stories.

Let me ask you this @GoofGoof... If you were an Imagineer and were trying to make an immersive ride... Would you a want to tell that story in 4 minutes or 8 minutes? Do you think a shorter attraction could immerse the guest better?