AVATAR land coming to Disney's Animal Kingdom

RadioHead

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SleepingMonk said:
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Wow, you folks are REALLY setting yourselves up for the heartbreak!
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Well this is 2017 we're talking about. Stuff like that is 100% possible to do now, expensive surely though.

But surely they'll find a way to include Pandoras night scape. They have to, that's half of what made Pandora so special; gazing into the sky and seeing the various star clusters, and the giant colorful moons looming above.

Without it's not the same, and I'm sure Cameron will insist this as well with the Imagineers.
 
Map7711

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Ok Got it

Again-who cares if u like the movie or not. If it is a great attraction-then all that goes bye bye. I didnt love Avatar-but I cant wait to see what they come up with. I dont have to like the inspiration to love the attraction.
 
SleepingMonk

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RadioHead said:
Well this is 2017 we're talking about. Stuff like that is 100% possible to do now, expensive surely though.

But surely they'll find a way to include Pandoras night scape. They have to, that's half of what made Pandora so special; gazing into the sky and seeing the various star clusters, and the giant colorful moons looming above.

Without it's not the same, and I'm sure Cameron will insist this as well with the Imagineers.
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Sure, just like they did with the stars projected on the roof inside Space Mountain.

Multi-trillion dollar transparent dome?

Sorry bro.
 
RadioHead

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dxer07002 said:
People can say they didn't like Avatar all they want... They are entitled to their opinions... The haters are the ones who think they are right... They are the ones trying to say because 5 people they know didn't like the movie and because they didn't like it themselves, that the movie was the worst movie ever and NO ONE liked it... I am not saying this is you, so please don't think I am lumping you into that category... You didn't like Avatar, that is fine... You are entitled to your opinion and I respect that... I'll disagree with the movie being bad, I think it is good.. But that is all subjective...

What isn't subjective however are facts.. and the facts seem to make the haters agruments wrong...

Avatar did 2.8 billion in theater business for the highest grossing movie of all time.. Want to adjust those figures, fine.. it comes in 14th... Would you say Harry Potter is extremely popular??? Sure, so would I... Where does Harry Potter rank on the total gross ADJUSTED list??? Number 67 with Sorcerer's Stone... Want to say more people saw Star Wars based on the adjusted figures?? Fine... then more people went to see Avatar than the top ADJUSTED grossing HP film...

Let's look at DVD sales for the last 5 years (2007, 2008, 2009, 2010, 2011)... In 2007, POTC: At World's End was the top selling DVD at 13.7 units... In 2008 The Dark Knight topped the list with 10.9 million units sold... In 2009 it was Twilight with 10.2 million units... in 2011, It is currently Tangled 6.2 million units... Heck Deathly Hallows Part 1 has sold 5.9 million units in 2011 to date...

Question: are all these movie popular?? Yep... Each one of them did great theater business and sold a ton of DVDs... Why do people buy DVDs?? Cause they loved the movies, right??? Let's look at 2010 shall we?? Avatar led 2010 DVD sales with 10.1 million units sold... Hmmm interesting.

The haters want to continue the spin that no one liked Avatar, that the masses the Avatar... that this is a failure by Disney to include Avatar in their parks.. yet, Avatar has done more business in theaters as the movies above (adjusted it still tops The Dark Knight, Harry potter, Twilight, Tangled, and any of the Pirates movies).. Avatar has sold more DVDs then Deathly Hallows, than Tangled, a few units less than Twilight and Dark Knight, and 3 million less than Pirates.. Yet the haters still insist no one likes Avatar...

The fact that Avatar has done 2.8 billion in box office figures (yes, 3d and IMAX have to be included in total gross) and has sold over 10 million units of the DVD/Blu Ray proves it is pretty popular... If the masses hated the movie as much as the haters here want to believe (again, not accusing you of this), Avatar would have been a 1 week wonder, died a fast and painful death in the theaters, and would have never sold 10 million DVDs... Repeat business would have never been done and the movie would be long forgotten... As for the 3D and IMAX, well, Dark Knight came out in 3D and IMAX, Deathly Hallows Part 2 did as well... so, if we want to belittle the money made by Avatar due to the higher cost of 3D and IMAX tickets, then you must be fair and do the same to Dark Knight and Deathly Hallows Part 2(a movie which didn't last number 1 in the U.S. for more than 1 week, unlike Dark Knight and Avatar)... Can't have it one way for one movie and a different way for another...

The haters just need to say they didn't like the movie and that's it.. and stop trying to make it seem like everyone hated it when proof shows otherwise...
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THIS X1,000,000,000.

Yes expressed all my feelings in one coherent post:sohappy::cry:

Your right they just don't like the film, that's all.

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Prototype82

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RadioHead said:
We also have to realize that this is coming 5-7 years from now. The technology in this land should be jaw dropping. I've thought of something, something a bit unpratical...

But I would love to see a fiberglass built dome around the Avatar land. It'll be naked to the eye. This way, during the night, they can include these type of projections upon the dome;
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Brilliant idea, but I'm not sure how that would work out. I'm sure we'll get these sorts of atmospheric views within the attraction though. Plus, I'd love to see the massive Hometree protruding from AK's lush landscape along with Everest and The Tree of Life.
I think a dome similar to Sea World's Wild Arctic might work, but at a much larger scale. I'd love for it to house an interactive queue with all sorts of neat things; plants that move or close when you touch them, touch-sensitive floors and walls with fiber-optics; you get the idea. Really push the technology.
 
RadioHead

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twinnstar said:
Que sera, sera. I am of the school that beauty does not make a film, story does. Star Wars, LOTR, Finding Nemo (Cabbage Patch dolls? lol) all had the story* to back up the beauty.


*when i say "story" I mean everything you write on the paper - characters, plot, events, environment, etc...not what you 'see' on the screen
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Without a grasping atmosphere, a story only takes you so far.
 
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twinnstar said:
Why does the number of people who went to see a movie have any bearing on if they liked it? I saw Avatar in the theater, and I hated it. So did almost everyone I know. Just cause someone paid for a movie ticket, doesn't mean they then walked out and liked the movie. I know a lot of people who won't be going to the next Avatar. Maybe we're the minority, who knows...but I wouldn't assume.
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According to Rotten Tomatoes, it received 83% positive reviews from critics and 92% positive reviews from fans. The ones that hated it are usually the most vocal, but not necessarily the majority. For me personally, it was decent - definitely entertaining and beautiful.
 
imagineer boy

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sublimesting said:
And let me throw this littlw tidbit out there:

People wanted to kill themselves because they could not live in Pandora and didn't know what they were going to do with themselves after the movie ended.

Think about that because it really opens up a whole new can of worms:

People loved this movie so much they wanted to die when it ended.
That's pretty popular if you ask me and shows that it will have a huge draw.
On the flip side, people wanted to kill themselves over a fake world that will now "exist". These people will be coming to WDW.
Folks, they may be like Brazilians....or worse. Some of these people may try to reside here.

It's the proverbial two edged sword but I think it really illustrates how big of an impact this film had and will continue to have.
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Wow, if people truly felt that way at the end of the film then they NEED TO GET A FRIGGIN LIFE!
 
twinnstar

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RadioHead said:
Without a grasping atmosphere, a story only takes you so far.
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Really? So how do you explain all those live action films that are popular?

Honestly dude, I'm done talking with you. I've politely asked you to drop it twice, and you have simply reverted to name calling, saying my posts are idiotic, yet "I'm" the hater. OK. Have fun with your Avatar love fest.
 
Thessair

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dxer07002 said:
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The haters just need to say they didn't like the movie and that's it.. and stop trying to make it seem like everyone hated it when proof shows otherwise...
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The proof of sales does not mean everyone liked it either. I contributed to the eighty-bajillion dollars Avatar made and I most certainly did not enjoy it. There are a number of people in this thread who agree with me. The door swings both ways. Just as I can't say everyone hated it, just by throwing numbers around you can't prove everyone loved it. Some people did, some people didn't.

It was a new spectacle when it was released, something folks hadn't really seen before. That level of surprise will be hard to duplicate when the sequels come out. Sure, they might be beautiful but they'll likely never be able to recreate the wonder of the first film. I do think Imagineering and the people from Cameron's side of the fence will be able to create something that transcends the films. But by the time that this area opens I imagine it will be the wonder of the theme park elements and not the film tie-in that will draw visitors in.

Avatar has made a ton of money, sure. But at this point in time it is impossible to judge its long term viability. Despite all of its potential, I still feel this is a shaky business decision in the long run. Nobody, however, supporter or detractor can say if this is going to be a success. We've seen no art and no announcements about content have been made. Heck, at this point the whole thing may end up scrapped. If the bean counters at TDO and Cameron come to an impasse on budget or the like, Avatar-land could become Hyperion Wharf 2.0.
 
Buried20KLeague

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RadioHead said:
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Seriously joking about crap like that isn't funny. It's a serious issue, and your making a joke out of it. What, next your going to joke about Diabetes, and cancer?
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A couple fringe lunatics that are dilusional enough to not be able to separate the movies from reality isn't a serious problem... It's a statistical probability when you're dealing with likely close to a billion people seeing it.

It's probable those folks had a laundry list of issues before they watched the movie. I doubt they were rational before walking into the theatre.

It happens.
 
GLaDOS

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It truly is amazing to see the COMPLETE role reversal going on in these threads across the internet from years ago on Disney sites when Uni announced Potter.

Same exact conversations, just replace Avatar with Harry Potter, and switch people's stances along the Disney/Universal line.

Hilarious. Both should prepare their meals of crow.
 
SleepingMonk

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Buried20KLeague said:
A couple fringe lunatics that are dilusional enough to not be able to separate the movies from reality isn't a serious problem... It's a statistical probability when you're dealing with likely close to a billion people seeing it.

It's probable those folks had a laundry list of issues before they watched the movie. I doubt they were rational before walking into the theatre.

It happens.
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Future Darwin Award winners.

These things happen.
 

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