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etc98 said:
I drew up a rough site plan based on the concept art of how this could fit into the Hollywood Backlot and transportation center. The boat ride building is roughly the same size as Shanghai Pirates. I think whoever the other poster was who mentioned that it looks like they are reusing Stage 12 is correct, so I kept that as the land's restaurant.

I wasn't sure whether they would keep two entrances to the land, one between Philharmagic and Schmoozies, and one next to Hyperion Theater, but if they only keep the entrance by the Hyperion, that gives them a much larger expansion pad for a hypothetical second ride taking over that space + Philharmagic. But that's probably too optimistic, and the second entrance will remain as well.

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Mice Chat speculates the same; using the original eastern gateway plan as a guide.


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Architectural Guinea Pig

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etc98 said:
I drew up a rough site plan based on the concept art of how this could fit into the Hollywood Backlot and transportation center. The boat ride building is roughly the same size as Shanghai Pirates. I think whoever the other poster was who mentioned that it looks like they are reusing Stage 12 is correct, so I kept that as the land's restaurant.

I wasn't sure whether they would keep two entrances to the land, one between Philharmagic and Schmoozies, and one next to Hyperion Theater, but if they only keep the entrance by the Hyperion, that gives them a much larger expansion pad for a hypothetical second ride taking over that space + Philharmagic. But that's probably too optimistic, and the second entrance will remain as well.

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Very well done. Now if they use their door coaster layout for the second ride and make it avatar themed, DCA will automatically enter my top 5 Disney parks list.
 
BrianLo

BrianLo

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etc98 said:
I drew up a rough site plan based on the concept art of how this could fit into the Hollywood Backlot and transportation center. The boat ride building is roughly the same size as Shanghai Pirates. I think whoever the other poster was who mentioned that it looks like they are reusing Stage 12 is correct, so I kept that as the land's restaurant.

I wasn't sure whether they would keep two entrances to the land, one between Philharmagic and Schmoozies, and one next to Hyperion Theater, but if they only keep the entrance by the Hyperion, that gives them a much larger expansion pad for a hypothetical second ride taking over that space + Philharmagic. But that's probably too optimistic, and the second entrance will remain as well.

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Excellent job, you've nailed it.
 
disneylandcm

disneylandcm

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My suspicion is that most of the west side of the resort will become more attraction and theme park oriented and the Toy Story parking lot will become more hotel and convention focused. They could easily remove all the older convention facilities from the Disneyland Hotel in favor of new and improved ones in the Toy Story lot.
 
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Ripken10

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TimeDuck said:
Aren't they still well below half the number of hotel rooms they've been allotted to develop?
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I know a chart has been posted a few times on here that showed quite a different story then that. Also remarks that this number was not changing with the DisneyForward project. I think this info was in the DisneyForward thread.
 
Disney Irish

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disneylandcm said:
My suspicion is that most of the west side of the resort will become more attraction and theme park oriented and the Toy Story parking lot will become more hotel and convention focused. They could easily remove all the older convention facilities from the Disneyland Hotel in favor of new and improved ones in the Toy Story lot.
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I'd be in favor of that, even mentioned it in the DLForward thread long ago, but as I understand with the DVCs it hard to move that inventory to another hotel.
 
Disney Irish

Disney Irish

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TimeDuck said:
Doesn't this reflect exactly what I claimed? That they've developed less than half of their alotted hotel rooms?
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Except your claim is that they would use DLForward for mostly hotels, which is what the other poster was really countering, the numbers themselves don't matter in that context. So even if they have always been permitted to double room capacity, they committed that a majority of the DLForward plan, especially the first 10 years where a minimum of $1.9B will be spent, is for expansion for actual attractions.

Basically I don't anticipate them building out a new hotel until they are ready to build on Toy Story lot.
 
CosmicDuck

CosmicDuck

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Disney Irish said:
Except your claim is that they would use DLForward for mostly hotels, which is what the other poster was really countering, the numbers themselves don't matter in that context. So even if they have always been permitted to double room capacity, they committed that a majority of the DLForward plan, especially the first 10 years where a minimum of $1.9B will be spent, is for expansion for actual attractions.

Basically I don't anticipate them building out a new hotel until they are ready to build on Toy Story lot.
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I was mostly being facetious with that remark but if we're discussing semantics, they absolutely did not commit a majority of the $1.9B to "actual attractions"

Here's the quote directly from their site "The DisneylandForward development agreement, requires Disney to invest a minimum of $1.9 billion in theme parks and lodging within 10 years of project approval."

Much like the zoning approval, its meant to be generic enough to allow them to build whatever they want, they don't want to commit to anything. They could in theory entirely spend that $1.9 billion on the already developed land in either park without ever touching the DLForward areas.

Do I think they'll use all that undeveloped land for hotels? Of course not. But could they? Yes, they probably could spend a bunch of that space on hotels if they wanted to. The only thing stopping them is the room allotment by the city. Hell, they could make the largest one story hotel of all time.

And regardless, I can assure you they absolutely have a plot earmarked out for at least one new hotel on that land.
 
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mlayton144

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TimeDuck said:
I was mostly being facetious with that remark but if we're discussing semantics, they absolutely did not commit a majority of the $1.9B to "actual attractions"

Here's the quote directly from their site "The DisneylandForward development agreement, requires Disney to invest a minimum of $1.9 billion in theme parks and lodging within 10 years of project approval."

Much like the zoning approval, its meant to be generic enough to allow them to build whatever they want, they don't want to commit to anything. They could in theory entirely spend that $1.9 billion on the already developed land in either park without ever touching the DLForward areas.

Do I think they'll use all that undeveloped land for hotels? Of course not. But could they? Yes, they probably could spend a bunch of that space on hotels if they wanted to. The only thing stopping them is the room allotment by the city. Hell, they could make the largest one story hotel of all time.

And regardless, I can assure you they absolutely have a plot earmarked out for at least one new hotel on that land.
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Plus, I believe that Anaheim would prefer the hotels since they get additional taxes from that. I could be wrong
 
Phroobar

Phroobar

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MoonRakerSCM said:
I NEVER KNEW Cameron was involved with that! Huh!

Y'all ain't lived until you've watched the glory that is Battle Beyond the Stars...

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I'd prefer a easter egg to this over his CA home...
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He was the model making at the time on it. It was his first movie. He met his wife on it. It's a much better and cheaper movie that Rebel Moon. Same story but without the stupid slow-mo.
 

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