Aunt Polly's is open?

[jakeman]

I personally do not want any more dinning establishments at the MK. There is already enough noise in the place! Now more dining establishments I could get behind.

Ha! I looked at that and said to myself, "I need to fix that" and then didn't.

 

[Tobe]

Ha! I looked at that and said to myself, "I need to fix that" and then didn't.

It's all good. I just couldn't resist giving you a hard time!

 

[lobelia]

True. I can get by eating Mickey bars all day if the restaurants are busy.

 

[elchippo]

Aside from restoring the MS Cinema back to a cinema, this was top on my list of "minor" fixes needed in MK! Aunt Polly's was a big part of the TSI experience when we were kids.

 

[Chicagoshannon2]

Except in your analogy, Disney also owns the hot dog cart across the street.


This is kind of my point. Even if you're not a "captive audience" within the Magic Kingdom (as most guests are), you're a captive audience within Walt Disney World. The percentage of guests who would actually leave property to get lunch because the waits at any of the QSRs are too long is paper thin.

I disagree with this. There are still far more people that stay offsite at Disney than on site. Because of this when they leave the park they hit up restaurants on the way back to their resorts. They might grab a snack at a cart, spending $20 for their party, at 11am. They will then stay til after the parade and then have a late lunch/early dinner off site.

 

[jakeman]

I disagree with this. There are still far more people that stay offsite at Disney than on site. Because of this when they leave the park they hit up restaurants on the way back to their resorts. They might grab a snack at a cart, spending $20 for their party, at 11am. They will then stay til after the parade and then have a late lunch/early dinner off site.

Where is the data that backs this scenario up as a significant occurrence? Not saying that either side is right, but we just don't have definitive data to draw a conclusion either way.

I think we can all point to the mad house that the QSRs are at lunch and understand that Disney is leaving money on the table by not having more options available, but I don't think we can definitively say it's because X scenario is happening nor can we say how much money they are overlooking.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

I disagree with this. There are still far more people that stay offsite at Disney than on site. Because of this when they leave the park they hit up restaurants on the way back to their resorts. They might grab a snack at a cart, spending $20 for their party, at 11am. They will then stay til after the parade and then have a late lunch/early dinner off site.

I'd wager that 98% of those people are making that decision for financial reasons rather than "the lines at the restaurants are too long." I never said "people don't leave the parks and eat elsewhere." I said "people don't leave the parks and eat elsewhere on account of the busyness of park restaurants." And even then, I was making a general statement that obviously has numerous exceptions.

Separately, what human adult person can survive in Orlando with a $5 cart snack at 11am and then no other food until after MSEP?

 

[ford91exploder]

I personally do not want any more dinning establishments at the MK. There is already enough noise in the place! Now more dining establishments I could get behind.

 

[ford91exploder]

I disagree with this. There are still far more people that stay offsite at Disney than on site. Because of this when they leave the park they hit up restaurants on the way back to their resorts. They might grab a snack at a cart, spending $20 for their party, at 11am. They will then stay til after the parade and then have a late lunch/early dinner off site.

Yes exactly and WDW is not capturing these dollars because of their myopic focus on 'cost control', I WANT WDW to make Apple like profits so it will be there for my grandchildren. Now the offsite guest is spending a few bucks on snacks to 'hold them over' till they can get food instead of spending 10-20 bucks pp on QS

If WDW had made it convenient for them to buy a QS meal and sit for a few minutes most of them WOULD have, As others have noted there are some who bring in food for financial reasons but these are a small subset of guests.

Was there over the holidays at a GV with DBIL and his family after the first couple of days they stopped doing QS and brought in uncrustables because the wait was too painful with 4 small boys, Money was not an issue keeping kids in line during a 20-30 minute wait for QS was.

MK needs enough QS to keep lines at 5-10 minutes maximum during peak traffic, No sane person is suggesting that all QS needs to be open all day but it ALL does need to be open during peak times.

Many of the now closed eateries were open when the park capacity was 50,000 now that the MK has increased it's capacity by 50% to 75,000 or so some FB analyst says MK needs LESS food service capacity????

 

[ford91exploder]

I'd wager that 98% of those people are making that decision for financial reasons rather than "the lines at the restaurants are too long." I never said "people don't leave the parks and eat elsewhere." I said "people don't leave the parks and eat elsewhere on account of the busyness of park restaurants." And even then, I was making a general statement that obviously has numerous exceptions.

Separately, what human adult person can survive in Orlando with a $5 cart snack at 11am and then no other food until after MSEP?

Those with FP reservations and the choice is food or one of your 3 rides... There are a lot of growling tummies at WDW these days because of that, Back in the paper FP days before return times were enforced you could EAT and do your FP, Now it's a binary choice one or the other and the ride usually wins.

 

[asianway]

Yes exactly and WDW is not capturing these dollars because of their myopic focus on 'cost control', I WANT WDW to make Apple like profits so it will be there for my grandchildren. Now the offsite guest is spending a few bucks on snacks to 'hold them over' till they can get food instead of spending 10-20 bucks pp on QS

If WDW had made it convenient for them to buy a QS meal and sit for a few minutes most of them WOULD have, As others have noted there are some who bring in food for financial reasons but these are a small subset of guests.

Was there over the holidays at a GV with DBIL and his family after the first couple of days they stopped doing QS and brought in uncrustables because the wait was too painful with 4 small boys, Money was not an issue keeping kids in line during a 20-30 minute wait for QS was.

MK needs enough QS to keep lines at 5-10 minutes maximum during peak traffic, No sane person is suggesting that all QS needs to be open all day but it ALL does need to be open during peak times.

Many of the now closed eateries were open when the park capacity was 50,000 now that the MK has increased it's capacity by 50% to 75,000 or so some FB analyst says MK needs LESS food service capacity????

TDL has a Pecos/Cosmic size QS in every land - all open daily and yet QOH gets overwhelmed regularly and all are packed at peak times. Yet another reason MK being #1 on the attendance list is fiction

 

[ford91exploder]

TDL has a Pecos/Cosmic size QS in every land - all open daily and yet QOH gets overwhelmed regularly and all are packed at peak times. Yet another reason MK being #1 on the attendance list is fiction

Sounds like more capacity is needed there as well because the demand certainly exists.

 

[asianway]

Sounds like more capacity is needed there as well because the demand certainly exists.

It looks like Tomorrland Terrace(cosmics here) is being expanded and annexed to Fantasyland plus whatever they build in the backstage/Small World plot

 

[jakeman]

Those with FP reservations and the choice is food or one of your 3 rides... There are a lot of growling tummies at WDW these days because of that, Back in the paper FP days before return times were enforced you could EAT and do your FP, Now it's a binary choice one or the other and the ride usually wins.

Wait...what?

I've never missed a meal at WDW because of FP+...

 

[msteel]

I'd wager that 98% of those people are making that decision for financial reasons rather than "the lines at the restaurants are too long."

That is the reason we eat offsite or bring in a picnic.

Separately, what human adult person can survive in Orlando with a $5 cart snack at 11am and then no other food until after MSEP?

I think this story took place at Disneyland, not Orlando - but I think that difference is inconsequential. I am aware of a financially strapped family that was given park tickets but could not afford the in-park food prices. Despite the ban on outside food they managed to bring in some granola bars when they arrived at rope drop. By parade time the granola bars were long gone and the parents purchased a package of peanut brittle from the main street candy shop and all 6 of them shared it during the parade. I believe that was all they ate until they arrived back at their vehicle after park closing.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

That is the reason we eat offsite or bring in a picnic.

I think this story took place at Disneyland, not Orlando - but I think that difference is inconsequential. I am aware of a financially strapped family that was given park tickets but could not afford the in-park food prices. Despite the ban on outside food they managed to bring in some granola bars when they arrived at rope drop. By parade time the granola bars were long gone and the parents purchased a package of peanut brittle from the main street candy shop and all 6 of them shared it during the parade. I believe that was all they ate until they arrived back at their vehicle after park closing.

There's no ban on outside food.

 

[sshindel]

That is the reason we eat offsite or bring in a picnic.

Quoted to second this. I do not care about the lines at the QS restaurants. Standing in line for these has never impacted my decision on bringing outside food in. The prices of the food at the QS restaurants has without question. I've stayed offsite before and decided to take a late afternoon snack until leaving the park, to grab some food off-site as well, and once again, it was price driving that, not wait time.

I can't imagine the thought process that would make me say:
"I don't want to stand in that line for food, it's 30 minutes long! I'll walk to the front of the park, take the monorail, take the tram to my car, drive off premises, and then get food. That'll be quicker for sure!"

 

[jakeman]

Quoted to second this. I do not care about the lines at the QS restaurants. Standing in line for these has never impacted my decision on bringing outside food in. The prices of the food at the QS restaurants has without question. I've stayed offsite before and decided to take a late afternoon snack until leaving the park, to grab some food off-site as well, and once again, it was price driving that, not wait time.

I can't imagine the thought process that would make me say:
"I don't want to stand in that line for food, it's 30 minutes long! I'll walk to the front of the park, take the monorail, take the tram to my car, drive off premises, and then get food. That'll be quicker for sure!"

Wait...you don't just park at the GF DVC?

 

[sshindel]

Wait...you don't just park at the GF DVC?

I typically try and park at the All Star resorts and take a bus. I like to try and make my enjoyment of the magical bubble that is the clean, shimmering, well-themed Disney Bus Lines last as long as I can.

 

[Skippy]

I can't imagine the thought process that would make me say:
"I don't want to stand in that line for food, it's 30 minutes long! I'll walk to the front of the park, take the monorail, take the tram to my car, drive off premises, and then get food. That'll be quicker for sure!"

I believe the point was regarding guests already planning to leave the park. Why not grab something on the way home/back at their offsite hotel, therefore saving 30 minutes in their busy day. Not leaving for the sole purpose of lunch.

I would imagine it is a double whammy though - Long lines + high cost = outside food.