Ariel's Adventure (Little Mermaid E Ticket) CONFIRMED!

sponono88

sponono88

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Lee said:
I'm not clear on which version of the Mermaid facade DCA is getting.
One of these two.....:shrug:
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I'm not 100% sure but I think it will be the one on the left, it is the same art that was displayed at the Blue Sky Cellar. The second one is a much earlier concept. There's actually a third concept that has only been shown in videos so far, it is a computer model of the building and it looks a lot like the first picture. The proposed Mermaid Grotto area should be to the left of the building.
 
EPCOT Explorer

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sponono88 said:
I'm not 100% sure but I think it will be the one on the left, it is the same art that was displayed at the Blue Sky Cellar. The second one is a much earlier concept. There's actually a third concept that has only been shown in videos so far, it is a computer model of the building and it looks a lot like the first picture. The proposed Mermaid Grotto area should be to the left of the building.
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Way to contradict. :lol: :p


I thought that it was the other way around, time wise?
 
aladdin2007

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Kuhio said:
As someone pointed out in the thread about the new D23 article, the working name of the attraction is now "Under the Sea: Journey of the Little Mermaid." I'm fine with the "Under the Sea" part, but I'm not sure why they chose something for the second part of the name that's so similar to "Voyage of the Little Mermaid," and which also smacks of "Journey into Narnia."

Couldn't it have been "Under the Sea: Ariel's Adventure"? Or do they think guests won't understand that the attraction features a physical transition without a word like "voyage" or "journey" in the name?
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Some feel that voyage or journey is needed as something a little different, adventure is so common and overused and added onto everything it seems like, not as much with journey or voyage. I would have liked to have seen voyage used, but I guess they dont plan on changing that at DHS.
 
DisneyParksFan1

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I think DCA should get the second facade... Less ugly... But oh well, I'm a WDW'er so no need to worry! I'll be getting this!

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Beautiful ain't it?
 
AEfx

AEfx

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It's going to be an omnimover, so I highly doubt they will mess with FP. I know they did at the Mansion, but that's because of the Bottleneck, er, Streching room mostly. ;)

Let's hope this one has no dang pre-shows. That doesn't mean I don't want a wonderfully immersive queue experience, but we just don't need a "herd into this room, doors close, watch a little movie, doors open" sort of thing. Those attached to Omnimovers just defeat the purpose, since the whole point is that they should be continuously loading.
 
EPCOT Explorer

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AEfx said:
It's going to be an omnimover, so I highly doubt they will mess with FP. I know they did at the Mansion, but that's because of the Bottleneck, er, Streching room mostly. ;)

Let's hope this one has no dang pre-shows. That doesn't mean I don't want a wonderfully immersive queue experience, but we just don't need a "herd into this room, doors close, watch a little movie, doors open" sort of thing. Those attached to Omnimovers just defeat the purpose, since the whole point is that they should be continuously loading.
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I actually think prehows help in that situation. The line moves and fills up at the same rate of movement, there's no one getting to the end of the line. As soon as they exit, they start down the Omni queue. It worked perfectly for HM/Stretching Room and for TLS with it's Sea Cabs and Hydrolators.
 
AEfx

AEfx

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EPCOT Explorer said:
I actually think prehows help in that situation. The line moves and fills up at the same rate of movement, there's no one getting to the end of the line. As soon as they exit, they start down the Omni queue. It worked perfectly for HM/Stretching Room and for TLS with it's Sea Cabs and Hydrolators.
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In practice, though, it really doesn't work.

How many times have you walked into HM and seen 0 people in line to board the attraction when you just waited in line outside?

If everyone was just streaming in, and there is no artificial stop/start, they get the optimum ride capacity. That's what an Omnimover was originally designed for. The streching room at Disneyland was simply born of neccesity, not creative design (they had to move people), and the one at WDW was simply because of the cultural signifigance of the DL version.

Putting any barrier between the queue entrance and an Omnimover just gunks up the process, no matter which way you look at it.
 
EPCOT Explorer

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AEfx said:
In practice, though, it really doesn't work.

How many times have you walked into HM and seen 0 people in line to board the attraction when you just waited in line outside?

If everyone was just streaming in, and there is no artificial stop/start, they get the optimum ride capacity. That's what an Omnimover was originally designed for. The streching room at Disneyland was simply born of neccesity, not creative design (they had to move people), and the one at WDW was simply because of the cultural signifigance of the DL version.

Putting any barrier between the queue entrance and an Omnimover just gunks up the process, no matter which way you look at it.
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I'll be honest, I've always seen a small amount. Only time there was a back up was when the ride 101'ed right before we got on.


In December- a MVMCP night, there were less people and it worked flawlessly. Walked out of the Stretching Room, and right on. In August- a TON of people, and walked on, albeit a bit slower. The system works. :shrug: :lol:


When have you seen it fail? No impudence, just want to know.
 
AEfx

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EPCOT Explorer said:
I'll be honest, I've always seen a small amount. Only time there was a back up was when the ride 101'ed right before we got on.


In December- a MVMCP night, there were less people and it worked flawlessly. Walked out of the Stretching Room, and right on. In August- a TON of people, and walked on, albeit a bit slower. The system works. :shrug: :lol:


When have you seen it fail? No impudence, just want to know.
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It's not that it "fails" but that it's just not as efficent as the system is designed to be. I have totally waited in line outside before, been admitted in, seen the pre-show, then entered a totally empty lobby - quite often when only one room is running.

I wouldn't change anything about HM as it's a classic and what's done is done, but the truth is, the streching rooms do get in the way of ride capacity, or in the timeliness of getting on the ride. Putting anything between you and the continuous loading puts a kink in the continuous loading part unless conditions are very specific (the right flow of guests, both rooms operating, etc.). Often, in practice, you end up with an empty room, when people could have just been loading in sequentially.

So for this new attraction, I just hope they rely on the queue and no "preshows" so we can get the maximum ride capacity out of it the omnimover. That doesn't mean they can't blow our minds with the queue, just that I hope once I walk in I don't get artifically stopped by a big door so I have to watch a presentation.
 
AEfx

AEfx

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SirGoofy said:
That's the way it's supposed to be.:shrug:
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Not if you want to maximize ride capacity.

Omnimovers are meant to be continuously loading. If the final part of the queue is empty, and there are still people waiting outside, you've just defeated much of the purpose the Omnimover was designed for.
 
SirGoofy

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AEfx said:
Not if you want to maximize ride capacity.

Omnimovers are meant to be continuously loading. If the final part of the queue is empty, and there are still people waiting outside, you've just defeated much of the purpose the Omnimover was designed for.
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Show>Efficiency

It's never about the ride system, it's about the best way to convey the story. I'd rather have a great preshow and less capacity than no preshow.
 
EPCOT Explorer

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AEfx said:
It's not that it "fails" but that it's just not as efficent as the system is designed to be. I have totally waited in line outside before, been admitted in, seen the pre-show, then entered a totally empty lobby - quite often when only one room is running.

I wouldn't change anything about HM as it's a classic and what's done is done, but the truth is, the streching rooms do get in the way of ride capacity, or in the timeliness of getting on the ride. Putting anything between you and the continuous loading puts a kink in the continuous loading part unless conditions are very specific (the right flow of guests, both rooms operating, etc.). Often, in practice, you end up with an empty room, when people could have just been loading in sequentially.

So for this new attraction, I just hope they rely on the queue and no "preshows" so we can get the maximum ride capacity out of it the omnimover. That doesn't mean they can't blow our minds with the queue, just that I hope once I walk in I don't get artifically stopped by a big door so I have to watch a presentation.
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As you said...Theory/Practice. I think HM is fine. :lol:
 

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