Ariel's Adventure (Little Mermaid E Ticket) CONFIRMED!

Studios Fan

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dreamscometrue said:
So, I never went to WDW years ago when they had the ticket books with the A, B, C, D, E tickets, but I do understand that we still sometimes refer to rides today using these designations. I get that ToT and EE are 'E' ticket attractions and I've read many of you refer to TSM as a good 'D' ticket attraction.

My question is: Why is Ariel's Adventure referred to as an 'E' ticket on here? It seems as though it might be a pumped up version of 'The Seas with Nemo and Friends'. What exactly makes a ride an 'E' as opposed to a 'D'?
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According to some on here, Ariel will be a D. I think it is going to be a lot better than Nemo though and should be a lot more immersive than TSMM.
 
jt04

jt04

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Studios Fan said:
According to some on here, Ariel will be a D. I think it is going to be a lot better than Nemo though and should be a lot more immersive than TSMM.
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According to others on here it is going to be an e ticket. And that is the people I listen to. :lookaroun:lol:
 
jt04

jt04

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0ogabooha said:
I'm sorry, but why are E-tickets so great nowadays when you don't even receive the booklets anymore? Does that mean a better quality ride?
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Yes it generally describes the quality and cost of a ride. It's just used as terminology now for "talking shop". It's shorthand or slang essentially to make discussions easier. There are no specific rules and is used generally to describe an attraction and is somewhat subjective.

No need to take it too literally.
 
Wilt Dasney

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dreamscometrue said:
What exactly makes a ride an 'E' as opposed to a 'D'?
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Nothing! :)

Seriously, it's entirely subjective and was so even in the days when A-E Tickets were actually used. Some rides would see their ticket designations change over time.

It's easy enough to say that Cinderella's Carousel is an A and Splash Mountain is an E, but defining what makes a B, C, or D between those extremes is largely in the eye of the beholder.
 
unkadug

unkadug

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aladdin2007 said:
Im guessing that in terms of scale and size, Mermaid will be on par with the Haunted Mansion?
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I wouldn't get your hopes too high. Budgets have yet to be cut....and they will be!

It's better to set your hopes lower and possibly be pleasantly surprised than to set them too high and be completely disappointed.
 
jt04

jt04

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unkadug said:
I wouldn't get your hopes too high. Budgets have yet to be cut....and they will be!

It's better to set your hopes lower and possibly be pleasantly surprised than to set them too high and be completely disappointed.
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Your thinking of the old way of WDW doing business. The FLE is not subject to TDO's financial quackery as it has been in the past. LM is a clone and largely set in stone at this point.

As examples, see ST2 and Pixar Place. I do believe Lutz that someone at TDO tried to cut the ST2 budget but that the idea was crushed within minutes. And the person suggesting it probably did themselves no favors.

Pixar Place is up to par by anyone's standards. But due to budgets they are building in phases rather than gutting the budget of what you see installed today. In the old days they would have gone with faux brickwork and minimal queue theming. Certainly Mr Potatohead and Luxo would not have survived. But that was the old way. Not the future.

As was done with Pixar Place, the FLE will take place in stages. And what they will do will be done right or it will be moved to a later phase. For example, the possibility of a new tea cups canopy.

Anyone who lobbys to do otherwise probably won't be doing their careers any favors. If it isn't worth doing right, it isn't worth doing at all.

IMO.
 
SeaCastle

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jt04 said:
Agreed. Which is an e ticket by anyone's definition.
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Even people inside Imagineering are calling Mermaid a D-ticket. I'm more apt to believe their word until I can see it for myself. An E-ticket is more like Indiana Jones: Temple of the Forbidden Eye, Splash Mountain, Pirates/Mansion. Mermaid, from what he hear, is a dark ride more akin to Peter Pan's Flight or Winnie-the-Pooh, just longer, and those are certainly not E-tickets.

Your thinking of the old way of WDW doing business. The FLE is not subject to TDO's financial quackery as it has been in the past. LM is a clone and largely set in stone at this point.

As examples, see ST2 and Pixar Place. I do believe Lutz that someone at TDO tried to cut the ST2 budget but that the idea was crushed within minutes. And the person suggesting it probably did themselves no favors.

Pixar Place is up to par by anyone's standards. But due to budgets they are building in phases rather than gutting the budget of what you see installed today. In the old days they would have gone with faux brickwork and minimal queue theming. Certainly Mr Potatohead and Luxo would not have survived. But that was the old way. Not the future.

As was done with Pixar Place, the FLE will take place in stages. And what they will do will be done right or it will be moved to a later phase. For example, the possibility of a new tea cups canopy.

Anyone who lobbys to do otherwise probably won't be doing their careers any favors. If it isn't worth doing right, it isn't worth doing at all.

IMO.
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Insiders are telling us that the FLE has already been cut multiple times.

Pixar Place and Star Tours both have synergy and star power in common. Who would go against someone in such a stature as George Lucas himself to slash ST2's budget? Pixar Place is a breeding ground for synergy. John Lassetter himself is probably backing it, and as we can see he usually gets what he wants these days (i.e. the DCA Parade route). In the projects you cited, there were external factors that saved them.

I don't believe the way TDO does business has changed; they have still yet to add an E-ticket to the Magic Kingdom in over eighteen years. They've been making cuts and letting show quality slip since the '80s. A few great things have happened between then and now, but the goal has remained: make investors happy.
 
jt04

jt04

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SeaCastle said:
Even people inside Imagineering are calling Mermaid a D-ticket. I'm more apt to believe their word until I can see it for myself. An E-ticket is more like Indiana Jones: Temple of the Forbidden Eye, Splash Mountain, Pirates/Mansion. Mermaid, from what he hear, is a dark ride more akin to Peter Pan's Flight or Winnie-the-Pooh, just longer, and those are certainly not E-tickets.
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I'm afraid that the "people inside Imagineering are calling Mermaid a D-ticket" meme is an unfounded rumor. If it is true that someone said that I think it is highly probable it was from a part of Imagineering that is watching this project from the outside looking in.

Of course if someone can provide actual quotes from a named Imagineer who is actually working on the project then I will be proven wrong.:lookaroun
 
SeaCastle

SeaCastle

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jt04 said:
I'm afraid that the "people inside Imagineering are calling Mermaid a D-ticket" meme is an unfounded rumor. If it is true that someone said that I think it is highly probable it was from a part of Imagineering that is watching this project from the outside looking in.

Of course if someone can provide actual quotes from a named Imagineer who is actually working on the project then I will be proven wrong.:lookaroun
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Martin and Lee, who have sources working on the project, have said this...making this far from a "unfounded rumor".
 
dreamscometrue

dreamscometrue

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jt04 said:
Your thinking of the old way of WDW doing business. The FLE is not subject to TDO's financial quackery as it has been in the past. LM is a clone and largely set in stone at this point.

As examples, see ST2 and Pixar Place. I do believe Lutz that someone at TDO tried to cut the ST2 budget but that the idea was crushed within minutes. And the person suggesting it probably did themselves no favors.

Pixar Place is up to par by anyone's standards. But due to budgets they are building in phases rather than gutting the budget of what you see installed today. In the old days they would have gone with faux brickwork and minimal queue theming. Certainly Mr Potatohead and Luxo would not have survived. But that was the old way. Not the future.

As was done with Pixar Place, the FLE will take place in stages. And what they will do will be done right or it will be moved to a later phase. For example, the possibility of a new tea cups canopy.

Anyone who lobbys to do otherwise probably won't be doing their careers any favors. If it isn't worth doing right, it isn't worth doing at all.

IMO.
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This is a great post IMHO. I also believe that things are continuing to move in the right direction. I think that we're going to see several great things happen in the next decade.
 
_Scar

_Scar

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Anything that has Under the Sea and Kiss the Girl with Sebastian sining is an E-ticket to me.


(;

All the art and models I've seen look pretty E to me. Very "e".
 

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