Saw the new, original show last week. The pre-show was a definite improvement. The show itself, eh. I found it pretty weak. At least New Management had a story to it. I couldn't understand the majority of words they were singing in this show.
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Are you happy about the Tiki Room?
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Buried20KLeague
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I haven't seen it at WDW since they changed it back, but I've seen it numerous times over our past handful of trips to DL, and we really like the show there.
I'm looking forward to seeing the original back at WDW, but I'm worried about the missing Enchanted Fountain. It really gives you something to watch and focus on at DL.
I've said this a bunch, too... But if they got the tiki torches working again on the building, attendance would be MUCH higer. It would draw people. Plus it just looks great having lit torches in Adventureland.
sweetpee_1993
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Yep, love it. I sang along (quietly) and was totally into it from beginning to end. I was amazed at how many other people were in the show and how many were also singing along. Total love. Took me back to my childhood. If I closed my eyes I could see my Grampa's silly smile again, his knee bouncing as his toe taps away. So much better than that grating Iago voice. How fitting that the 'New Management' went up in smoke. Lol!
I don't expect those who only ever knew the 'New Management' to appreciate the Tiki Room as it is now. Read a little history with Walt and the Tiki Room's big brother out in California. It doesn't need the drama twist of the 'New Management' storyline to be amazing. Much like CoP, it's something to embrace in the glory of what it's significance is. Go in, sit down, watch the show, and imagine the amazing accomplishment it was. And forever will be. To overrun it with screeching characters was just wrong.
I don't expect those who only ever knew the 'New Management' to appreciate the Tiki Room as it is now. Read a little history with Walt and the Tiki Room's big brother out in California. It doesn't need the drama twist of the 'New Management' storyline to be amazing. Much like CoP, it's something to embrace in the glory of what it's significance is. Go in, sit down, watch the show, and imagine the amazing accomplishment it was. And forever will be. To overrun it with screeching characters was just wrong.
Not particularly. I do like the old show better than New Management but it will only be a matter of time before the routines gets tired and is again playing to 1/4 full theaters. There is no real reason to see it on every trip especially if you are in WDW more than once a year.
sweetpee_1993
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I think the show will suffer as time goes by (if not already) from the animatronics not being spot-on. I'm sure there will be those that say there's so much going on during the show that it won't be a big deal if something is off. But, I'm of the thinking that the show rests on the precision of its elements to carry it. Whatever isn't spot-on will stick out like a sore thumb. Sorta like the CoP. The outlook for these types of attractions being at WDW isn't very promising. They're too high-maintenance.
forevermickey
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I really didn't like New Management, I'm glad they brought back the "more" original version.... I do wish they would have put the water fountain back in.. I am sure it had to do with some mechanical reason... I loved it but just felt like it was missing a little piece
disney fan 13
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In my opinion it is way better then under new management version. So I would say I am happy with this version...
roadtripper
Member
If the idea is to keep re-installing 30 year old attractions that no longer have any significance to a young target audience, then by all means, continue. If you're looking to draw the kind of crowds that HP is getting at Uni, you need to go in a forward direction, not backwards in time. The new one is completely boring. The corny 60's/70's jokes and referneces are not understood by most people anymore. The lack of any kind of drama in the room leaves me wanting a whole lot more. At least I knew who Iago was and could associate that with a Disney movie, that's marketing.
M.T. LOTT
Member
I tend to agree/disagree with roadtripper , i never had a problem with updating some of the classic rides. It is needed to pull the younger audience in. It keeps alive memories
of the original but allows the ride/park to move forward. It beats the alternative. That being said I am not sure Disney wants to pull in the Uni crowd, yes Disney wants that money but the last thing any of us would want is for the park to take on the Uni/Busch feeling.
of the original but allows the ride/park to move forward. It beats the alternative. That being said I am not sure Disney wants to pull in the Uni crowd, yes Disney wants that money but the last thing any of us would want is for the park to take on the Uni/Busch feeling.
wdwfan4ver
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I think you are missing the point in this case. The Enchanted Tiki Room Under new Management was considered worse than the original Tiki Room by the majority. Disney did also bad a job of updating the attraction like did to Journey to Imagination with Journey into YOUR Imagination. A lot of people didn't that change either and that change only lasted just over 2 years. I brought up Imagination because of the time period the attractions were changed.
You mentioned Iago, but the catch is Gilbert Gottfried's voice is considered to be annoying by a lot of people is one of the things that was factored in why a lot of people didn't like The Enchanted Tiki Room Under new Management. I am saying that because the voice of Iago was annoying to a lot of people that saw Under New Management.
wdwfan4ver
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Under new Management wasn't exactly well received. The only other option was The Enchanted Tiki Room: Stitch Presents Aloha e Komo Mai! replacing Under New Management after the fire happened.
Updating attractions is great, but the catch is how good the update is or the change. Star Tours: The Adventure Continues is a great update, but Tiki Room and Imagination weren't. The change with Imagination was so bad that it that it closed 2 years before getting another replacement. The imagination change and the Tiki Room change happened at a time that Eisner was losing his Disney theme park touch with the quality of Imagineers was starting to go down by 1997.
I support changes to an attractions because of they do get outdated like what is happening with the final scene of Carousal of Progress with two people wearing Virtual Reality helmets is something for the 21st century. Virtual Reality was a bust and hasn't considered something of the future since the late 1990's at least. The thing is I don't support an update if it is poorly done.
Updating attractions is great, but the catch is how good the update is or the change. Star Tours: The Adventure Continues is a great update, but Tiki Room and Imagination weren't. The change with Imagination was so bad that it that it closed 2 years before getting another replacement. The imagination change and the Tiki Room change happened at a time that Eisner was losing his Disney theme park touch with the quality of Imagineers was starting to go down by 1997.
I support changes to an attractions because of they do get outdated like what is happening with the final scene of Carousal of Progress with two people wearing Virtual Reality helmets is something for the 21st century. Virtual Reality was a bust and hasn't considered something of the future since the late 1990's at least. The thing is I don't support an update if it is poorly done.
Buried20KLeague
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Oh, how I wish this would have happened. The show in Tokyo is really cute, IMHO.
It also would have killed two birds with one stone (ha)... It would have closed SGE!
vcstr
Active Member
I haven't seen the new show yet, will in a short couple months!
I don't mind the idea of bringing the show back to its roots but for my generation, our childhood memories are of New Management. It's the show I saw on my first few trips and it's soundtrack is the one my grandpa always played in the car with my sister and I.
We have fond memories of that show and whether it was objectively good or not I will miss that.
I don't mind the idea of bringing the show back to its roots but for my generation, our childhood memories are of New Management. It's the show I saw on my first few trips and it's soundtrack is the one my grandpa always played in the car with my sister and I.
We have fond memories of that show and whether it was objectively good or not I will miss that.
Clever Name
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It is a total bore. New Management was better. It's a shame that WDW has to offer this as entertainment. It's just another example of the lack of creativity at WDW. :wave:
Rasvar
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My only issue is that I think they cut it a bit much from the original. It seems to clunk on flow at the cuts but also having seen the original in DL recently, that only makes it more noticeable. I understand why they cut it. It seems like crowds have much shorter attention spans now. So a lot of the slowest parts got the cuts.
Donaldfan3000
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Yes I like the original so much better!
Animaniac93-98
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I like this "new" version much better than UNM. Even after defeating Iago they never sang the whole theme song, and the rest of the score was hard to sit through.
The Empress Lilly
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I'm most pleased to have the original back. I rather enjoyed my Tiki room during my last stay.
What I miss are:
- that fountain inside
- torches outside
- a tiki atmosphere outside, that is lush tropical Pacific island, not cartoon desert. :brick:
Just like in Fantasyland, move that spinner and give us plants and walkways! Restore thematic unity, placemaking, live entertainment, seating space. Let me enjoy my dole whips and tropical drinks in a tropical atmophere!
What I miss are:
- that fountain inside
- torches outside
- a tiki atmosphere outside, that is lush tropical Pacific island, not cartoon desert. :brick:
Just like in Fantasyland, move that spinner and give us plants and walkways! Restore thematic unity, placemaking, live entertainment, seating space. Let me enjoy my dole whips and tropical drinks in a tropical atmophere!
The Duck
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I was able to see the new/old show twice during my last visit and I must say that I enjoyed it very much. During the run of UNM, I didn't find myself hating the show as much as many people did but it did make me miss the original. Of course, I wouldn't have minded a new show (as long as it was a better show) but since WDI had to put it back together as quickly as possible, I'm grateful with the results.