Any news on The Tiki Room?

[MichWolv]

Ugh really? Do we need an interactive queue in Tiki Room? The original 2 minute preshow isn't enough to keep people entertained? I really get a kick out of Disney's priorities, instead of fixing things like half the effects on Dionsaur they have to make sure every queue in WDW is a touch screen. Oh well, as long as they build it like HM where I can choose to not take part in the interactive queue, that's fine with me.

Just back from Disneyland, and I think the comparison with the Tiki waiting area there is interesting. Entertainment in that queue area includes little speeches from each of the Tiki gods represented in the area. Not a show, per se, but about 6 minutes or so of talking gods with some rudimentary sound and visual (shaking statues) effects. That (along with getting a Dole Whip from the shorter side of the line) is the good part of the pre-show. Those could easily be duplicated and/or plussed at MK if the talking birds pre-show is considered insufficient. Interactive stuff in a waiting area is, I think, harder to do than in a line that moves.

The bad part of the Disneyland waiting area...a pineapple commercial. That's right...a 4-5 minutes Dole commercial still runs. If that happened at MK, we'd say "Stupid TDO. You'd never see anything like that in Anaheim".

Oh, and for those wondering about crowds levels at the show -- it was a busy day at Disneyland (Space Mountain 60 minute wait, Roger Rabbit 55, PPF 50), and the Tiki Room was half full mid-afternoon. So it does not constantly play to full houses.

 

[jakeman]

Oh, and for those wondering about crowds levels at the show -- it was a busy day at Disneyland (Space Mountain 60 minute wait, Roger Rabbit 55, PPF 50), and the Tiki Room was half full mid-afternoon. So it does not constantly play to full houses.

I'm sure you will have some disagreement there, completed with several pictures and bolded text eventually. :lookaroun

The knee jerk negative reaction to anything interactive really discredits any real quality issues noticed by the fan base that may eventually crop up.

It will be interesting to see how this pans out.

 

[juniorthomas]

I don't get the hating on the new queues either. I think maybe it's because ANY change in the basics of classic attractions has people running for cover. We love it just the way it is......blah blah blah.

I haven't seen any of them in person yet, but I'm looking forward to my next trip. These enhancements seem, to me anyway, to be money well spent. I am all for improving current attractions. Even the classic ones. I remember a long story about waiting in line being the number one irritation among the general audience at WDW. It seems like they are addressing a core need.

Of course, maybe when I see them in person I will hate them. But I don't think so.

Yeah, I don't get it either. Sure it may be sad to see an old ride theme/story go, but that doesn't mean I'll hate the new one. I remember liking Horizons (last time I went on it I was 5), but I like Mission: Space too.

If its a fun attraction, I'll enjoy it. That's all there is to it.

 

[Fractal514]

I guess for me, it's the aversion to the so-called interactivity. This may seem odd to say, but I think the interactive queues may be too interesting. A good queue or pre-show experience should subtly prepare you for what lies ahead. The interactive queues are more to distract you from the wait. It's like having a theater show begin with a musical overture, versus having a comedian come out and do jokes. It breaks the mood somehow.

So I'm all for heavily-themed queues, but I'm not sold on the interactivity. At Pooh, it's probably fine, because there wasn't much of themed queue before, but I would really be disappointed to see interactive doo-dads at, say, Pirates.

You do realize that many forms of entertainment DO begin with a warm-up comedian? Also some shows don't have an overture and just jump right in, like Fiddler on the Roof. Furthermore, some overture are just too long and boring, and kinda suck the energy out of a room before the show starts.

All that being said, I guess sometimes, Haters gotta Hate.

 

[NMBC1993]

While the line may stop and go more, the stand-by wait time for Space Mountain is in no way affected by the interactive games.

Except when the park opens first thing in the morning and there is no actual "line" and once guests get to the games they all say at once "Oh look, bright colors" and the line just stops with the way ahead completely empty and it is impossible to get around them all without everyone giving you an angry look. The only two problems I have with these interactive queues is I feel that all of the money that should go into keeping the attractions up to date is just being pumped into these queues that serve the same purpose an Iphone game does. The other problem being that as I already stated, if there is no wait, there becomes one because people just have to stop and touch everything, they did fix that with HM but then the question becomes if there is now two lines, did we really need the 2nd queue in the first place? The thing that I find funny about all this is if WDW is installing all these queues because our culture can't wait for ANYTHING anymore, why isn't DL installing them too? To me it just seems like a waste of money that could be used on other projects.

 

[Slowjack]

You do realize that many forms of entertainment DO begin with a warm-up comedian? Also some shows don't have an overture and just jump right in, like Fiddler on the Roof. Furthermore, some overture are just too long and boring, and kinda suck the energy out of a room before the show starts.

All that being said, I guess sometimes, Haters gotta Hate.

Uh, yeah, I realize that, why would I have mentioned a warm-up comedian if I didn't know they existed? I'm pointing out that some things that may be good individually don't always go well together.

Also, I'm not a "hater." Another poster asked why people dislike interactive queues, and I offered my opinion.

 

[Mouse Wizard]

The thing that I find funny about all this is if WDW is installing all these queues because our culture can't wait for ANYTHING anymore, why isn't DL installing them too? To me it just seems like a waste of money that could be used on other projects.

My two cents on this is: Disneyland doesn't have the space for these interactive queues in most areas. The whole Fantasyland area could fit them without removing a ride or something. And with so much construction going on they may not want to add more, or want to spend the money on more upkeep projects.

 

[NMBC1993]

My two cents on this is: Disneyland doesn't have the space for these interactive queues in most areas. The whole Fantasyland area could fit them without removing a ride or something. And with so much construction going on they may not want to add more, or want to spend the money on more upkeep projects.

I see where you are coming from but my problem with that is while the DLR is currently undergoing construction the construction is in DCA and not DL. Meanwhile over at MK there is construction going on AND they find the money to build these queues all the while BTMR still has black tarps in the third lift. It just seems like they're priorities are a bit off when it comes to spending money on the parks.

 

[juniorthomas]

My two cents on this is: Disneyland doesn't have the space for these interactive queues in most areas. The whole Fantasyland area could fit them without removing a ride or something. And with so much construction going on they may not want to add more, or want to spend the money on more upkeep projects.

Agreed. Fully.

 

[MichWolv]

My two cents on this is: Disneyland doesn't have the space for these interactive queues in most areas. The whole Fantasyland area could fit them without removing a ride or something. And with so much construction going on they may not want to add more, or want to spend the money on more upkeep projects.

This is an intersting issue. I just came back from Disneyland and they need interactive queues just as much as WDW. Indeed, the boringness of DLR's queues is one of its big drawbacks to me. Consider"

Toy Story Mania -- DCA has the big potato approximately 2 seconds into the line, and then unthemed outdoor switchbacks with a dozen posters or so to look at. DHS has wonderful props with endless things to look at, and a big potato that you can actually watch for a while.

Space Mountain -- MK has a long hallway of holographs and games, followed by an indoor set of switchbacks in a semi-themed area. DL has an outdoor second story roped line followed by a series of semi-themed hallways. DL's loading area is nicer, but the first half of the line is brutal.

Pooh -- MK has a wonderfully themed line. DL has...nothing.

PoTC -- MK has long corridors themed as a fort. DL has a long corridor themed as a line alongside the end of the ride.

California Screamin/RnRC/Everest -- The CS line is unthemed with nothing to see. Both RnRC and Everest (closest comparables at WDW) have intricately themed lines with lots to look at, although the RnRC interesting stuff in only the last 10 minutes or so of the queue.

My willingess to wait in a stand-by line is greatly affected by these kinds of differences. I think DLR will look to add to its lines in the near future. Space may prevent it, but I'd guess they'll find a way to incorporate some of what works at WDW.

 

[juniorthomas]

This is an intersting issue. I just came back from Disneyland and they need interactive queues just as much as WDW. Indeed, the boringness of DLR's queues is one of its big drawbacks to me. Consider"

Toy Story Mania -- DCA has the big potato approximately 2 seconds into the line, and then unthemed outdoor switchbacks with a dozen posters or so to look at. DHS has wonderful props with endless things to look at, and a big potato that you can actually watch for a while.

Space Mountain -- MK has a long hallway of holographs and games, followed by an indoor set of switchbacks in a semi-themed area. DL has an outdoor second story roped line followed by a series of semi-themed hallways. DL's loading area is nicer, but the first half of the line is brutal.

Pooh -- MK has a wonderfully themed line. DL has...nothing.

PoTC -- MK has long corridors themed as a fort. DL has a long corridor themed as a line alongside the end of the ride.

California Screamin/RnRC/Everest -- The CS line is unthemed with nothing to see. Both RnRC and Everest (closest comparables at WDW) have intricately themed lines with lots to look at, although the RnRC interesting stuff in only the last 10 minutes or so of the queue.

My willingess to wait in a stand-by line is greatly affected by these kinds of differences. I think DLR will look to add to its lines in the near future. Space may prevent it, but I'd guess they'll find a way to incorporate some of what works at WDW.

Truth. The more things you can do in a line (especially one as long as TSM), the more likely you are to subject yourself to said line.

 

[puntagordabob]

So do any of the insiders have a hint of when Disney would likely announce the return of the Tropical Serenade??

Does Oct 1 opening seem like a possibility since it is pushed so close to that date now anyways..would be kind of a cool marketing play as that date approaches.

 

[flavious27]

You do realize that many forms of entertainment DO begin with a warm-up comedian? Also some shows don't have an overture and just jump right in, like Fiddler on the Roof. Furthermore, some overture are just too long and boring, and kinda suck the energy out of a room before the show starts.

All that being said, I guess sometimes, Haters gotta Hate.

 

[disnyfan89]

I had the opportunity to drive by the Tiki Gods that are sitting outside behind MK. I can say with about 90% confidence that these tiki gods have nothing to do with changes being made to Enchanted Tiki Room. They are sitting outside the special event and holiday services warehouses, meaning, they are used for decorations for convention and special events. If a convention wanted a tiki theme or Disney wanted to spice up their press event with some tiki gods they would call up the decorating team and they would provide them with prebuilt set pieces and decorations instead of constantly fabricating new ones. These tiki gods probably have been pulled for an event that has or is just about to happen.

So do any of the insiders have a hint of when Disney would likely announce the return of the Tropical Serenade??

A little birdy told me we can possibly expect to hear something at Destination D but don't necessarily expect it to be the Tropical Serenade you've known in the past. Don't forget to come prepared with your grain of salt. :wave:

 

[Krack]

A little birdy told me we can possibly expect to hear something at Destination D but don't necessarily expect it to be the Tropical Serenade you've known in the past.

*headdesk*

They are going to screw this up.

 

[NoChesterHester]

*headdesk*

They are going to screw this up.

Hopefully this update has some staying power. I hope...

 

[jakeman]

*headdesk*

They are going to screw this up.

Given that in some people's opinion a return to only the original Tiki Room will suffice, then yes, they will screw it up.

Not sure what people expect when they draw conclusions and build expectations with no official acknowledgment from the company.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I know this is blasphemous, but the original Tiki Room is a nostalgia show for me, and if I see it once every 5 years that's more than enough. Admittedly, Under New Management made it worse... much much worse.

I'd like to see the full "Tiki Tiki Tiki Tiki Room" song return, after that I'd like to see something new and exciting. I understand that this is at best a C-Ticket attraction so my expectations can't be too high, but if it's something that brings me in the doors more than twice a decade I'd consider it a success.

 

[puntagordabob]

A little birdy told me we can possibly expect to hear something at Destination D but don't necessarily expect it to be the Tropical Serenade you've known in the past. Don't forget to come prepared with your grain of salt. :wave:

Why does this line tend to make me a little fearful of "UNM: The Adventure Continues...." ????

 

[baymenxpac]

I know this is blasphemous, but the original Tiki Room is a nostalgia show for me, and if I see it once every 5 years that's more than enough. Admittedly, Under New Management made it worse... much much worse.

I'd like to see the full "Tiki Tiki Tiki Tiki Room" song return, after that I'd like to see something new and exciting. I understand that this is at best a C-Ticket attraction so my expectations can't be too high, but if it's something that brings me in the doors more than twice a decade I'd consider it a success.

100% agree with this. my affection for tropical serenade is steeped with nostalgia. under new management may not have been the best update to go ahead with, but some kind of update was needed, in my opinion of course.

i'll be interested to see what they do here. hopefully something WDW-goers can be proud of.