plutofan15
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So $400/person/day including flights, food, parks and hotel is actually not a bad deal at all.
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the_rich
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That's what I thought.
It's a great deal If you had the experience that he had.
I did not. My experiences kept getting worse and worse each trip.
Simple as that.Mickey5150
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I've had trips where there have been some issues, might be rooms, might be rides, might be the price. It's easy to look past the issues when they are small or few in number, but when everything that happens is bad it just ruins the experience. I'm sorry you had to deal with all that and I knock on wood hope I don't have that same experience in a month.
Chi84
Premium Member
I think you have to acknowledge that people can have widely different experiences.
We've been visiting the parks two (sometimes three) times a year for a whole lot of years so I believe I have a good frame of reference. Our experience recently is that rides are down more often than in the past. On our most recent trip, FOP was down nearly the entire day, ToT was down a significant amount of time and a few others (MMRR and KS) were down just a short time. I'm not including Rise, which is pretty much a train wreck when it comes to operating on schedule.
On the other hand, some of our best trips to WDW were from 2017 to 2019. We did notice somewhat of a decline in upkeep the parks, but not enough to impact our stay in any way. We thought the counter service offerings were plentiful and varied and food portions were excellent. I don't remember when Mobile Order started but we found this a significant improvement. Food service in general has declined significantly over the past three trips, but that may be due to product and labor shortages that are happening everywhere right now. I don't believe Disney is immune from those.
Until COVID hit, we had excellent experiences in the resorts. We're DVC so we mostly stayed at SSR and Kidani, although we also stayed at CBR and POFQ at times. The grounds and rooms were in very good condition. Recent visits have shown a significant decline in housekeeping. I don't mind the lack of daily service, but the rooms were not properly cleaned prior to our arrival. CBR was especially bad, with hair on the bathroom floor, a broken dresser drawer, some type of sticky substance on the shelves and a gross brown stain clearly visible on a wall. I cleaned the room with Lysol wipes before we unpacked.
We mentioned the broken drawer and the stain on the wall to a CM at the front desk when leaving the resort. The CM just happened to be the head housekeeper, who apologized and asked a few more questions. When we received our final bill, we found that we were credited one night's stay - we didn't ask for it or expect it, but that's the kind of guest recovery that has kept us coming back all these years.
All in all, both good and bad.
We've been visiting the parks two (sometimes three) times a year for a whole lot of years so I believe I have a good frame of reference. Our experience recently is that rides are down more often than in the past. On our most recent trip, FOP was down nearly the entire day, ToT was down a significant amount of time and a few others (MMRR and KS) were down just a short time. I'm not including Rise, which is pretty much a train wreck when it comes to operating on schedule.
On the other hand, some of our best trips to WDW were from 2017 to 2019. We did notice somewhat of a decline in upkeep the parks, but not enough to impact our stay in any way. We thought the counter service offerings were plentiful and varied and food portions were excellent. I don't remember when Mobile Order started but we found this a significant improvement. Food service in general has declined significantly over the past three trips, but that may be due to product and labor shortages that are happening everywhere right now. I don't believe Disney is immune from those.
Until COVID hit, we had excellent experiences in the resorts. We're DVC so we mostly stayed at SSR and Kidani, although we also stayed at CBR and POFQ at times. The grounds and rooms were in very good condition. Recent visits have shown a significant decline in housekeeping. I don't mind the lack of daily service, but the rooms were not properly cleaned prior to our arrival. CBR was especially bad, with hair on the bathroom floor, a broken dresser drawer, some type of sticky substance on the shelves and a gross brown stain clearly visible on a wall. I cleaned the room with Lysol wipes before we unpacked.
We mentioned the broken drawer and the stain on the wall to a CM at the front desk when leaving the resort. The CM just happened to be the head housekeeper, who apologized and asked a few more questions. When we received our final bill, we found that we were credited one night's stay - we didn't ask for it or expect it, but that's the kind of guest recovery that has kept us coming back all these years.
All in all, both good and bad.
ladybat2
Member
I know we are all unhappy right now with the way our whole world is going. But the bottom line is that every single hotel and eating establishment and entertainment business on earth is suffering and barely able to keep themselves afloat because of what that horrible pandemic did! Its not something that is just going to fix itself over night. Its going to take years to recover from it and on top of it there is a huge supply and demand problem that are the result of other problems, many of them political and foreign affairs related, that compound this bad situation to make it even harder to over come. Heck there is even a huge automobile shortage. I know we don't like to think about it but contrary to how we have always liked to believe about our Disney resorts and parks they are not really magic. They exist in the real world and have real world problems like every other business. These problems are not tiny ones. They are huge. Even for Disney. Its just that it hurts more when we see it effect Disney because Disney was really the only place in the US to go where we could actually forget about the real world and believe in magic for a little while. The real world and its problems managed to get inside the magic mouse. We either have to wait it out and hope he overcomes it or Micky will finally just end up calling it a day. I hope for all our sakes it not the latter.
plutofan15
Well-Known Member
It's a great deal If you had the experience that he had.
I did not. My experiences kept getting worse and worse each trip.
At the risk of sounding rude, don’t go back if your trip was so miserable. Simple as that.
If you allow small things to snowball, then you will have a bad time. We had to alter our plans a few times but never let it affect our trip. Adapt, change, overcome. Our room was not in the location we requested and was a longer walk to the main area but not “atrocious”. Turned out that even though the location was not ideal, the view of the pond was great and we enjoyed watching the wildlife. We never got to ride Seven Dwarfs Mine Train whether it was due long lines or closed due to weather. A little disappointed but certainly did not affect the trip. I appreciate that your trip did meet your expectations, everybody’s expectations are different.
That's a good theory, but I don't believe many of the issues are only a result of the pandemic. Most of the issues involve taking money from consumers.
At the risk of sounding rude, I already said I wouldn't.
plutofan15
Well-Known Member
Not rude at all.At the risk of sounding rude, I already said I wouldn't.
OMG!! I love this. My thoughts exactly. This one just hurts us all, Disney is our escape from reality, our Disney Bubble, our happy place. It means something different to everyone. We all have stories of what a trip to Disney has pulled us out of in our lives. We are left feeling "what now"? Where do we go now? I would love to go Disneyland Paris, my wallet tells me to a trip WDW is a big NO on a regular bases, my wallet laughed in my face about the thought of Paris
. But thank you for you post!!!The best deal are the cast members, family , friends that can enjoy the perks of employment - entry into the parks when applicable.
ladybat2
Member
I guess there is only one way to test that point of view out then. Stop going and see if it changes anything. But unless enough people are willing to do that we have no choice but to pay more, get less, and wait to see if in time the sacrifices pay off and our Disney is returned to us in the glory it once was.
That's my plan.
MagicRat
Well-Known Member
If you are already preoccupied with the expense of the item you are purchasing or the experience you are about to partake in, you are going guarantee yourself a less than an ideal time. It’s that simple. You are ruining your experience and establishing biases before you even set foot into the “bubble”.
I also do not understand why anyone would make a plan to go somewhere that they believe to be deficient. You are just setting yourself up for failure.
This isn’t work or surgery, you don’t have to do it.
I also do not understand why anyone would make a plan to go somewhere that they believe to be deficient. You are just setting yourself up for failure.
This isn’t work or surgery, you don’t have to do it.
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I actually have an answer to your curiosity.
I have loved my entire childhood, teenage years, and college life with an insanely unhealthy need to visit the Disney parks as much I can. I suffer from severe depression... I have lost just about everything in my childhood. So the last thing I had left from my childhood was Disney World. I've been over 100 times since I was a baby. (I'm not over exaggerating that either) I am 24 years old now and I have never gone a year without visits ng at least twice. Including this year. When I was little, my father would take me every other weekend, back when annual passes were much more affordable.
So why did I go, knowing I probably wouldn't have the best time? To say goodbye.
No other reason. The worst part about the trip was not knowing it was going to be as bad as it ended up being, though.. and that's what really hurt me. Disney, it's theme parks, and it's history has always been like 3/4ths of my personality. And now I'm 3/4ths empty. Call me dramatic, but it is what it is.
To that, I raise my middle finger to the arches of Disney World and say... "There will not be a see ya real soon, any time soon."
You don’t have to stop going to try to change anything. That’s actually kind of silly. You stop going because you feel like a schmuck for continuing to go. Because there isn’t enough value for what you paid. Because you feel worse going than not going.
If enough people do the same and it leads to change, then all the better.
JoeCamel
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It's called growing and in your 40s you will try to recapture the feeling you had as a child. They get another bite of youI actually have an answer to your curiosity.
I have loved my entire childhood, teenage years, and college life with an insanely unhealthy need to visit the Disney parks as much I can. I suffer from severe depression... I have lost just about everything in my childhood. So the last thing I had left from my childhood was Disney World. I've been over 100 times since I was a baby. (I'm not over exaggerating that either) I am 24 years old now and I have never gone a year without visits ng at least twice. Including this year. When I was little, my father would take me every other weekend, back when annual passes were much more affordable.
So why did I go, knowing I probably wouldn't have the best time? To say goodbye.
Disney, it's theme parks, and it's history has always been like 3/4ths of my personality. And now I'm 3/4ths empty. Call me dramatic, but it is what it is.
To that, I raise my middle finger to the arches of Disney World and say... "There will not be a see ya real soon, any time soon."
eliza61nyc
Well-Known Member
Two weeks until my trip, can't wait. It's a short trip (for me). Staying at the Beach club, I'll let you know how it goes. I'm super excited.
WOOOO!