Piebald
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They don't lol
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Piebald
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Disney security is probably in a bad spot for a situation like this.
That being said I do remember one instance where a woman parked her ecv right in front of another woman before a parade and made her angry. The woman then took a disposable camera and began bashing her head with it repeatedly. Security appeared out of nowhere. I mean it literally looked like they appeared out of a portal and disappeared into one as well. It was amazing.
For a brawl like this? That's a big nope for most people. You can try to hold someone back, but what if they just strike you? It's tough because the CMs aren't paid enough for it and I'd imagine unless something horrible was happening most people would be like
That being said I do remember one instance where a woman parked her ecv right in front of another woman before a parade and made her angry. The woman then took a disposable camera and began bashing her head with it repeatedly. Security appeared out of nowhere. I mean it literally looked like they appeared out of a portal and disappeared into one as well. It was amazing.
For a brawl like this? That's a big nope for most people. You can try to hold someone back, but what if they just strike you? It's tough because the CMs aren't paid enough for it and I'd imagine unless something horrible was happening most people would be like
some other guy
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Disney World brawl: Fists fly in video taken of fight at Magic Kingdom, witness tells FOX 35
Another brawl reportedly broke out at Walt Disney World Resort this week, the second altercation reported at the Florida attraction in recent weeks.
Disney World brawl: Fists fly in video taken of fight at Magic Kingdo…
archived 21 Jul 2022 16:34:49 UTC
Brawl breaks out in Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom on Wednesday [VIDEO]
A brawl broke out inside Walt Disney World this week, as two families took turns exchanging blows in front of Peter Pan's Flight. Video of...
Brawl breaks out in Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom on Wednesday [V…
archived 21 Jul 2022 16:39:21 UTC
not much local coverage of it so far
Ayla
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It wasn't line-cutting.
Smiley/OCD
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I really don’t want to start this argument again, but I’ve seen groups with their “Drinking around the World” shirts so sloshed and belligerent that if they were on my scooter, they would’ve been pulled over for DWI…of course not every group is like that and there are plenty of happy drunks, but itMostly folks who are too weak to hold their booze. I’ve had drinks from all 11 pavilions before and never felt the need to throw down in a theme park
only takes one group or worse, one person who smuggles in a gun to put Disney right up there with the rest of the incidents we now see on a daily basis…that’s why when we go to Disney, we stay out of Epcot on the weekends
Disney Glimpses
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They absolutely can detain people. At least when it comes to theft. Not sure about this situation though.
gerarar
Premium Member
This isn't just unique to MK/DL.
I was at DLP on Bastille Day last week. You know how at MK, CMs would form pathways and keep them clear with their glow sticks? That's pretty nonexistent there (at least on that night). Usually there are ways to cross Main Street at the end of the street before the hub, but there was nothing. Even the pathways next to the buildings were not kept clear at all.
People were just crossing at will, pushing/shoving, a free-for-all. Parents were literally carrying strollers above guests heads just to cross the sea of people. People were also literally sitting/standing on top of trash cans, never told to get off for safety.
Anyways, I was positioned at the end of MS for the fireworks. About a dozen feet away from me, this family was trying to cross. I guess they did some pushing while trying to get through and this upset someone. The one guy shouted so loudly at said family to not touch him or his wife (in English btw). They went back and forth and it escalated to some pushing. This went on for over 5 mins, and not one CM/security intervened. Tbh, I couldn't even spot a single CM in the crowds of people while waiting for/watching the fireworks. I felt bad for the children there because they were just there...barely able to stand...crying..
They were eventually pulled apart by some bystanders and they went there separate ways after more shouting. I often wonder if that escalated even more, people (and kids) could've gotten hurt, and there was no way help could have arrived soon due to how mismanaged the crowds were. Security never showed up either.
I didn't get to record any videos, but I was trying to spot a CM to get help. But me being 5'4 (everyone is so tall!) and literally being squished in all directions, I was practically useless.
Crowd control really needs to be improved over there at DLP at night, because what I witnessed was far different (and unsafe) than how MK does their crowd control during fireworks. At least there are designated pathways with CM's always keeping them clear before and during showtime.
I was at DLP on Bastille Day last week. You know how at MK, CMs would form pathways and keep them clear with their glow sticks? That's pretty nonexistent there (at least on that night). Usually there are ways to cross Main Street at the end of the street before the hub, but there was nothing. Even the pathways next to the buildings were not kept clear at all.
People were just crossing at will, pushing/shoving, a free-for-all. Parents were literally carrying strollers above guests heads just to cross the sea of people. People were also literally sitting/standing on top of trash cans, never told to get off for safety.
Anyways, I was positioned at the end of MS for the fireworks. About a dozen feet away from me, this family was trying to cross. I guess they did some pushing while trying to get through and this upset someone. The one guy shouted so loudly at said family to not touch him or his wife (in English btw). They went back and forth and it escalated to some pushing. This went on for over 5 mins, and not one CM/security intervened. Tbh, I couldn't even spot a single CM in the crowds of people while waiting for/watching the fireworks. I felt bad for the children there because they were just there...barely able to stand...crying..
They were eventually pulled apart by some bystanders and they went there separate ways after more shouting. I often wonder if that escalated even more, people (and kids) could've gotten hurt, and there was no way help could have arrived soon due to how mismanaged the crowds were. Security never showed up either.
I didn't get to record any videos, but I was trying to spot a CM to get help. But me being 5'4 (everyone is so tall!) and literally being squished in all directions, I was practically useless.
Crowd control really needs to be improved over there at DLP at night, because what I witnessed was far different (and unsafe) than how MK does their crowd control during fireworks. At least there are designated pathways with CM's always keeping them clear before and during showtime.
Tony the Tigger
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I’m hearing some were arrested and others banned.
mightynine
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Maybe Disney could add an AR lens to the My Disney Experience app that overlays real-time odds during one of these fights and an easy link to place your bets thanks to a Draftkings Sportsbook activation! Draftkings - the official betting partner of Disney Parks fisticuffs!
Don't forget my commission, Chappie!
Don't forget my commission, Chappie!
Kamikaze
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Nope. They can ask you to 'come with us' etc but they cannot put their hands on anyone or force anyone to stay in an office or elsewhere. If they bring you somewhere, you are free to leave at any time.
Kamikaze
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The same way they do at Walmart or anywhere. Ask the people to follow them and bring them to a room while the police are on their way and arrive.
DisneyfanMA
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Is this another part of Chapek's failed legacy? For the prices they charge they obviously can't keep out the trash, but could they at least afford security? Shocking how that went on and on and not a security guard in site. I'd be furious if I was a guest and witnessed this, especially with children.
Years ago if that occurred I'd have expected them to be swarmed and escorted out with a lifetime ban. Also years ago it didn't happen because society wasn't quite the cesspool it has devolved into.
Years ago if that occurred I'd have expected them to be swarmed and escorted out with a lifetime ban. Also years ago it didn't happen because society wasn't quite the cesspool it has devolved into.
Coaster Lover
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- In the Parks
- No
I have nothing against this movie at all, I just had to laugh at the irony of your post and this post by Disney on Twitter today... the timing couldn't have been more perfect!
Californian Elitist
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I heard a few “monkey” hurls in that video.
The racism jumped out.
With that said, all of them should be banned from all Disney parks, not just WDW.
The racism jumped out.
With that said, all of them should be banned from all Disney parks, not just WDW.
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ppete1975
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Ive never worked for Disney. But i assume there are guidelines. A huge brawl where nobody is really getting hurt.. just make sure the other guests are safe. IF someone is going to die or is being hurt without fighting back might be look at differently than a mutual combatants situation. Also you have different security, you have cast members, and you have security.. if security is nearby they will usually break up anything. Cast members could prob be fired, but someone being attacked might still jump in depending on the person. I do wonder if security numbers have been cut with the other budget cuts. And that is something they would never announce due to lawsuit implications.Disney security is probably in a bad spot for a situation like this.
That being said I do remember one instance where a woman parked her ecv right in front of another woman before a parade and made her angry. The woman then took a disposable camera and began bashing her head with it repeatedly. Security appeared out of nowhere. I mean it literally looked like they appeared out of a portal and disappeared into one as well. It was amazing.
For a brawl like this? That's a big nope for most people. You can try to hold someone back, but what if they just strike you? It's tough because the CMs aren't paid enough for it and I'd imagine unless something horrible was happening most people would be like
ppete1975
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I thought i heard that too, but i wasnt sure if i did or not. And wasnt sure if it was the crowds or the people in the fight.. kind of how the N word is used
ppete1975
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Even in Epcot. If that person is severely injured due to their situation, or injures someone else, thats a lawsuit on Disney. How about if people are in a car accident later, the lawyers will go after disney for over serving. Regardless, even though most of us on here are adults, this is a kids playground.. yes even world showcase. Alcohol is fine but there should never be a point where someone is drunk, vomiting, or even staggering. I am all for alcohol being served, but the servers have to be trained to look for signs and cut people off, if people become belligerent have them nicely escorted out. If an employee overserves for a tip or they want to be the fun employee, they should be fired. I also think in areas where alcohol is served (drinking around the world especially) they should double the security looking for drunkenness, at what you pay for that drink clearly disney can afford to pay a few.
And I dont mean mall cops or even uniformed police, i mean plain clothed so that it doesnt ruin the appearance of the parks by looking like a militant state.
ppete1975
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It takes an errant punch, someone stepping back on a stroller, someone thrown on top of a kid or something thrown at the crowd, for one of these to get really bad. Its only a matter of time before a kid (or baby) gets seriously injured, a older person breaking a hip, or an innocent family injured for this to get alot of unwanted attention and pr for disney.
I will say most of these fights ive seen video of the crowd is at least keeping their distance. Although if you look closely in that video you can see strollers, not sure it it was near stroller parking or not.
