News Annual Passholder dining discount drops to 10% for 2018

[DisneyOutsider]

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it was nice to actually feel like you were wanted somewhere as a local.

It's not that Disney doesn't want you... They just don't need you.

See World, on the other hand.....

 

[disneygeek90]

It's not that Disney doesn't want you... They just don't need you.

See World, on the other hand.....

Sea World is desperate for anyone to show up.

 

[RustySpork]

Sea World is desperate for anyone to show up.

You're right, but they were really good to passholders long before all of the drama.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It's not that Disney doesn't want you... They just don't need you.

See World, on the other hand.....

True...now...but the myth that's there's an unlimited supply of first time visiotors that want to drop $10,000 a week and can still actually grow attendance is about as believable as jack and the beanstalk...and that's the premise they have been operating on.

 

[disneygeek90]

True...now...but the myth that's there's an unlimited supply of first time visiotors that want to drop $10,000 a week and can still actually grow attendance is about as believable as jack and the beanstalk...and that's the premise they have been operating on.

That's also true. As a local, it's not hard for me to spend $20-50 each day I'm there. And if I'm there once a week, well, that can add up.

 

[wishiwere@wdw]

Sea World is desperate for anyone to show up.

Generally speaking, I 100% agree. However, I suspect (and hope!) they made up for the slacking attendance this past week because the park has been slammed. Yesterday took us 45 minutes just to get through the parking plaza to park! But yeah, it’s all of the other gaps throughout the year that they need desperate help with.

Edit: Oops, to keep on topic, yes, the Sea parks perks are fantastic but they need to do things to lure folks over and they do a great job of that. For now at least, Disney has no need or reason to do that; especially with all of the new attractions coming on line in the next few years. As a result, we just purchased the TIW card this week because with our family of 6, we’ll pay for it easily in 3 meals in a year and even quicker when family is in town.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

It seems silly to get rid of the 20% discounts on food and/or merchandise. I know many, including myself, have purchased way more merchandise because of the discount.

It’s not silly if margin matters at all.

 

[ToTBellHop]

It’s not silly if margin matters at all.

I’m sure it’s hard to turn a profit on a hoodie made in Sri Lanka that normally costs $59 but is discounted to $47. And a $17 burger, fries, drink combo discounted to $13.60.

How did they stay in business?

 

[Cake]

, I don't think there's a way to link a magicband for any purchases across the World.

Interdasting. Mine does

 

[Buried20KLeague]

Can all of you hear that?? It’s the sound of other Disney resorts around the world calling your name.

Get your Disney fix. Leave Florida. Spend the same (or less) money.

WDW doesn’t care about you. Quit caring about them.

Pirates Shanghai... sindbad in Tokyo... mystic manor in Hong Kong.... they’re calling you. Listen.

Skip a wdw trip to make it happen if you need to. It’s worth it.

Quit taking the WDW beatings just because you think you have to. It’s highly likely you don’t.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

I’m sure it’s hard to turn a profit on a hoodie made in Sri Lanka that normally costs $59 but is discounted to $47. And a $17 burger, fries, drink combo discounted to $13.60.

How did they stay in business?

The margins are set for various reasons. Mess with them, and you mess with profitability. This is basic. Leeway is limited. Businesses go down around those margins.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Can all of you hear that?? It’s the sound of other Disney resorts around the world calling your name.

Get your Disney fix. Leave Florida. Spend the same (or less) money.

WDW doesn’t care about you. Quit caring about them.

Pirates Shanghai... sindbad in Tokyo... mystic manor in Hong Kong.... they’re calling you. Listen.

Skip a wdw trip to make it happen if you need to. It’s worth it.

Quit taking the WDW beatings just because you think you have to. It’s highly likely you don’t.

On one hand...I agree...

On the other...I'll be damned if I fly 16 hours to give a cent to China...or more specifically igers stupid idea that China is "the future".

That will never be...and if they keep making crappier merch...disney won't even need the sweatshops anymore...

 

[Buried20KLeague]

On one hand...I agree...

On the other...I'll be damned if I fly 16 hours to give a cent to China...or more specifically igers stupid idea that China is "the future".

That will never be...and if they keep making crappier merch...disney won't even need the sweatshops anymore...

Then don’t be political about it and visit Tokyo. Or Paris. Or even Anaheim. The value and product is of better quality even there.

And if you’re worried about contributing to China’s economy... I’ve got news for you... you won’t avoid it. You already do it daily. And it quite literally can’t be avoided. Trust me. I know of what I speak.

But to each their own. I enjoyed shanghai’s Pirates. And mystic. And will enjoy both again, as I’m now a pass holder... for less than a few days at wdw.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Then don’t be political about it and visit Tokyo. Or Paris. Or even Anaheim. The value and product is of better quality even there.

And if you’re worried about contributing to China’s economy... I’ve got news for you... you won’t avoid it. You already do it daily. And it quite literally can’t be avoided. Trust me. I know of what I speak.

But to each their own. I enjoyed shanghai’s Pirates. And mystic. And will enjoy both again, as I’m now a pass holder... for less than a few days at wdw.

I've been to both Anaheim and Paris fairly recently...

I agree that the value in Orlando is bad...probably the worst it's ever been dollar for dollar in history. Unfortunately they were very wise when they built there...it's in the perfect spot as far as demographic access/convenience goes.

What needs to happen is the consumers need to grow a spine...start rejecting upsells/special ticket events and even some of the lodging pricing that are out of whack. Market correction...basically.

But they're been drunk off the koolaid for near ten years now. Until that changes...we'll all be forced to pay for notably the mistakes with espn, amongst other corporate decisions that are disproportionately falling on Orlando, Anaheim, etc.

 

[larryz]

The margins are set for various reasons. Mess with them, and you mess with profitability. This is basic. Leeway is limited. Businesses go down around those margins.

There might be some leeway in executive bonuses...particularly in this company.

 

[matt9112]

I think the inconvenient truth is most AP holders don't act, or more importantly, spend like valued guests.

We drank the kool-aid by the gallon. We would do a 3-4 day weekend there almost monthly while staying at a Disney resort, eating in their restaurants and spending more than we needed to on merch. We seemed to be the exception rather than the rule

All but the out of state AP holders I knew and a few fellow kool-aid drinkers would show up to the parks all the time, eat next to nothing, buy even less and would complain endlessly. If Disney's numbers support my observations, I am honestly surprised they still sell APs.

I walked a middle ground I wouldn't be caught dead paying there room rates but I would buy plenty of merch and food. used to go. monthly now I can't afford it as easily. likely to let AP expire.

 

[matt9112]

Spending $900 on dining is not hard at all especially when you have kids above 9. I can't remember the last time we got out of a Disney TS restaurant for under $100.

lol even QSR bills are in the 70s for me now.

 

[matt9112]

The 30% early/late dinner discount was great. 20% wasn't bad. 10% is meh.

At the end of the day, there are plenty of other restaurants in the area where I don't have to overpay for mediocre food.

this is a good point the discount wouldn't be a big issue to me if the regular price was fair but it's ok food for top dollar.

 

[matt9112]

Don't you have to be a resort guest to pay with your Magic Band?
https://disneyworld.disney.go.com/faq/passholders/non-guest-magic-band-usage/

currently yes but as an AP holder why on earth can't I attach a CC?

 

[Buried20KLeague]

I've been to both Anaheim and Paris fairly recently...

I agree that the value in Orlando is bad...probably the worst it's ever been dollar for dollar in history. Unfortunately they were very wise when they built there...it's in the perfect spot as far as demographic access/convenience goes.

What needs to happen is the consumers need to grow a spine...start rejecting upsells/special ticket events and even some of the lodging pricing that are out of whack. Market correction...basically.

But they're been drunk off the koolaid for near ten years now. Until that changes...we'll all be forced to pay for notably the mistakes with espn, amongst other corporate decisions that are disproportionately falling on Orlando, Anaheim, etc.

That’s exactly why I posted suggesting people take their Disney dollars elsewhere.