News Annual Passholder dining discount drops to 10% for 2018

[RustySpork]

So when they start selling half day tickets for triple figures...and APs are $1500, you'll be happy in the Mickey cop bag checks cause "well...some people are only here 2 days..."

...I give you credit if you do...but I guess I'm on the other side of that coin. I still think disney is a middle class product, it only really works longterm that way, and slapping a "luxury" label on it will fail. And bob iger couldn't or really shouldn't care less...but the consumers left behind betta...

They already sell half day tickets at full rates, any day that a park has a separately ticketed event.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’m not following your logic here.. $270 for one person for one day at WDW makes sense. But adding a party to a 7 day park ticket, at a fraction of the daily price, does not?
I think we’re on two different wave lengths here.. and that’s ok.



That sounds high, extremely high, but let’s go with it.. it has nothing to do with all of the people in the parks who are not staying for 6.8 days at a WDW Resort.

My logic is I can MORE see it with less investment on daily tickets...I didn't say I love it. That's fair.

True, it's hard to quantify the off property numbers...the beachers and the Unisplitters...I get that.

But isn't this "wdwmagic"? Do we want the fringe travelers determinig the ticket policy? Or most of us that I would bet dimes to dollars are frequenters and on property leaners?

 

[Tony the Tigger]

So when they start selling half day tickets for triple figures...and APs are $1500, you'll be happy in the Mickey cop bag checks cause "well...some people are only here 2 days..."

...I give you credit if you do...but I guess I'm on the other side of that coin. I still think disney is a middle class product, it only really works longterm that way, and slapping a "luxury" label on it will fail. And bob iger couldn't or really shouldn't care less...but the consumers left behind betta...

No, I don’t see myself going very much in that scenario. And that’s fine - we should be throwing different experiences into the mix, anyway.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

They already sell half day tickets at full rates, any day that a park has a separately ticketed event.

Yes...do you want that 365? Without a tinsel and confetti excuse?

How about Donald's Easter roasted hen party? Or "goofys independence magic celebration of 'Merica!?"...

It's incredibly naive to think this version of management is happy with any "limits" on revenue in parks...not with espn and the costs to operate heading in the wrong direction...

 

[RustySpork]

Yes...do you want that 365? Without a tinsel and confetti excuse?

How about Donald's Easter roasted hen party? Or "goofys independence magic celebration of 'Merica!?"...

It's incredibly naive to think this version of management is happy with any "limits" on revenue in parks...not with espn and the costs to operate heading in the wrong direction...

Nope, but I'd be fine with it if they only charged half the price for half days.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Nope, but I'd be fine with it if they only charged half the price for half days.

And I got some beans and snowballs to sell you the day that gets 10 seconds of consideration...

 

[RustySpork]

And I got some beans and snowballs to sell you the day that gets 10 seconds of consideration...

I think you're misunderstanding, I'm not cheerleading for Disney here like some of the resident tools are.

 

[Tony the Tigger]

And I got some beans and snowballs to sell you the day that gets 10 seconds of consideration...

That’s what will be “included” at MVMCP.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

That’s what will be “included” at MVMCP.

Yes...for a "modest fee"...

 

[21stamps]

My logic is I can MORE see it with less investment on daily tickets...I didn't say I love it. That's fair.

True, it's hard to quantify the off property numbers...the beachers and the Unisplitters...I get that.

But isn't this "wdwmagic"? Do we want the fringe travelers determinig the ticket policy? Or most of us that I would bet dimes to dollars are frequenters and on property leaners?

It is “wdwmagic”.. but we have to realize that just because “we” stay at Disney for 7 days (if applicable), that has nothing to do with reality of Disney’s pricing decisions and why they make them.

You think my scenario was “fine” because I wasn’t staying at WDW for a week...

I am far from the only person who would stop at Disney World before or after their vacation elsewhere in FL or the Caribbean.

It’s a theme park.. a theme park that has hotels attached.. but it’s still a theme park and will be priced accordingly.

There are options to make it close to an “all inclusive” experience if staying on site.. but it is not and never has been an all inclusive or catering to week long travelers type of destination.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I think you're misunderstanding, I'm not cheerleading for Disney here like some of the resident tools are.

No...I get you...don't doubt it.

I'm like Jean grey or anakin with my sarcasm...my abilities are finely tuned and off the charts...

...even if both those characters are erratic.

 

[RustySpork]

No...I get you...don't doubt it.

I'm like Jean grey or anakin with my sarcasm...my abilities are finely tuned and off the charts...

...even if both those characters are erratic.

 

[21stamps]

And I got some beans and snowballs to sell you the day that gets 10 seconds of consideration...

That’s what will be “included” at MVMCP.

Yes...for a "modest fee"...

Blue snowballs are included at MVMCP

 

[FullSailDan]

currently yes but as an AP holder why on earth can't I attach a CC?

without spilling too much of the beans on how MM+ works on the backend, I can say it's for security reasons at the moment. There was a push for it originally and those plans had to be dialed back after some flaws were found. I think it's a "please look forward to it" capability.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

It is “wdwmagic”.. but we have to realize that just because “we” stay at Disney for 7 days (if applicable), that has nothing to do with reality of Disney’s pricing decisions and why they make them.

You think my scenario was “fine” because I wasn’t staying at WDW for a week...

I am far from the only person who would stop at Disney World before or after their vacation elsewhere in FL or the Caribbean.

It’s a theme park.. a theme park that has hotels attached.. but it’s still a theme park and will be priced accordingly.

There are options to make it close to an “all inclusive” experience if staying on site.. but it is not and never has been an all inclusive or catering to week long travelers type of destination.

I'm not disputing that...I'm stating that consumers ultimately control the price and they are wise to think ahead on them. Disney has a revenue problem with the espn bleed and are leaning on parks...the stock can't gain and that's all that management and the STREET cares about.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

without spilling too much of the beans on how MM+ works on the backend, I can say it's for security reasons at the moment. There was a push for it originally and those plans had to be dialed back after some flaws were found. I think it's a "please look forward to it" capability.

Is it perhaps because the entire credit network has been hacked 8 ways to Sunday and there's no way they'll take on the liability if a breech?

...Nor should they

 

[FullSailDan]

Is it perhaps because the entire credit network has been hacked 8 ways to Sunday and there's no way they'll take on the liability if a breech?

...Nor should they

Uhm... something like that. Relying on third party infrastructure always brings risk, in this case, there was significant cause for security to thrown down the banhammer on the idea.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

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Rusty spork is an odd name choice (but i love it)...

You weren't a water drain hole in nautical applications in a prior life, were you?

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Uhm... something like that. Relying on third party infrastructure always brings risk, in this case, there was significant cause for security to thrown down the banhammer on the idea.

The hackers are ALWAYS ahead of the cyber cops...the amount of damage they did to Target is flabergasting...and that wasn't much

 

[21stamps]

I'm not disputing that...I'm stating that consumers ultimately control the price and they are wise to think ahead on them. Disney has a revenue problem with the espn bleed and are leaning on parks...the stock can't gain and that's all that management and the STREET cares about.

I agree. A lot of consumers realize the price of entertainment these days, and Disney is one of many places that are costly, but consumers choose to do it.. we could buck the whole system everywhere, and just stay home or pitch a tent in our backyards.