News Announced: Mary Poppins Attraction in UK Pavilion

Brer Panther

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The only saving grace is that Disney doesn't seem interested in building charming pretzel style darkrides for IPs anymore. They need to be E-ticket scaled with C-ticket writing. Frozen Ever After, Tiana, Tangled, Neverland Scoop Ride, Ariel, Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway; with their level of writing, these would have all worked out better as charming little Fantasyland style rides.
Yep. If they DID replace Mr. Toad or Pinocchio, it'd probably be with a trackless dark ride.
 

J4546

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THAT is why I have always felt they should build an all new Peter Pan... larger, Longer and double tracked like the old Mr Toad was...Parts sharing the same show rooms, two similar slightly different experiences... Built where the circus tents are... Add a complete Neverland themed area with another attraction or two...it would be amazing and free up the Peter Pan spot for something else....Pinocchio? Tangled?
id rather they relocate/rebuild IaSW to circus area and give is a mary blaire aesthetic in that area and redo the fantasyland area to a tangled boat ride with tangeled themed food and much better aesthetic
 

Homemade Imagineering

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id rather they relocate/rebuild IaSW to circus area and give is a mary blaire aesthetic in that area and redo the fantasyland area to a tangled boat ride with tangeled themed food and much better aesthetic
I’m not sure I trust this current regime to touch IASW that heavily. If anything, since everyone keeps dogpiling MK IASW (which I can understand) why don’t they just enclose the queue space & add some unique, 24/7 projection mapping to the facade? Make use of the fact its indoors & create a permanent lighting package unique to their version, almost how Disneyland uses their facade for all the firework shows. Now imagine that specially made for the theme of the attraction, during all hours of operation. Could be something special. Add back those colorful fountains too!!
 

nickys

Premium Member
Realistically does each world show case pavilion have space for an attraction? Or only a select few?
Japan, Germany and Italy all had original plans for attractions behind the current pavilion boundaries. As far as I know those expansion pads are still there.

In the case of the U.K., it would involve using some of the existing gardens, or using the adjacent giant marquee space.

Ratatouille has used half of the expansion pad between Morocco and France; I don’t know if there is land behind the existing Morocco pavilion that could be used but I don’t think so.
 

wdrive

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Japan, Germany and Italy all had original plans for attractions behind the current pavilion boundaries. As far as I know those expansion pads are still there.

In the case of the U.K., it would involve using some of the existing gardens, or using the adjacent giant marquee space.

Ratatouille has used half of the expansion pad between Morocco and France; I don’t know if there is land behind the existing Morocco pavilion that could be used but I don’t think so.

There’s room for an attraction at Morocco if they wanted to build one. There’s space between Morocco and Japan plus a smaller plot directly behind Morocco.
 

nickys

Premium Member
There’s room for an attraction at Morocco if they wanted to build one. There’s space between Morocco and Japan plus a smaller plot directly behind Morocco.
What about Japan?

Is there still enough room behind the pavilion for the Mount Fuji ride, or have the filled some of it with the restaurant and store?
 

wdrive

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What about Japan?

Is there still enough room behind the pavilion for the Mount Fuji ride, or have the filled some of it with the restaurant and store?

There’s space between Morocco and Japan that was originally earmarked for another pavilion. You could fit an attraction (or two) in there. It’s the same situation as Ratatouille and the Frozen meet and greet. All built on original plots for future pavilions.
 

aladdin2007

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There’s space between Morocco and Japan that was originally earmarked for another pavilion. You could fit an attraction (or two) in there. It’s the same situation as Ratatouille and the Frozen meet and greet. All built on original plots for future pavilions.
not during our lifetimes but that can go away for something else if they ever wanted to. So in a sense that whole expansion pad could still be an entire new pavilion someday....but I think the one between Germany and Italy (which would have been Brazil) or one of the two next to Africa outpost would happen first before anything there.
 
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nickys

Premium Member
There’s space between Morocco and Japan that was originally earmarked for another pavilion. You could fit an attraction (or two) in there. It’s the same situation as Ratatouille and the Frozen meet and greet. All built on original plots for future pavilions.
Yeah, I know they can use the empty expansion pads. I was more interested in whether they could (not will) still build those original rides at the back of the existing pavilions.
 

wdrive

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Yeah, I know they can use the empty expansion pads. I was more interested in whether they could (not will) still build those original rides at the back of the existing pavilions.

If they wanted. Although it would be more difficult to build anything directly behind the Japan pavilion.

There’s the old show building that was once planned to host the Carousel of Progress type attraction. I can presume they’ve found some other use for it over the years most likely storage. That could be moved/demolished though.

I’m not expertly and I don’t know too much about the Mount Fuji coaster and if it was actually planned to go directly behind the pavilion.
 
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ChrisFL

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THAT is why I have always felt they should build an all new Peter Pan... larger, Longer and double tracked like the old Mr Toad was...Parts sharing the same show rooms, two similar slightly different experiences... Built where the circus tents are... Add a complete Neverland themed area with another attraction or two...it would be amazing and free up the Peter Pan spot for something else....Pinocchio? Tangled?

I'm wondering what Tokyo will do since they have a big Peter Pan ride in DisneySea now...will they keep their original Peter Pan ride in Tokyo Disneyland or replace it with something else.
 

LittleBuford

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It also doesn't help that the other areas are Country-based and not region-based. Canada and the US aren't combined into the North American Pavilion. Mexico isn't a Central American Pavillion. Its hard to then have a pavilion which embodies three different countries and cultures.

That being said, let's just make a Darby O' Gill ride and call it a day. 🤪
The UK is a country, though—our passports are British, not English, Scottish, Welsh, or Northern Irish. Yes, it is a country made up of constituent nations, but (somewhat contrary to @osian’s assertion) I don’t see how the situation differs all that much from what one finds in, say, Italy, which too is made up of different regions with their own cultures, traditions, and even languages.
 
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LittleBuford

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Er yes. You missed my point.

It’s like me saying it’s amazing how many great American authors came from Canada. In short, it’s offensive to Irish people to say that those great writers are British.
Wait, I’m confused. If you’re referring to the Republic of Ireland, I get your point, but many in Northern Ireland do consider themselves British. It’s a bit simplistic to claim that British and Irish are mutually exclusive categories.
 

LittleBuford

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He was Irish born, since Northern Ireland did not exist at the time of his birth.
And nor did the Republic of Ireland! He was born at a time when the United Kingdom included the whole of Ireland and when the only nationality that officially existed was British. That’s a separate matter from how he himself identified, of course, and it seems from his letters that he regarded himself as Irish, though he was an Anglican born into a Unionist family.
 

nickys

Premium Member
Wait, I’m confused. If you’re referring to the Republic of Ireland, I get your point, but many in Northern Ireland do consider themselves British. It’s a bit simplistic to claim that British and Irish are mutually exclusive categories.
Context is key here. The writers he listed were all from the Republic of Ireland. Allowing for the confusion over CS Lewis.

And I disagree that Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland are akin to Tuscany and Sicily in Italy. There is a world of difference between a region and a nation. We may have British passports but we have our own Parliament and laws, and devolved government and taxation. Very few of your laws and government departments apply north of the border.
 

LittleBuford

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I bet I could ask 100 Americans what country brought us the stories of Dracula, Narnia, and Dorian Grey and most would say England. I myself only realized Stoker's heritage when attending a Dracula-themed show/presentation in regard to the occult influencing Stoker last year at Fringe.

And while I was if I was ignorant to Stoker's biography and heritage, I wouldn't classify myself as an ignorant person, especially amongst theme park guests. Folks who visit WDW and World Showcase are typically not the same people who actually travel and visit these locales.
Stoker is a tricky one, because he did regard himself as British as well as Irish.
 

LittleBuford

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And I disagree that Scotland, England, Wales and Northern Ireland are akin to Tuscany and Sicily in Italy. There is a world of difference between a region and a nation. We may have British passports but we have our own Parliament and laws, and devolved government and taxation. Very few of your laws and government departments apply north of the border.
Politically, you’re correct. I was referring more to things like culture, architecture, and language. In those terms, I don’t think my comparison to Italy is unfair.
 

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