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EPCOT Announced: Mary Poppins Attraction in UK Pavilion

peter11435

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Yeah…I don’t think that registered right

was it “when’s the last time they put a new concept on a ride from an existing property”??
I’m pretty sure the poster meant when was the last time they developed original ideas and environments based on an existing franchise. Which clearly is a silly statement.
 

The Aracuan Bird

Well-Known Member
That they never use ip for a ride…

shirley ye jest? 🤪
I think the issue is that I initially wrote that line immediately after the sentence that said they rarely go beyond what is found in the film when creating new IP based attractions. Then I added in the two lines about how it would be cool if they actually did do that because I really like the idea of an attraction that would explore the human brain.

My mistake.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
I think the issue is that I initially wrote that line immediately after the sentence that said they rarely go beyond what is found in the film when creating new IP based attractions. Then I added in the two lines about how it would be cool if they actually did do that because I really like the idea of an attraction that would explore the human brain.

My mistake.
No I got you. It was confusing but I knew where you were headed
 

The Aracuan Bird

Well-Known Member
I’m pretty sure the poster meant when was the last time they developed original ideas and environments based on an existing franchise. Which clearly is a silly statement.
Is it really? When was the last time? Cause I look at the Star Wars, or Mickey, or Frozen, or Toy Story rides and I see settings and set pieces that look familiar. Maybe they changed the names of things here and there, but a grassy park for Mickey? A space ship for Rise of the Resistance? An ice palace for Frozen? These aren’t exactly original settings that you can’t find in the source material.

Of course, we are talking about RIDES. I get that the Star Wars land is a new location. Though even then, a desert space port town isn’t exactly that new of a concept either. We’ve seen similar in the films.
 

peter11435

Well-Known Member
On rides???

…like where have they pushed the bar? Omni or trackless ride throughs have been “good enough”
Why are you pushing this into something unrelated? This has nothing to do with pushing the bar or ride systems. The question was about the environments themselves not the ride systems. Several recent projects have involved designing environments and structures that were not simply direct recreations from source material.
 

UNCgolf

Well-Known Member
Is it really? When was the last time? Cause I look at the Star Wars, or Mickey, or Frozen, or Toy Story rides and I see settings and set pieces that look familiar. Maybe they changed the names of things here and there, but a grassy park for Mickey? A space ship for Rise of the Resistance? An ice palace for Frozen? These aren’t exactly original settings that you can’t find in the source material.

Of course, we are talking about RIDES. I get that the Star Wars land is a new location. Though even then, a desert space port town isn’t exactly that new of a concept either. We’ve seen similar in the films.

While I think you're right re: rides, has Disney ever really done differently?

The only ride they've built based on one of their existing franchises that doesn't just recreate places from the movie in question is 20K, at least off the top of my head. I could be forgetting something.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Why are you pushing this into something unrelated? This has nothing to do with pushing the bar or ride systems. The question was about the environments themselves not the ride systems. Several recent projects have involved designing environments and structures that were not simply direct recreations from source material.
Perhaps…but now we’re gonna laud bland rides, aren’t we?

…so that will go the opposite of center too.

which rides weren’t direct recreations, by the way?

runaway railway…I suppose?
 

aliceismad

Well-Known Member
The only issue with Inside Out is that the film isn’t very “location-centric”. There isn’t much in the way of memorable set pieces. Which would force the Imagineers to come of with some cool original things on their own. Explore sections of the brain that weren’t covered in the film. That sounds like it could be a really cool attraction. But when was the last time they did that with an existing franchise? There’s only so much you can do with long corridors that are filled with colored balls.
Inside Imagination Land alone there's cloud town, french fry forest, the lava area, princess dream world, etc. Abstract thought could be really cool as a ride segment. Plus the creepy clown in the jail and the dream-creation. I know people dislike rides that basically retell the movie, but I think there are some cool settings within Inside Out.

I would also argue that Wall-E and Ralph could become cool rides if they're done right. A Ralph ride would almost certainly be screen based though. I'd love a Wall-E ride from the perspective of one of the other "malfunctioning" robots that Wall-E freed or something.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Inside Imagination Land alone there's cloud town, french fry forest, the lava area, princess dream world, etc. Abstract thought could be really cool as a ride segment. Plus the creepy clown in the jail and the dream-creation. I know people dislike rides that basically retell the movie, but I think there are some cool settings within Inside Out.

I would also argue that Wall-E and Ralph could become cool rides if they're done right. A Ralph ride would almost certainly be screen based though. I'd love a Wall-E ride from the perspective of one of the other "malfunctioning" robots that Wall-E freed or something.
Wall-e would be perfect ip if they are insistent in putting it in Epcot.

but they wouldn’t do it…not enough cross sell
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Do you always have difficulty following a conversation? Or is that just on the forum
“Is Mary poppins still on?”
“No.”

there’s the most recent “flow” of the conversation…rest is tangent.

and Disney didn’t even have to splain it to me…

But I play along…for instance the barbs being Thrown by “newbies” that clearly were in the neighborhood based on aggressiveness and style prior to 27 days ago…

it’s all in good fun
 

The Aracuan Bird

Well-Known Member
While I think you're right re: rides, has Disney ever really done differently?

The only ride they've built based on one of their existing franchises that doesn't just recreate places from the movie in question is 20K, at least off the top of my head. I could be forgetting something.
I’d say Mr. Toad and Splash as well. But you’re right. However, we have to keep in mind that the animated film industry has changed.

If you look at a film like Disney’s Peter Pan, the mystical world of Neverland is just as important if not more so than the film’s theme and story. If you look at a Disney/Pixar film today, it’s usually more focused on social or political commentary, and creating that reflect that. The mystical animated wonderlands are usually out of the picture. That’s just fine for a 90 minute film, but does that work for a 4 minute dark ride? Not really, and that’s when you have to get creative.
 

James Alucobond

Well-Known Member
But I play along…for instance the barbs being Thrown by “newbies” that clearly were in the neighborhood based on aggressiveness and style prior to 27 days ago…
This would be an actual passive-aggressive barb, one which I assume is directed at me. But I sincerely mean no disrespect. I just legitimately find it difficult to understand the logic behind who and what you quote, which in turn makes it nearly impossible to carry on a conversation. Quoting someone implies you either want to respond directly to what that person said or engage in a back-and-forth conversation.
 

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
This would be an actual passive-aggressive barb, one which I assume is directed at me. But I sincerely mean no disrespect. I just legitimately find it difficult to understand the logic behind who and what you quote, which in turn makes it nearly impossible to carry on a conversation. Quoting someone implies you either want to respond directly to what that person said or engage in a back-and-forth conversation.

it’s all in there…and I guess this thread has puttered out again.

but It was a rollercoaster ride reading back a few pages.
 

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