News Announced: Mary Poppins Attraction in UK Pavilion

Kman101

Kman101

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rle4lunch said:
I'm on the train of 'could care less if it's IP related' as long as it's an enjoyable ride. Disney was built on acquired IP's (movies, books, etc), so it's their right to use them as they see fit. That doesn't mean I still don't long for the days of my 80's childhood visiting a truly magical EPCOT (blew me away with what was there), but I don't see anything wrong with building a solid ride around an already fleshed out idea (i.e. IP). Frozen is light years better than Maelstrom, but understand that its based on fictional representations of ancient Scandinavia and not Norway proper.

I rode FoP a month or so ago for the first time. And for the first time, in a very long time, I felt that 80's EPCOT magic, if only for a brief second (because the actual ride time is about 30 seconds too short). I don't even like Avatar, but dang it they did good with it.
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Yay, I'm on the same page as someone ;) lol. I feel pretty much the same as you.

I just loved FOP. My slight fear of heights actually made it a lot more exciting lol. It was really well done.

I'm all for new but not just for the sake of new, if that makes sense. I'm all for different IPs too, but I want them to make sense and not just used because it's a popular IP, Guardians pushes it for me, Frozen looks like a perfect fit in comparison.

Personally I wish Horizons was still there and not Mission Space and I barely remember Horizons as a kid. So for me I think there should be a healthy balance between the 'old' and 'new'. Mission Space belongs in the Kennedy Space Center. LOL. World of Motion, I think it sucks to lose the grand scale of a dark ride for a cheap thrill but I don't hate Test Track. It should have been an expansion of the pavilion though, not the replacement.
 
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larandtra

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We can lament the loss of the "direction" by the addition of IPs to Epcot, but, the reality is, that is the direction they are going. Things change, the world changes, and Disney changes. My only issue, since I have accepted that IPs WILL be used and the days of Horizons are past, is that they use IPs that FIT. Nemo in Living Seas, Remy in France, etc fit without being forced. Frozen was forced and until they finish the redesign and update of FW, Im not sure how GotG fit. If Ips are used, well placed, and well done, Im not against it. Just do it using some sense and up to now they have not proven they can do that.
 
larryz

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larandtra said:
We can lament the loss of the "direction" by the addition of IPs to Epcot, but, the reality is, that is the direction they are going. Things change, the world changes, and Disney changes. My only issue, since I have accepted that IPs WILL be used and the days of Horizons are past, is that they use IPs that FIT. Nemo in Living Seas, Remy in France, etc fit without being forced. Frozen was forced and until they finish the redesign and update of FW, Im not sure how GotG fit. If Ips are used, well placed, and well done, Im not against it. Just do it using some sense and up to now they have not proven they can do that.
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Well, at least they aren't forcing GotG into the UK by using Yondu's line, "Hey, I'm Mary Poppins, y'all!"
 
rle4lunch

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Excuse me...it's independence hall, old state house, Monticello, and the Virginia state house...if I do recall
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I do declare!
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Kman101

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larandtra said:
We can lament the loss of the "direction" by the addition of IPs to Epcot, but, the reality is, that is the direction they are going. Things change, the world changes, and Disney changes. My only issue, since I have accepted that IPs WILL be used and the days of Horizons are past, is that they use IPs that FIT. Nemo in Living Seas, Remy in France, etc fit without being forced. Frozen was forced and until they finish the redesign and update of FW, Im not sure how GotG fit. If Ips are used, well placed, and well done, Im not against it. Just do it using some sense and up to now they have not proven they can do that.
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Exactly. I lament the loss of what was too, even if I don't remember a lot of it. I still appreciate what was there and wish it could be like that again. But that isn't the direction they're taking. I agree on the IPs that fit, which I include Inside Out and BH6 into that. They fit the current hybrid park they seem to want. So, at least for me, when I say an IP fits Epcot, I'm talking about it's current direction. Obviously many truly don't fit the park as it once was. I think many miss the grand scale of the attractions and lament that loss too. There's really no comparison between Horizons and sitting in front of a simulator. If they gave us experiences like Horzions but maybe featured an IP (not saying build Horizons with an IP), I think more would be a slight bit more open. Maybe. LOL. That theory is why I don't always shut the door on the use of IP because I think some can fit and sometimes it would be no different than imagineers creating a rat that's a chef who runs around a kitchen in France. But because it's a movie IP and rides seem to be mandated as educational for World Showcase (which, I'm not saying is wrong to want that), there's resistance. I get both sides of it.

Very much agreed on the last bit on if it's done well as a whole. And yeah they have proven they can't do that, at least yet. Nemo shouldn't have been a rehash of searching for Nemo. I like seeing the projections in the aquarium, but the storyline is basic and meant to appeal to toddlers it seems. Have Mr. Ray take Nemo and the 'kids' on a class field trip. I don't know, they really could have done better here using Nemo, but it was a lazy quick fix. But I don't necessarily hate Turtle Talk or Nemo being there, although I understand why some resent it and can't let the character infusion go. I absolutely get why people are resistant to IPs in Epcot because they haven't been used well (that's just one of the reasons of course). But I remain hopeful lol.
 
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Phicinfan

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
All that's being built now is just to make up for the lost decade...that's all that it is...

All the people salivating for rides "for the 50th"...that's not what this is at all. It's damage control as bob parachutes away. Don't take my word for it...watch as it unfolds.
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Could it not be both... I agree they are playing major catch up for sitting on their duffets. But linking it to the 50th could wipe some of the egg off their faces
 
Kman101

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
...wish it was the RIGHT park...the one on the other end of the channel...
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I'd put Mary in that park too actually (and actually both could work in the castle park, maybe the best choice, as Tomorrowland as is would fit Guardians, old Tomorrowland - no) but I'll shamelessly ignore the reasons it probably shouldn't be in Epcot... I can justify it and I admit it's a bit of a stretch, but at least it takes place in a real place mixed with fantasy. So in theory this isn't the worst spot for it. But I also shouldn't have to try and justify it I guess .... For me Guardians just isn't justifiable at all in Epcot. I know if I resist that I should resist others ... Maybe I wouldn't resent it *quite* as much (but it's still wrong for Epcot) if I wasn't slapped in the face with the Peter Quill visited Epcot lip service.
 
Castle Cake Apologist

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Kman101 said:
Nemo shouldn't have been a rehash of searching for Nemo. I like seeing the projections in the aquarium, but the storyline is basic and meant to appeal to toddlers it seems. Have Mr. Ray take Nemo and the 'kids' on a class field trip.
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This has always been one of the biggest missed opportunites of modern WDI to me. The edutainment angle here was so obvious, yet they go with a rehash of the movie's plot? Waste.
 
Sirwalterraleigh

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Kman101 said:
Exactly. It's a waste and a big missed opportunity. It's a shame because it didn't have to be.
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Couldn't agree more about living seas...it was a complete educational local that wasn't going away that would have worked with edutainment perfectly...

But the problem is...it seems...that it wasn't about revamping the seas...it was about introducing the babying to Epcot pavilions...and now they are proceeding with it...
 
Dutch Inn '76

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Mary poppins is the best achievement in the history of Disney movies - if we're honest - with really only Snow White and toy story entering the dialogue..

But it is a staunchly, silly, stereotypes view of London that was really for another time.

I love it...and would like to see a decent ride produced from it...but I also have no beef with Brits that say it's all wrong...or those that still lament the ending of epcot's theme, vision and history (hand up right here)
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Well, yeah - but all movies are stereotypes; even the ones that try not to be. Fiction is like that. I completely agree that Mary Poppins is one of Disney's best, and it should be celebrated as such.

To the question of why no moaning about IP in the World Showcase: for me it's because that train has left the station. There's no undoing it now, so we might as well hope that they do it well.
 
Castle Cake Apologist

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Kman101 said:
For me Guardians just isn't justifiable at all in Epcot. I know if I resist that I should resist others ... Maybe I wouldn't resent it *quite* as much (but it's still wrong for Epcot) if I wasn't slapped in the face with the Peter Quill visited Epcot lip service.
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The difference for me is that Poppins is at least based on classic British literature, so it would be an attraction that ties in some way to the culture of the pavilion.
 
Castle Cake Apologist

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Sirwalterraleigh said:
Is PL Travers really "classic British literature"??

I mean...she was Australian...and wasn't exaclty the lost Bronte sister
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I definitely didn't know that. I'm no Brit, so I guess somebody like @marni1971 or @wdwmagic would have to speak to the cultural impact of Travers' Mary Poppins. I just always assumed it was classic Brit Lit.

At least this one actually takes place in the nation (kingdom?) they are putting it in, I guess? *sigh*
 

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