Ya know, its NOT that much really. It is about as middle middle class as you can get.
This is BOTH our incomes combined (hence gross family income)
I find it curious that you consider it "that kind of money" May i ask what you do?
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Analysts project 10 pct attendance decline at Disney's U.S. parks
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This is BOTH our incomes combined (hence gross family income)
I find it curious that you consider it "that kind of money" May i ask what you do?
slappy magoo
Well-Known Member
But when you dream like alecshawn dreams, you can be a make-believe millionaire! Forget about being like Walt, be like alecshawn! Ignorance is bliss and this cat is in Nirvana!
SirGoofy
Member
:lol:
You've been slightly hinting at this in multiple threads, and he hasn't come close to picking up on it. Bravo Mr. Magoo.
Debate one in the arena of ideas, dont try to discredit someone just because you disagree.
you know, i have been honest about myself 110%, are you?
I though we were "buds" but, if i disagree with someone, i'll debate them based on facts not insults, personal thought and intellect, not consensus.
I dont follow you around and harass you, why do you to me?
Do you like my company THAT much?
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Ive got a big wad.
loads of moneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
loads of moneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
flynnibus
Premium Member
So Chicago is cheaper if you don't stay in prime locations... kinda like Disney.
So LA is only expensive if you actually go and do things. Check.
You've obviously never been to New Jersey.
But regardless.. you don't eat or sleep on the beach.. so you gotta still get a room. Ever check out condo or room rates at the beaches? It will cost you about 2k a week to rent our condo. Oh, and you want to goto the boardwalk and do other things? You'd be WISHING you could pay Disney's $30-$40 a day rate to do everything. You'll blow $30/head doing basically one or two things period.
Now sure, I could goto Avon, NC and pay a few grand for a house and do nothing but hang out on the beach and eat in every night. There are different ways of doing most types of vacations.
But most 'getaway' vacations where you want to go and do 'attractions' aren't cheap. Disney is expensive - sure. But is everything else cheap? No way.
Going to Florida and doing Universal, the Cape, Daytona, and everything else is going to be expensive too... even if you never went to Disney.
If you want to compare the cost of Disney to other vacations.. at least compare it to something comperable. Don't compare a 3 day road trip in hotels to a week long stay at a resort. That's 'apples and oranges'
SoccerMickey
Active Member
I never thought the price of tickets were too expensive because they are a good value and very comparable to other entertainment venues out there. The resorts are overpriced but the thing I wish we didn't do at Disney it totally take advantage of our guests over the price of the food.
"That kind of money" really depends on where you live. In my former town, the median was a lot higher than where it is here. You can get by on a lot less in this area. That's why I spend a fraction on what I used to on groceries, and my house was basically half-priced. It's all relative.
SoccerMickey, I agree- there is no where else I am going to get that experience. For me it is worth the wait. But, in this economy... they need to do whatever they have to do to keep things afloat. I'm glad I'm not the one having to make those kinds of decisions.
SoccerMickey, I agree- there is no where else I am going to get that experience. For me it is worth the wait. But, in this economy... they need to do whatever they have to do to keep things afloat. I'm glad I'm not the one having to make those kinds of decisions.
Since1976
Well-Known Member
Well, if the stats are correct, nearly one out of ten of us (assuming our forum members are a representative sample of the population) are unemployed right now, so this prediction of a 10% drop in attendance is no surprise. Me, I'm knocking on wood I'll still have a job when our vacation rolls around later this year. If I do lose my job, we'll probably still go (we have a timeshare we're still paying for), but we will probably go cheap on just about everything.
Rough times, but you have to make time for fun to keep your sanity.
Rough times, but you have to make time for fun to keep your sanity.
whylightbulb
Well-Known Member
First of all, they have been laying around (metaphorically speaking and in comparison) for the past 15 years. What I mean by that is they have been conditioning us to accept mediocre product (with a very few exceptions) by giving us low quality attractions, slashed maintenance budgets and standards, less service and higher prices. Why three more years? I would think 15 years is enough time.
Second, in what way would Disney be catering only to the "niche" market at the expense of the general public by actually building quality new attractions and getting back to the Disney standards of service? Don't you think the general public would enjoy better attractions and service? How would that not benefit all involved?
jt04
Well-Known Member
See Disney's California Adventure
CBOMB
Active Member
I don't know about 10 cent coffee, but a pint of Ale will set you back $8.oo!
SirGoofy
Member
Tis what I expected.
But why must you bring up facts, tirian? Everything is perfect and magical at WDW?:brick:
whendoweleave?
New Member
I love reading everyones post's but why does it always seem to end up like two little kids fighting and insulting each other.
Please lets talk about Disney not act like two year olds in a school yard!!!
Please lets talk about Disney not act like two year olds in a school yard!!!
whendoweleave?
New Member
I'm self employed and have been for over 20 years. I'm a home remodeling contractor and i can tell you first hand people are afraid to spend money right now. My business is off by some 70% from a year ago. I'M not the only one many of my friends who own their own businesses are experiencing the same issues. They have a wide range of businesses from,Painting,flooring,plumbers,insurance,mail boxes etc., auto repair.
I do feel that yes we are in a bad way for many reasons but i think the news media feeds the fire and keeps it going. They spread fear among the masses. With all the 24 hour news outlets they need to talk about something. People get tired of hearing about "octo mom" 'Tot mom" " Was it a Fax paw that Mrs. Obama touched the queen"
It's just like the "storm of the century" warnings they love to give out. People panic and run out empty the local super markets because "a storm is on the way" then we end up with just a few snow flakes. They need to keep you watching somehow.
I don't find it hard to believe that Disney is forecasting a 10% drop in attendance. I would think it would be more. However that being said i have been to the parks 5 or 6 different times this year and it ALWAYS seems crowded. I'm not just talking about wait times for rides but over all number of guests in the park.
Also I have noticed that the people with the little touch screen surveys have been very interested in what I'm spending and where I'm eating recently. Normally they are more interested in how many times i have been to the park or where i come from. That alone must tell you what their thought process is at.
On the matter of the affordability of Disney. I'm glad Disney has a bit of a higher price all you have to do is look at the guest's that come to many of the lower priced parks. I have gone to many,many amusement parks around the country over the years and the cheaper ones have lots of unruly packs of kids and for that matter adults. The higher pricing i feel helps keep the undesirables out.
That's just my humble opinion!
I do feel that yes we are in a bad way for many reasons but i think the news media feeds the fire and keeps it going. They spread fear among the masses. With all the 24 hour news outlets they need to talk about something. People get tired of hearing about "octo mom" 'Tot mom" " Was it a Fax paw that Mrs. Obama touched the queen"
It's just like the "storm of the century" warnings they love to give out. People panic and run out empty the local super markets because "a storm is on the way" then we end up with just a few snow flakes. They need to keep you watching somehow.
I don't find it hard to believe that Disney is forecasting a 10% drop in attendance. I would think it would be more. However that being said i have been to the parks 5 or 6 different times this year and it ALWAYS seems crowded. I'm not just talking about wait times for rides but over all number of guests in the park.
Also I have noticed that the people with the little touch screen surveys have been very interested in what I'm spending and where I'm eating recently. Normally they are more interested in how many times i have been to the park or where i come from. That alone must tell you what their thought process is at.
On the matter of the affordability of Disney. I'm glad Disney has a bit of a higher price all you have to do is look at the guest's that come to many of the lower priced parks. I have gone to many,many amusement parks around the country over the years and the cheaper ones have lots of unruly packs of kids and for that matter adults. The higher pricing i feel helps keep the undesirables out.
That's just my humble opinion!
whylightbulb
Well-Known Member
Yes I completely agree with your post. I too own a business and it's amazing to me how scared people are. It goes to show how reliant we are on credit instead of real money.
The parks have been packed! The restaurants are always full. I was at Cosmic Rays tonight and had a hard time walking without bumping into someone. I'm sorry but I don't completely buy the reports of lost revenue due to lower merchandise and F&B sales.
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
call me crazy, but doesn't accusing people of acting like children fall under the category of an insult? :shrug:
Just asking...............:lookaroun