People who have gone through the gates seems to know. Not for Disney but for the 11 places that have reported "NO ID checking" of any sort. These places are open and are not checking for residency because the person has already
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TP2000
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at·tes·ta·tion
/ˌaˌteˈstāSH(ə)n,ˌadəˈstāSH(ə)n/
noun
1. evidence or proof of something.
"personal attestations and subjective claims only matter so much"
/ˌaˌteˈstāSH(ə)n,ˌadəˈstāSH(ə)n/
noun
1. evidence or proof of something.
"personal attestations and subjective claims only matter so much"
- a declaration that something exists or is the case.
Californian Elitist
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No, I mean no one knows regarding Disneyland, which the original question was about. The parks are still closed.
BubbaisSleep
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As others have replied & referring to DL, we'll wait but Disney does seem to be BETTER (in terms of handling covid, don't care about personal opinions on if it’s necessary) than other themeparks. I cannot encourage the rule breaking, as I have been disappointed as a transportation worker barely getting my second vaccine next week even though I’ve NEVER stopped physically working once. So it kills me to see people cheating the system. But I honestly have never been asked for an ID once anywhere in Cali. Disney doesn’t play though, so expect to go to Knotts or Sixflags if you make the jump before opening reports.
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ToTBellHop
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I do know we were assured Disney would not allow people to buy tickets without a CA billing address (false) or book a reservation if they were not physically located in CA (also false).
I also know Disney is aggressively marketing Avengers Campus to people outside CA. At minimum, they want people to come this summer, and the fact that you can still get tickets most dates after the virtual queues yesterday reveals why—CA residents, in fact, will not be filling the parks every day (even with greatly reduced capacity). They need tourists. CA certainly will not pass on a year of tourism right as Americans are making their plans.
So, no, we don’t know what they will do opening day, let alone a month later. But we can read the signs pretty easily.
As for Universal, we will know later today.
I also know Disney is aggressively marketing Avengers Campus to people outside CA. At minimum, they want people to come this summer, and the fact that you can still get tickets most dates after the virtual queues yesterday reveals why—CA residents, in fact, will not be filling the parks every day (even with greatly reduced capacity). They need tourists. CA certainly will not pass on a year of tourism right as Americans are making their plans.
So, no, we don’t know what they will do opening day, let alone a month later. But we can read the signs pretty easily.
As for Universal, we will know later today.
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Californian Elitist
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Didn’t you book a trip for dates after June 15th? If so, it would make sense and wouldn’t be false at all.
Californian Elitist
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It’s been amusing seeing people throw tantrums over having to wait 1.5 months longer to visit Disneyland. Like, it’s been a year and you’ve survived. But when the addiction itch can’t be stopped, now you’ve got people whining online like children.
In addition, it’s also been amusing seeing CA residents respond to the complaints, claiming CA residents “deserve this,” or replying with “stay your *** at home.”
Everyone over 16 can get a free vaccine and no ID required (at some locations). I got the vaccine at Walmart, which required an ID, but I heard others got a vaccine at CVS and some big vaccines sites that didn't ask for any ID. This makes the vaccine card almost a joke since they can't verify who actually got it. Just photo copy one if you must, but get the free shot in any case to protect yourself from others.Really?
Proof of vaccination? That little paper card with no barcode, no QR code, no serial number, and just some ballpoint pen scribbles on it?
How cute.
ToTBellHop
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I did not pick dates but others have. The single easiest way to exclude out of state people is to keep them from buying to begin with. They chose not to do so even though it’s easy. I wonder why.
If I had to guess, Disney and other companies will go above and beyond in enforcing a rule when it financially-benefits them. That is their carrot. We’ve seen enforcement of mask rules decline because the expectation is not as strong as it was last summer. Meanwhile, enforcing residency for a discount SoCal ticket makes financial sense. They don’t want others to save money.
What is the benefit to Disney or anyone in turning away people ignoring a guideline? Nothing. Same reason hotels turn the blind eye toward the travel advisory that is similarly not a law.
When we add the challenge to social distancing and the complexity of somehow verifying an electric bill for someone without a CA ID, it is not worth getting into the quagmire, and certainly not when the guideline only requires an attestation, putting the onus on the guest to be honest. What benefit is there for Disney forcing someone with a ticket to stay in Downtown Disney? It seems these companies are hoping the threat of getting caught will keep most away. They are probably right. I wouldn’t personally risk it. But, some probably will (mostly people from neighboring states who can drive) and they’ll likely get away with it.
Again, if they were serious about enforcement, the only way to do it is to refuse to sell tickets to those without a CA address. They decided not to do so.
But, this doesn’t impact me anyway. I’m going long after 6/15, as you said. I bought 5-day park hoppers because I think the price will only increase and I know I’ll go before January 2023, so there’s no risk
This is moreso an interesting philosophical argument for me. I certainly do not condone someone breaking the rules nor do I understand rushing when you’ll have to exit the Haunted Mansion building to get to the ride. Yuck.
180º
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Refusing to sell tickets to an out-of-state billing address may have been a good idea logistically and made for greater clarity, but listen...Disney wants your money. It wants your money now.
ToTBellHop
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I think it is a bit rich for any member of these boards to judge someone for wanting to go to Disneyland.
Californian Elitist
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There you go again.
I’m not judging someone for wanting to go to Disneyland. I very much understand wanting to go to Disneyland, obviously. You misunderstood my sentiments, once again.
ToTBellHop
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Nothing judgmental about “whining online like children”?
DavidDL
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I don't have the app but was curious what the wait times were, since today is their first, official day open. This website shows this:
Not terrible. Probably a good indication of what I can expect to see this weekend. With so few attractions open to eat people up and with limited capacity, I'm sure these numbers will "trade" during the day. ie. once everyone's done at Jurassic World, those people will shift to Mummy and Transformers, etc.
Might be good to snag a virtual queue spot for Pets first thing, then avoid the new Jurassic World finale's line until later since that's where most folks will head next. I can get my Potter and Transformers fix until then!
Not terrible. Probably a good indication of what I can expect to see this weekend. With so few attractions open to eat people up and with limited capacity, I'm sure these numbers will "trade" during the day. ie. once everyone's done at Jurassic World, those people will shift to Mummy and Transformers, etc.
Might be good to snag a virtual queue spot for Pets first thing, then avoid the new Jurassic World finale's line until later since that's where most folks will head next. I can get my Potter and Transformers fix until then!
BubbaisSleep
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For those exact reasons I’m being very patient towards my first DLR visit & have settled on visiting other parks for this year if I’m lucky to do so. I can’t imagine the first general public guests being too enjoyable or polite after so much time cooped up, I’d rather wait.
The politics of it all has been very amusing. I can already see people on social media bringing out their pitchforks for those out-of-state bloggers. “Disneyland is ours! Not yours, you out-of-statey!” They may even try to build a wall around Disneyland at some point
mickEblu
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Is Secret Life of Pets the only ride that offers a virtual queue? We need to download the USH app or anything do we?
Professortango1
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There's a difference between wanting to go and having a public meltdown because you can't get a ticket the first day they go on sale. I saw so many people kvetching about how all 8 devices are stuck....well, maybe if people didn't have multiple devices trying to log in....
I want to go to Disneyland, but I'm not writing angry posts on social media about having to wait another few days.
Californian Elitist
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How does that correlate to me judging folks for wanting to go to Disneyland?
What I’m actually judging is their behavior. I’ve seen some people literally trying to come up with different tricks and ways to be able to visit the park when they will be eligible to visit just six weeks later. Throwing tantrums and doing puzzles to try and cheat the symptom for having to wait six weeks is ridiculous.
I’m not judging anyone for wanting to go to Disneyland.
Californian Elitist
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OMG, do you happen to follow In-N-Out Burger on social media? The comments are EXACTLY like your example here lol. Someone will ask In-N-Out to open up shop in some state or country they’re not currently operating in and someone, usually a Californian, will post a mean response and say “no” or “I hope they never come to your state,” or will tell In-N-Out to never expand (even though they already have). Even worse when someone asks In-N-Out if they ever plan to offer vegan options. The comments are something else.For those exact reasons I’m being very patient towards my first DLR visit & have settled on visiting other parks for this year if I’m lucky to do so. I can’t imagine the first general public guests being too enjoyable or polite after so much time cooped up, I’d rather wait.
The politics of it all has been very amusing. I can already see people on social media bringing out their pitchforks for those out-of-state bloggers. “Disneyland is ours! Not yours, you out-of-statey!” They may even try to build a wall around Disneyland at some point
DavidDL
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My understanding (after spending some time on other Universal forums) is that it is the only one AND it's in fact, required. I believe there is no stand-by option available. I would absolutely download the app if I were you and get a virtual return time the same way you would for Rise of the Resistance. I don't think it's going to be such a pain to try and get one because Pets obviously isn't RoTR, but I have read that times do, eventually, run out.
I've also seen reports that if it's not busy, they will open a stand-by option to Guests. But I don't think its guaranteed. Sorry I can't be of more help, this is all I know.