Californian Elitist
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Valid question. USH is going to be requiring guests to wear masks indoors, hence why the topic came up in this thread.
This conversation should be moved to its dedicated thread though.
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This conversation should be moved to its dedicated thread though.
Tamandua
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Why? I've already had covid. My dad and my sister got the vaccine after already having covid and they had SEVERE reactions... Far worse than covid itself. I'm not putting myself through that so a bunch of covid nazis sleep better at night.
My dad and sister only got the vaccine so that they could go back to normal life...and now they're ed!
My dad and sister only got the vaccine so that they could go back to normal life...and now they're ed!
BasiltheBatLord
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"When community spread ends", again this is a vague and uncertain timeline. You're asking for the entire world to stay on indefinite hold for something which is undoubtedly going to be around forever. For the record I'm not saying that anybody shouldn't get vaccinated or wear a mask. By all means, if you want to be the one wearing a mask for the rest of your life then be my guest. Just don't make anybody else do it.
Tamandua
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Exactly. Let everyone decide for themselves what they need to do to protect themselves and stop bossing everyone else around and treating perfectly healthy people like they have the plague.
October82
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Quite the contrary. "Community spread" is a technical term with a precise and quantifiable meaning. There are many places where community spread has ended and even places where community spread was prevented from the beginning.
Not at all. But this is a great example of trying to bargain with a force of nature. The virus doesn't care if you're tired of wearing a mask, it doesn't care if the "whole world" is on "indefinite hold" and it doesn't care about our disagreements or political division. It just infects people, reproduces, and moves on. And it's going to continue to do that until we care enough to stop it.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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It's really a miracle evolution. A infecting machine. All this machine does is swim and eat and make little viruses
Stevek
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Welcome to the Disneyland Board of WDWMagic...every thread is anything goes.
1HAPPYGHOSTHOST
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SoCalDisneyLover
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I've been saying this Exact thing since March 2020. And you don't know how your body is going to react until you catch it.
i think universal studios hollywood needs a lot of work. most rides are meh at best to me. Jurassic Flume is great, SLoP is a welcome darkride addition, and Waterworld is an amazing show, but the rest is...Mummy is ok but its so dated and the movie wasnt even good. NintendoLand should be a slam dunk but thats looking worse and worse the more I learn about it. I hope they do something big sooner than later.
Californian Elitist
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Decent attempt at trying to get this thread back on track.
PostScott
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i wouldve went with the Sutton Foster version lol
Nintendoland was supposed to be their answer to DLs galaxy edge and avengers campus but honestly its gonna fall flat. The land as a whole is really cool but the two attractions are very lackluster. Universal did just clear out a bunch of land to the west of the studio, probably to build more sound stages. If that's true then the lower lot could have the potential to add more attractions that could really make the attraction lineup more diverse and modern. Can't wait for HHN but I'm not that excited for USH's close future.
socalifornian
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Would have been nice if they chose to do SLOP and Yoshi. Kinetic energy > Panda Express
BasiltheBatLord
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Last response I'll make to not further derail this thread:
Community spread ended in some places and has now come back cause of the new variant, as I'm sure you're aware. Every piece I have ever read about COVID by epidemiologists has suggested that there is every reason to expect that COVID will become a seasonal virus like the flu.
Yes, I suppose if you went full authoritarian and decided to lock everybody down, force mask mandates for everybody with no concrete timeline and created a new class system based around vaccination status (and assuming the populace actually agreed to this without revolting), then maybe a COVID-less future is possible.
But it should be plainly obvious to anyone who's been paying attention that such a future is not going to be successful, nor are its virtues even apparent. The better option is to provide the public with as accurate and up to date resources and information as possible and then allow individuals to make the choices that make the most sense for them. A lot of people are going to make choices that you aren't happy about, but that's the price you pay for living in a free society.
October82
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Sure, while debatable, there's also a major caveat here. Seasonality in Covid infection rates has to do with the dynamics of transmission. Whether we see widespread community transmission or isolated spread is entirely up to us. Superimposed upon that basic reality, we'll see other patterns in who is infected and when. That doesn't mean there isn't a significant and quantifiable difference between infection rates in populations that have high vaccination rates and in populations with low vaccination rates. That difference is between Covid as one of many infectious diseases to be aware of, but one does not constitute a major threat to public health. That's the bar to clear, and it is a clear and unambiguous one. As we both agree, many free societies have already achieved that bar or will do so soon.
Again, this is just more bargaining with nature, not a serious and measured response to our shared reality. Our options are not authoritarian style measures or chaos. We can do basic, commonsense, things - those things we've already been doing for the last several months. Universal masking, alone, projects to save something like 10-20,000 lives over the next 6 months in California. You're right - that needless loss of life doesn't make me happy.
Other developed, liberal, free market economies will achieve the necessary vaccination rates in the next few months. If we don't do so, it's not because we chose freedom over the alternative, it's because we lacked the will and the desire to face up to our problems. It's up to us to decide if we want to be free from Covid.
TP2000
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I doubt it. So far the Orange County Board of Supervisors hasn't touched this topic. It appears to be an LA thing only.
Riverside, Ventura and San Bernardino Counties are also staying mum.
A very knowledgeable reporter on KFI today said that his sources claimed this LA County mask mandate was only supposed to "teach them a lesson" to the poor and communities of color in LA County who are resisting vaccination.
If Governor Newsom hadn't cancelled the Four Tiers To A Safer Economy ratings several months ago, Orange County would currently be up in the Orange Tier and heading to the Red Tier this week. That would close restaurants again and shut down theme parks in Orange County.
But Newsom cancelled the Four Tiers months ago. It's over. And yet, the numbers are currently in Orange Tier headed to Red Tier for OC. Disneyland should be closed for the safety of the children and grandma. But it's not.
Funny how that works when there's a Recall Election looming, isn't it?
OC sees jump in COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations
The county's average daily new case rate jumped
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TP2000
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It's at this point that I feel it's important to remind our non-SoCal friends here what a big deal Los Angeles County is.
It's dozens of cities, not just the city of Los Angeles that sits within the much larger county. LA County has a population of 10.1 Million people, or twice the population of New Zealand. LA County is 4,700 square miles, or over twice the size of Delaware or just slightly smaller than the state of Connecticut. LA County has a GDP of $707 Billion, slightly larger than the GDP of Switzerland.
Los Angeles County is big. It's sprawling. It's densely populated. It's very rich (and yet crawling with homeless). It's powerful and influential.
And now it's masked up again.
It's dozens of cities, not just the city of Los Angeles that sits within the much larger county. LA County has a population of 10.1 Million people, or twice the population of New Zealand. LA County is 4,700 square miles, or over twice the size of Delaware or just slightly smaller than the state of Connecticut. LA County has a GDP of $707 Billion, slightly larger than the GDP of Switzerland.
Los Angeles County is big. It's sprawling. It's densely populated. It's very rich (and yet crawling with homeless). It's powerful and influential.
And now it's masked up again.
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ToTBellHop
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If anyone wants to go to CA’s theme parks, I guess they better come before 9/14…I doubt it. So far the Orange County Board of Supervisors hasn't touched this topic. It appears to be an LA thing only.
Riverside, Ventura and San Bernardino Counties are also staying mum.
A very knowledgeable reporter on KFI today said that his sources claimed this LA County mask mandate was only supposed to "teach them a lesson" to the poor and communities of color in LA County who are resisting vaccination.
If Governor Newsom hadn't cancelled the Four Tiers To A Safer Economy ratings several months ago, Orange County would currently be up in the Orange Tier and heading to the Red Tier this week. That would close restaurants again and shut down theme parks in Orange County.
But Newsom cancelled the Four Tiers months ago. It's over. And yet, the numbers are currently in Orange Tier headed to Red Tier for OC. Disneyland should be closed for the safety of the children and grandma. But it's not.
Funny how that works when there's a Recall Election looming, isn't it?
OC sees jump in COVID-19 cases and hospitalizations
The county's average daily new case rate jumped
Californian Elitist
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Let’s be real, we’re all pathetic for spending so much time in one day on this forum talking about Disneyland, masks, and how there is no freedom and liberty.
Honestly.
Honestly.