Alcohol in the Magic Kingdom

matt9112

matt9112

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Bandini said:
Yes, but the problem is that there are some parents who ignore their little snowflakes, regardless of how disruptive their behavior is. On top of that, the restaurant management is too chicken to confront the neglectful parents. So everyone's evening is not quite so peaceful.
So, I think there should be adult only venues.
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I would rather the former as in management runs a tight ship and parents learn they are not invincible. Granted beyond alcohol Walt Disney world enforces very little....for example there are dress codes but would you even know that? Or just look at basic activity in the parks....saw two Brazilians drinking beer in the toy Story que last time for example.
 
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Bandini

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matt9112 said:
I would rather the former as in management runs a tight ship and parents learn they are not invincible. Granted beyond alcohol Walt Disney world enforces very little....for example there are dress codes but would you even know that? Or just look at basic activity in the parks....saw two Brazilians drinking beer in the toy Story que last time for example.
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I do think that guests have this, "what are you going to do about it" attitude. It's the reason I would like to see people with kids being prevented from entering certain restaurants/bars.
 
21stamps

21stamps

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Bandini said:
I do think that guests have this, "what are you going to do about it" attitude. It's the reason I would like to see people with kids being prevented from entering certain restaurants/bars.
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Right on. To further that point- kids should be prohibited from any dining establishment that offers alcoholic beverages. From Chili/Applebee's/Olive Garden to Cheesecake Factory/Maggianos to The Melting Pot/PF Chang's to any steakhouse. Sitting next to a tantrum throwing or misbehaving child would wreck someone's time, I wouldn't enjoy it for sure.
The best solution to prevent that is to obviously ban children altogether. Parents should not allow their kids to go anywhere besides Chuck E Cheese or McDonalds until they're 18. (Maybe 16?). That way no one could ever be inconvenienced because a few times misbehing kids could be near you.

Side note- Hopefully you realize that this philosophy is exactly the same as saying alcohol should be banned from an establishment because sometimes people abuse it, and sometimes they act foolish and cause a negative impact on your experience.

Let's ban everything and anything that could possibly have potential to effect someone else because of the minority who "act out" and actually do effect someone else.
 
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drizgirl

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21stamps said:
Right on. To further that point- kids should be prohibited from any dining establishment that offers alcoholic beverages. From Chili/Applebee's/Olive Garden to Cheesecake Factory/Maggianos to The Melting Pot/PF Chang's to any steakhouse. Sitting next to a tantrum throwing or misbehaving child would wreck someone's time, I wouldn't enjoy it for sure.
The best solution to prevent that is to obviously ban children altogether. Parents should not allow their kids to go anywhere besides Chuck E Cheese or McDonalds until they're 18. (Maybe 16?). That way no one could ever be inconvenienced because a few times misbehing kids could be near you.

Side note- Hopefully you realize that this philosophy is exactly the same as saying alcohol should be banned from an establishment because sometimes people abuse it, and sometimes they act foolish and cause a negative impact on your experience.

Let's ban everything and anything that could possibly have potential to effect someone else because of the minority who "act out" and actually do effect someone else.
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Or better yet, just throw a fit that they won't let your kid into a couple of adult lounges at WDW.
 
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Bandini

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drizgirl said:
Or better yet, just throw a fit that they won't let your kid into a couple of adult lounges at WDW.
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Last time I was at DCA, we were seated next to a couple with a toddler and an infant in Carthay Circle restaurant. While we were trying to enjoy our meal in an elegant qiuiet restaurant, the toddler was running around screaming and pulling on the velvet draperies while his father chased him. Meanwhile the mother decided to change the infant's diapers at the table.
In this type of a restaurant, I don't think children under 10 should be allowed. Not because of the children, but because of their parents.
 
21stamps

21stamps

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Bandini said:
Last time I was at DCA, we were seated next to a couple with a toddler and an infant in Carthay Circle restaurant. While we were trying to enjoy our meal in an elegant qiuiet restaurant, the toddler was running around screaming and pulling on the velvet draperies while his father chased him. Meanwhile the mother decided to change the infant's diapers at the table.
In this type of a restaurant, I don't think children under 10 should be allowed. Not because of the children, but because of their parents.
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You just completely verified my last comment. Because "this one time..", because of some people in extreme scenarios, you want to ban all.
Exactly the same thinking as alcohol in the MK or the attacks on F&W. There is no difference between the 2. When we get in to the "ban all bc of a few" then that's a dangerous line to cross. It's also a scary one.

Have to get back to figuring out this stupid drone. Hope you're having a Very Merry Christmas!!
 
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Bandini

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21stamps said:
You just completely verified my last comment. Because "this one time..", because of some people in extreme scenarios, you want to ban all.
Exactly the same thinking as alcohol in the MK or the attacks on F&W. There is no difference between the 2. When we get in to the "ban all bc of a few" then that's a dangerous line to cross. It's also a scary one.

Have to get back to figuring out this stupid drone. Hope you're having a Very Merry Christmas!!
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Actually, that's the way life works whether you like it or not. That's the reason there's a TSA.
 
Disney Analyst

Disney Analyst

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Look to Europe when it comes to alcohol. If you create stigmas and prohibition you make the issues worse. People always want what they're told they can't have. Here in Canada even, my parents exposed me to alcohol when I was a kid, a little glass of wine at Christmas (which I found disgusting), and it took the mystery away.

I didn't truly start drinking until I was of legal age (19 here) because my parents smartly taught me about it, let me try it, and took the power away of a young kid being defiant one day for the thrill of it. I knew what it was, and I had no interest in really getting into it until at the correct age.

We can't bubble wrap the world. It doesn't work. I'd rather they sell alcohol at the parks and let parents talk to their kids about it. Disney should get stricter with drink sales at certain parks however. Create a maximum you can drink and scan tickets to verify. No need having obtuse drunks around.
 
beertiki

beertiki

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I think my entire vacation has been ruined more times by bratty kids with alpha hotel parents than demon possessed alcoholics. What it really boils down to is, I can punch a drunk if he is out of line, and everyone says "good job", including all the wannabe tough guys who claim that they were getting ready to do the same thing. I don't wish I could trip your kid running all around me, or pour hot sauce in his screaming mouth. I just want to smack the father in the mouth and enjoy my steak and beers. Maybe you should take your kid to a more kid friendly destination...

like Key West!
 
GoofGoof

GoofGoof

Premium Member
21stamps said:
Right on. To further that point- kids should be prohibited from any dining establishment that offers alcoholic beverages. From Chili/Applebee's/Olive Garden to Cheesecake Factory/Maggianos to The Melting Pot/PF Chang's to any steakhouse. Sitting next to a tantrum throwing or misbehaving child would wreck someone's time, I wouldn't enjoy it for sure.
The best solution to prevent that is to obviously ban children altogether. Parents should not allow their kids to go anywhere besides Chuck E Cheese or McDonalds until they're 18. (Maybe 16?). That way no one could ever be inconvenienced because a few times misbehing kids could be near you.
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I'm not actually touching this subject again in any serious way. Just popped in to say you can make all those places kid zones and I wouldn't care except for the steakhouse. I do like the Southwest Eggroll app at Chilis and the DanDan Noodles at PF Changs but the rest are just meh. Most fine Steakhouses are pretty much kid free anyway. If kids aren't actually banned people know better than to bring there kids in.
 
Luxe

Luxe

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21stamps said:
Right on. To further that point- kids should be prohibited from any dining establishment that offers alcoholic beverages. From Chili/Applebee's/Olive Garden to Cheesecake Factory/Maggianos to The Melting Pot/PF Chang's to any steakhouse. Sitting next to a tantrum throwing or misbehaving child would wreck someone's time, I wouldn't enjoy it for sure.
The best solution to prevent that is to obviously ban children altogether. Parents should not allow their kids to go anywhere besides Chuck E Cheese or McDonalds until they're 18. (Maybe 16?). That way no one could ever be inconvenienced because a few times misbehing kids could be near you.

Side note- Hopefully you realize that this philosophy is exactly the same as saying alcohol should be banned from an establishment because sometimes people abuse it, and sometimes they act foolish and cause a negative impact on your experience.

Let's ban everything and anything that could possibly have potential to effect someone else because of the minority who "act out" and actually do effect someone else.
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Do you actually read posts before you respond to them or?

:banghead:
 
flynnibus

flynnibus

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Bandini said:
Last time I was at DCA, we were seated next to a couple with a toddler and an infant in Carthay Circle restaurant. While we were trying to enjoy our meal in an elegant qiuiet restaurant, the toddler was running around screaming and pulling on the velvet draperies while his father chased him. Meanwhile the mother decided to change the infant's diapers at the table.
In this type of a restaurant, I don't think children under 10 should be allowed. Not because of the children, but because of their parents.
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You shockingly see or hear from people who have seen the worst possible scenarios....
Quite the lightning rod you seem to be...
 
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Bandini

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flynnibus said:
You shockingly see or hear from people who have seen the worst possible scenarios....
Quite the lightning rod you seem to be...
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Well Flynnibus, you always seem to imply that someone is lying when it doesn't suit your agenda. You're quite the diviner of truth.
But you know what? Your opinion doesn't change my experience.
 
janoimagine

janoimagine

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Bandini said:
Last time I was at DCA, we were seated next to a couple with a toddler and an infant in Carthay Circle restaurant. While we were trying to enjoy our meal in an elegant qiuiet restaurant, the toddler was running around screaming and pulling on the velvet draperies while his father chased him. Meanwhile the mother decided to change the infant's diapers at the table.
In this type of a restaurant, I don't think children under 10 should be allowed. Not because of the children, but because of their parents.
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I have seen adults at Carthay act far worse to the staff and patrons than the kids and parents in the situation you just described.
 

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