I think this is the first thing we've disagreed on. I believe you when you say T is capable of behaving in adult like settings, I really do. My own child was like that. She was well behaved and I could bring her anywhere. She also ate all kinds of food, not just kids meals.
We flew to London when she was 6 and when we landed SEVERAL passengers approached me saying they didn't even know she was there and thanked me!
Back to my point..there will always be kids who can behave and act right...but there will ALWAYS be kids who can't and THAT'S what everyone here wants to avoid. We've all been somewhere where a parent just lets the kid act like an animal and doesn't have enough common sense to get up and leave with them. Can't happen if they're not allowed in there in the first place.
First of all, let me put this out there, I am NOT at all saying that my child walks around with a halo on his head (except for last night during his Christmas play
) The horns come out sometimes..and when they do, we aren't going to dinner anywhere. Lounge atmosphere or not.
Just using my own personal example here, and maybe I'm alone in this, but I would think there may be some other similar families..
You watched my crazy planning for this trip.. I ended up canceling 90% of it. I chose lobster sliders by the pool over 1900 PF brunch, Territory Lounge over Chef Mickey, the Afternoon Tea (that I spent two months trying to get) for GF Cafe Take Out and many more. Here's why- last year we packed in the character meals 1-2 per day over 9 days, 3rd day- meltdown, luckily in the room..but it was full on toddler style meltdown, the first I had seen in years. This prompted me to have my own meltdown, leaving a sleeping tear stained child in bed and me sobbing in the restroom. I looked at our plans on while on ME, I missed the stupid "welcome" sign (which apparently upset my kid) and I was afraid of a repeat of 2015.
There's days when after the park I just didn't feel like either of us could handle getting ready and rushing to a reservation, sitting for a long time to be seated, and then be a loud atmosphere as we just were at the park. The lounges provide us with a place to relax, have a beverage, eat good food, and then leave within 45-60 mins at most. It actually felt like a "real" vacation. On our Chef Mickey night kiddo surprisingly said he didn't want to go, a few hours before the reservation. So I cancelled, we stopped in Territory Lounge, shared 2 apps, and then went and changed into our bathing suits, getting pizza later on when we were a little more hungry after the pool. That evening couldn't have happened with Chef Mickey's..and sure, we could have gone to Roaring Fork to begin with, but it's also, loud, hectic, and no mixed drinks for me.lol The lounges provide another dining option without having to stick to a strict schedule, I would hate to see that go away. I don't think parents should camp out in a lounge for multiple hours, but if you're there for 1 drink and an app then I don't believe the child is causing a problem. Their $11 drink is the same price as someone's beer, and their food is the same price as anyone else's. The server's tip isn't effected either. I said earlier in this thread, by not offering children's menus you are already eliminating several families...the same way that most nice steakhouse are never "over run" with kids. Sure, a few may be in one, but they will most likely never be the majority.
I'm fine with a few adult only places, I don't agree that children shouldn't be in any of the lounges at all.
Right, because the dining plan is far below you... only for peasants and poors. Gimme a break, do you even read your posts before you type them or do you just verbal diarrhea onto your keyboard?
I did the DDP last year and ended up paying oop on several meals..didn't do the math, and don't care to, but have no idea if I used it correctly or not. This year I have an AP, several restaurants have discounts with the AP, DDP didn't make sense. I did have it for the last 3 nights of our trip unfortunately...at checkout I was left with - 3QS, 1 TS, 3 Snacks. So basically I just threw money away for no reason. Do the dining plan if it suits you, it didn't suit me this past trip.