A YouTube themed area...

[WondersOfLife]

Weren't you like 7 then?

Doesn't mean you can look up some old videos and see the dates..?

 

[WondersOfLife]

...Practicality is still lacking. I just simply cannot see it.

That's alright. I don't think most of the people here really are seeing it from my point of view anyways. Which is why I wanted to delete it in the first place XP

 

[lazyboy97o]

Kind of more like something to see that a large group of people are into. Many various exhibits themed to different youtube channels and videos. It's just something you have to be into I guess. Think of it like the older Hollywood Studios attractions...

"Who wants to be a millionaire play it" or "American Idol Live" for people who have always wanted to be in one of those game shows or see how different version of film-making can be done such as special effects or green screen usage and such. An example could be somewhere I saw a video on Youtube where kids would sit on top of a bee model in front of a green screen acting like they're jerking around and then the video pops up as if they were in the movie.

Or interactive exhibits that would be themed around Nigahiga's "how to be gangster/ninja/ect" videos. I was just thinking about how fun all of these different exhibits would be and all of the possible events that could happen.

A big reason the studio concept for attractions has died is because it's hard to make a guy sitting in front a computer exciting. It's even less exciting when the tools being employed start with those included for free on most consumer computers. Platforms like YouTube have been able to explode because they removed the barriers of entry.

 

[spectromagic04]

Weren't you like 7 then?

I was 10, but really didn't start watching their videos until I made my own channel 5 years ago. You could tell by watching one of their newer videos to their original videos how much the channel has deteriorated.

 

[englanddg]

I can see how that would have happened. I discover AVGN first a couple of years ago and Nostalgia Critic like last year. Watched every one of his reviews, I never cared for the rest of Channelawesome reviewers though.

It makes sense to try testing YouTube again, considering that many other channels are doing the same thing as he originally did without having problems.

No. NC is trying to do just what happened with you. Attract new viewers. It's advertising for their main site (which is still largely hosted through blip, though some of the crossover reviewers are still keeping youtube as their primary home because that's where they started, like mikejeavons, rerez and the new redheaded girl (sorry, her name slips my mind)...

Their recent updates have mostly been old NC content for the most part.

They don't care if the videos get flagged or not.

That said, youtube has also tweaked it's fair use policies and bots a lot in 5 years. Part of that has led to AngryJoe, for example, splitting partially from ChannelAwesome.

 

[WondersOfLife]

No. NC is trying to do just what happened with you. Attract new viewers. It's advertising for their main site (which is still largely hosted through blip, though some of the crossover reviewers are still keeping youtube as their primary home because that's where they started, like mikejeavons, rerez and the new redheaded girl (sorry, her name slips my mind)...

Their recent updates have mostly been old NC content for the most part.

They don't care if the videos get flagged or not.

That said, youtube has also tweaked it's fair use policies and bots a lot in 5 years. Part of that has led to AngryJoe, for example, splitting partially from ChannelAwesome.

Okay okay, that makes sense. I knew that there was a gap on YouTube for some time.. I didn't know that that was the cause of the reason though!

 

[englanddg]

Okay okay, that makes sense. I knew that there was a gap on YouTube for some time.. I didn't know that that was the cause of the reason though!

AVGN went to screwattack and blip, then broke off and created his own site that he literally for a while hosted out of his garage...

Then he dod the kickstarter and made the movie (when

 

[WondersOfLife]

AVGN went to screwattack and blip, then broke off and created his own site that he literally for a while hosted out of his garage...

Then he dod the kickstarter and made the movie (when

Which then leads the official YouTube classic gaming and movie reviewers to people like Lord Karnage and JeremyJahns. (not as good, but still pretty good)

 

[englanddg]

AVGN and Nostalgia Critic had a massive impact of the game and review genres on youtube, and their departure left a huge void which others filled.

Then you have sites like albinoblacksheep and newgrounds that influenced a lot of the other genres (smosh, for example, came from Newgrounds).

And, the aggregators like ebaums, break and collegehumor all had their own impacts as well.

Youtube grew organically, and due to various reasons (monetization policies being among them), had a lot of content creators sucked into it from around the web.

Point is, none of this is "new". Theres a history to it.

 

[WondersOfLife]

Point is, none of this is "new". Theres a history to it.

I could argue that certain comedic channels like NigaHiga are pretty original.. The channel of NigaHiga became popular through lip-sync videos. Hah! Pretty funny actually

 

[englanddg]

I could argue that certain comedic channels like NigaHiga are pretty original.. The channel of NigaHiga became popular through lip-sync videos. Hah! Pretty funny actually

Lip sync videos...new, and yet...not new.

This is from...2004, and was one of the first videos to go "viral" to the point where the national media took notice. And, it broke on newgrounds, iirc...because, youtube didn't exist back then.



That said, this was the first viral "meme" to break into the national consciousness.



That was in 1996. It was used in TV commercials and even on a popular sitcom at the time. But, it was made for the web.

NigaHiga is along the lines of PhillyD and Swoozie anymore, and the early parts of DeStorm's career before he moved more into a producer / consultant (as I understand, that's what he's doing now).

There's a lot of great content creators. But, to @CaptainAmerica's point, they really don't have a very wide appeal. And, that appeal starts to wane in the mid-20s (which is why you see a lot of the vloggers drop off or change their channel formats as they get older).

And, then you have channels like Smosh, who are trying to stay relevant to their target audience of pre-teens and teens...trying too hard imho... (really need to just go ahead and unsubscribe from them).

 

[englanddg]

And, as I have now gone on at length on this topic, I think you can better appreciate the sarcasm in my post on page 1.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

There's a lot of great content creators. But, to @CaptainAmerica's point, they really don't have a very wide appeal. And, that appeal starts to wane in the mid-20s (which is why you see a lot of the vloggers drop off or change their channel formats as they get older).

Right. And that audience is not only narrow but it's the worst place to try and monetize, especially for a family-oriented company like Disney. Parents won't spend as lavishly on their teens as they will on their smaller children, and the teens (and 20-somethings) have no "grown-up money" of their own.

 

[WondersOfLife]

Right. And that audience is not only narrow but it's the worst place to try and monetize, especially for a family-oriented company like Disney. Parents won't spend as lavishly on their teens as they will on their smaller children, and the teens (and 20-somethings) have no "grown-up money" of their own.

You forget about the huge amounts of school bands, cheerleading competitions and a few other teen-oriented events that take place at Disney as well like Night of Joy and summer camps. I have not met a single person in my entire area yet between the ages of 12 and 21 who don't spend hours and hours on YouTube.

 

[englanddg]

On the topic of lip sync videos...this is from 2003. From albinoblacksheep.



It's been copied by lots of more "modern" youtubers who want the clicks, and realize their audiences probably have no idea that it even existed (it didn't port to youtube as a direct upload ever...people ripped it and uploaded it later).

And then you've got this guy. Weebl. Probably one of the most amusing animators ever on the web.



He's recently made a comeback, with stuff that he did in 2002 and 2003 now reaching "viral status" again.

You may recognize this, as it recently re-went "viral" again, after nearly 15 years, thanks to Sprint using it in a commercial.



Again, he's from newgrounds.

Noticing a pattern here? (grin)

 

[CaptainAmerica]

You forget about the huge amounts of school bands, cheerleading competitions and a few other teen-oriented events that take place at Disney as well like Night of Joy and summer camps. I have not met a single person in my entire area yet between the ages of 12 and 21 who don't spend hours and hours on YouTube.

I get it. I'm not doubting its popularity. I'm saying there's a lot that needs to happen before "hours and hours" translates to "dollars and dollars."

 

[englanddg]

I get it. I'm not doubting its popularity. I'm saying there's a lot that needs to happen before "hours and hours" translates to "dollars and dollars."

Well...online, it does. Not sure how well that would translate to a real world experience though.

 

[lazyboy97o]

You forget about the huge amounts of school bands, cheerleading competitions and a few other teen-oriented events that take place at Disney as well like Night of Joy and summer camps. I have not met a single person in my entire area yet between the ages of 12 and 21 who don't spend hours and hours on YouTube.

YouTube though is not one thing like a normal television channel. It is fragmented and not analogous to watching hours of ABC, ESPN or Disney Channel.

Even if the demand was there for something based around a content creator, why bother licensing a name from Google?

 

[englanddg]

YouTube though is not one thing like a normal television channel. It is fragmented and not analogous to watching hours of ABC, ESPN or Disney Channel.

Even if the demand was there for something based around a content creator, why bother licensing a name from Google?

Well, again, thats where they could possibly leverage the Maker brand, but right now these higher profile youtubers have busy schedules with cons and the like anyhow, where they do speaking panels.

 

[WondersOfLife]

YouTube though is not one thing like a normal television channel. It is fragmented and not analogous to watching hours of ABC, ESPN or Disney Channel.

Even if the demand was there for something based around a content creator, why bother licensing a name from Google?

That's kind of like telling an even older generation that TV is better than a radio. Back when magazines and newspapers predicted that the television wouldn't be a success because "people wouldn't want to stare at a lighted box for hours"

If YouTube ever has a presence in any theme park, even as small as a gift shop, I'm calling it.