A Terror-rific Spirited 13th (ToT fans have lots to fear)...

[HMF]

Of Whom we have the second coming of in Chappie

Indeed,Though in this day and age putting people in charge who have no experience in the things they are in charge of seems to be the course we are going.

 

[Travel Junkie]

Disneyland stop acting like a budget destination when they're pulling dailies of 25,000 and acting like it's "off peak". Disneyland's lack of entertainment is just as embarrassing, if not worse than WDW's attraction count.

The WDW vs DLR arguments are always good for a laugh, but your entire post was hilarious and this was particularly so. The entertainment was all around you. There's constantly bands and other entertainment options all over the park all day long. Even with F! down due to construction right now there is more than enough to see and do.

DLR has negotiated with the city about the fireworks. Long story short they CAN'T shoot off fireworks 365 days a year, year after year, so they do it when it is the busiest which is weekends, holidays, and summer and special occasions like the 60th.

DLR caters to their audience as does WDW. Different demos so you have different ways of doing business. People should stop expecting the two resorts to act the same. They aren't and that's a good thing.

 

[HMF]

DLR caters to their audience as does WDW. Different demos so you have different ways of doing business. People should stop expecting the two resorts to act the same. They aren't and that's a good thing.

Indeed, they are not the same but when the quality of one (WDW) is inferior to the other,(DLR) people are going to notice.

 

[Travel Junkie]

Indeed, they are not the same but when the quality of one (WDW) is inferior to the other,(DLR) people are going to notice.

I would argue that DLR's entertainment far exceeds WDW's. When you talk to people that prefer Disneyland over WDW one of the things they specifically point to is the entertainment. Superior quality and the fact that it is everywhere. The difference is at DLR the entertainment feels more organic. Entertainment just happens much more when you are walking around. If you are too busy to notice because you are going from ride to ride you can't then complain there is no entertainment. There is you just missed it.

And that is part of the difference between WDW and DLR. WDW with FP+ and uber planners going from ride to ride and show to show on a strict schedule. DLR is more laid back and the entertainment reflects that attitude.

 

[HMF]

I would argue that DLR's entertainment far exceeds WDW's. When you talk to people that prefer Disneyland over WDW one of the things they specifically point to is the entertainment. Superior quality and the fact that it is everywhere. The difference is at DLR the entertainment feels more organic. Entertainment just happens much more when you are walking around. If you are too busy to notice because you are going from ride to ride you can't then complain there is no entertainment. There is you just missed it.

And that is part of the difference between WDW and DLR. WDW with FP+ and uber planners going from ride to ride and show to show on a strict schedule. DLR is more laid back and the entertainment reflects that attitude.

I think you mis-read my post. I am saying that DLR in general is a better quality product than WDW in most cases.

 

[Disney Analyst]

It's actually embarrassing that between 4 parks that's all the attractions the Mecca of Disney has... yes the original park with a sister park pretty much matches/exceeds.

Fantasyland has more attraction then DAK or DHS at Disneyland... pathetic.

 

[Californian Elitist]

For those who take issue with Disneyland vs WDW for "attractions"

Entertainment is a major attraction for most people. In fact, there are those (like me and my wife) that are perfectly happy going to any of the WDW parks and not riding almost anything. We've had countless times where we've gone to EPCOT for a festival (mind you, we don't drink) and just watched Illuminations. We saw Ashley Brown & Josh Strickland the other night and didn't ride a thing. We did Hollywood Studios last Saturday and while we ended up riding Tower of Terror and Star Tours, we were really just there for the Frozen Sing Along (the male storyteller who has been there since day 1 is a riot, still going strong), Fantasmic and the Star Wars nighttime show. We frequently visit Magic Kingdom and Animal Kingdom for shows/animals too. When we used to live closer to the parks and didn't have to deal with gate blockouts, we would stop by to just catch Wishes and Spectromagic.

Now lets compare that to Disneyland Resorts abysmal entertainment. For the last 15 years, Fantasmic has been in and out of mothballs. For most of that time, the show would abruptly shut down for the entire fall period or from Jan-Jun for no reason. Even during Spring and other busy times, we were LUCKY to get Fantasmic Fri-Sun. This went on for most of the late 90's and has continued for the most part up till today. I appreciate the updates and all, but I'd much prefer it being shown nightly throughout the year like DHS's version has been for most of its life. I'm sure visiting guests appreciate being able to see DHS's lesser Fantasmic on a nightly basis compared to getting an upgraded one that spends 1/2 of the year not showing. Wishes is 365 days a year except for ticketed events (boo!), whereas tonight (and most "off peak" weeknights) there are no fireworks and it's been that way for 20 years at Disneyland. There is also no day parade at Disneyland today, nor is there one at DCA. World of Color has one showing, as does MSEP. It's lucky that I'm posting this today and not on a Tuesday or Wednesday, when the majority of stage shows have "gone dark" for 20+ years every two days a week. Mickey and the Magical Map (which is fab) is also dark throughout the week during "off peak". Even during busy periods there are few fewer show times compared to WDW's stage shows.

We made the mistake of assuming that Disneyland had cleaned up their act on this stuff last year without thinking about show schedules (we don't need to check them here, as most stuff is just daily throughout the year) and we ended up missing a large portion of DLR's entertainment because of it. Every day, you have the castle show, a day parade, fireworks (and night parade nightly for decades up till MSEP left), you have Fantasmic, Frozen, Beauty and the Beast, Indy Stunt Show, the Star Wars show (previously lights motors action as well), Lion King, FInding Nemo, and all of the EPCOT entertainment. This stuff doesn't have an "off peak", and it doesn't "go dark" during the week even during peak times like Disneyland does.

To conclude, I certainly agree that DLR has way more rides, but if you consider entertainment especially DAILY entertainment, WDW crushes DLR. Sure, I'd like to see more rides at WDW's parks, but I'd also like to see Disneyland stop acting like a budget destination when they're pulling dailies of 25,000 and acting like it's "off peak". Disneyland's lack of entertainment is just as embarrassing, if not worse than WDW's attraction count.

There's PLENTY of entertainment at the DLR. That's undeniable. Don't be disappointed because you happened to somehow miss everything.

 

[CJR]

This doesn't include major live entertainment in the parks like parades, water shows, and fireworks. Nor does it include minor park entertainment like bands, characters, streetmosphere, or dancing (Disneyland only).

Also, don't forget that a good chunk of the same rides are actually (arguably) superior at DL. PotC, FL dark rides, Space Mountain, etc, are all better done at DL.

 

[Bocabear]

OK I will agree in general, but WDW's Spcae Mountain (Aside from needing some work done to smooth out the track) has always been the better version...Also WDW's Splash Mountain is better...but most everything else I will agree is better at Disneyland...

 

[SorcererMC]

Getting new Yetis for the Matterhorn isn't exactly related to safety though. That one particularly is a mighty big thorn in any WDW fan's side.

Rohde on instagram last night:

The Natural History Museum of London. Where I had the pleasure of seeing a very large animated
figure that worked perfectly well. I'm just saying…
​

(I already posted this in the Expedition Everest Effects Watch thread, but adding it here since it seems apropos).

​

 

[Rodan75]

That would require Iger to actually have emotional investment in his product which is a crazy concept for him.

Agreed, with everything but Star Wars. You can see it, he is a nerdy fanboi for Star Wars. It is the only thing over his tenure that he seems passionate about. (of course 'passion' in terms of deviation from his normal measured composure)

I like the guy (which puts me at odds with 75% of other posters here), but even I can admit that the guy never really seemed to have a passion for Disney. He could have easily taken over Sony, Viacom, CBS or Time Warner, without ever feeling like he was missing anything.

 

[FigmentJedi]

Agreed, with everything but Star Wars. You can see it, he is a nerdy fanboi for Star Wars. It is the only thing over his tenure that he seems passionate about. (of course 'passion' in terms of deviation from his normal measured composure)

Please, Bob's a filthy casual that probably doesn't even know anything that goes on in the franchise outside the movies.

He has a passion for Star Wars in the sense that he's passionate about how much money they can make off of it.

 

[CJR]

OK I will agree in general, but WDW's Spcae Mountain (Aside from needing some work done to smooth out the track) has always been the better version...Also WDW's Splash Mountain is better...but most everything else I will agree is better at Disneyland...

It's definitely, like anything, perspective based. I find the ride experience better at DL, the execution better at WDW (two tracks vs one). I think if TDO would put some money behind our Space Mountain for real upgrades, it would be no contest.

 

[HMF]

Also, don't forget that a good chunk of the same rides are actually (arguably) superior at DL. PotC, FL dark rides, Space Mountain, etc, are all better done at DL.

Not to mention they still have all their FL Dark Rides, They were not torn out for meet & greet space.

 

[HMF]

OK I will agree in general, but WDW's Spcae Mountain (Aside from needing some work done to smooth out the track) .

Uh, No.

 

[CJR]

Not to mention they still have all their FL Dark Rides, They were not torn out for meet & greet space.

Which is actually hilarious when you think that Magic Kingdom is significantly bigger than DL and has much more room to build a proper M&G space. I still find it funny that we even need a set M&G space to begin with. Perhaps I'm too old school though for the modern child, haha.

 

[HMF]

Please, Bob's a filthy casual that probably doesn't even know anything that goes on in the franchise outside the movies.

See-Dumping the Expanded Universe.

 

[ford91exploder]

Rohde on instagram last night:

The Natural History Museum of London. Where I had the pleasure of seeing a very large animated
figure that worked perfectly well. I'm just saying…
​

(I already posted this in the Expedition Everest Effects Watch thread, but adding it here since it seems apropos).

​

Whoops that's a 'Career Limiting Move' if I ever heard one...

 

[Princess Leia]

See-Dumping the Expanded Universe.

Ngl, part of me is hoping that Laura Dern's character turns out to be Mara Jade. Will it happen? Probably not, since the EU was turned into non-canon, but it'd be kind of cool to see.

 

[FigmentJedi]

See-Dumping the Expanded Universe.

That was Lucasfilm's decision, right from when George wanted to start making movies again and being decided about a year before the buyout. It had just become too big to manage and all the spots on the map filled in. And even before that, the writing was on the wall when the CG Clone Wars started overwriting EU stories.

What we have now with Lucasfilm Story Group and the new continuity is a greater effort to keep things coordinated, cohesive and interconnected across different media. Story crumbs introduced in comics before being brought into films and television. We just had a character introduced in a cartoon show up in a movie. And while the old EU is ended, you have bits and pieces being reintroduced and brought into new stories.