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A Spirited Valentine ...
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ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Considering the quality of the Star Wars offerings so far (Launch Bay, Star Wars Fashion Show) I'm not hopeful for what would be considered a 'quality' product. There is ZERO justification the poor quality of the offerings especially in the Launch Bay where Disney has every prop at Skywalker Ranch at their disposal and cannot even come up with a decent display, Or taking enough time to properly do the walls with the integrated lighting as seen on Imperial space vessels (just painted black bars on the wall).
I'm not a SW Fan I simply enjoyed the films and even I notice the 'missing' details.
BlindChow
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Hmm, not exactly the same thing. The tales of Sindbad are akin to fairy tales and are well-known (as witnessed by the numerous movie adaptations thru the decades). It is decidedly not about an Arabian singer traversing the world, making music with strange creatures and an adorable tiger.
Small World, on the other hand, was developed specifically with a singular message of international unity; in fact, it's right there in the name!
Still, I get what you're saying as far as Disney experiences go. Perhaps it's more akin to the differences between Phantom Manor in Paris and the Haunted Mansions in the states. One is a tragic tale of horror, the other is a light (if macabre) fantasy about ghosts. I can see how people who liked one of them would not appreciate their ride being transformed into the other...
Still, there was nothing else in the world like the old Sindbad.
It was truly a one-of-a-kind attraction. It's unlikely we will ever see its ilk again. I'm lucky I was able to experience it when I did... 
[Incidentally, here's a fascinating bit of history: Disney stalwart Ub Iwerks independently produced a Sinbad the Sailor animated short in 1935.
It's available to view on Wikipedia, for those interested:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:SinbadTheSailor.ogv ]
HMF
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That is not dialouge from the movie. Also The "Sacred" original Trilogy has some of the shoddiest pieces of dialouge in cinematic history. You really think Star Wars is supposed to be "Citizen Kane"?
misterID
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My big concern with a project this big is how bloated WDI works and how things get scaled back because of wasted money, which is baffling considering what penny pinchers Disney is to allow WDI to operate the way they do... Pandora was supposed to have three rides, a coaster... Hope it doesn't get whittled down.
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EricsBiscuit
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looks like Walter White from Breaking Bad
That mustache is right out of the late 70s and I love it.
Kman101
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Clearly you aren't and that's fine. But Launch Bay and the lame offerings now are hardly a judge for the land, but you do you
Kman101
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While I'd normally agree, they already whittled it down. They didn't go with the third attraction, which was transportation in the land. The two e-ticket buildings are going up. Not really sure what could be whittled away at at this point anymore. The theming will be great and the rides, for all accounts from our insiders, will be top notch. But we'll see. I understand having reservations and I'd normally share them, but for some reason I don't with SWL.
jakeman
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I guess it's a small victory it's even being acknowledged it's being built. This far along into Pandora, even with pictures, we were still being regaled with tales of no construction happening.Clearly you aren't and that's fine. But Launch Bay and the lame offerings now are hardly a judge for the land, but you do you
I just spent a couple of days in Pandora and can tell you definitively that no construction is happening over there.
HMF
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Well it seems obvious to me that WDI has a real problem when it comes to long-term thinking.
FigmentJedi
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MAZ: I have Luke's Lightsaber, but I'm not gonna tell you how I got this thing that fell into a massive pit hanging over a gas giant.
GINGER HITLER: I'M GOING TO BLOW UP THE GOVERNMENT BECAUSE REASONS WE NEVER REALLY ESTABLISHED IN THE FILM ITSELF BEYOND COPYPASTING THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY'S FACTIONS. BUY THE BOOKS TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE POLITICAL SITUATION IN THE GALAXY EVEN IS BECAUSE JJ CUT THOSE SCENES OUT BECAUSE HE DIDN'T WANT ANYTHING TO SEEM PREQUEL-Y.
SOME RESISTANCE GUY: The First Order blew up the Republic Capitol planet that wasn't Coruscant because Lucasfilm didn't want JJ and Simon Pegg's petty Prequel hate to lead them to doing something even stupider then creating the Mega Death Star.
Blindchow: 10/10 bestest movie ever. Give me more reheated leftovers JJ.
Castle Cake Apologist
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I honestly couldn't care less about Star Wars if I tried my hardest. It's just not my cup of tea. At all. Like, not even remotely.
However, even I am getting kind of excited for this land. Alcatraz sounds like it's going to be a true game changer of an attraction, and the level of immersiveness that we're hearing about sounds completely unprecedented. I fully expect this to be on the level of Pandora, maybe even higher.
the.dreamfinder
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They certainly have an accomplice in management, both in Orlando and Burbank. What happened to 5 year plans? 10 year plans? 20 year plans? Being a reactionary in the theme park business, as Disney is now, will poison their future. P&R might be doing very well now with high guest spending and turning the parks into the Disney store, an interchangeable and disposable IP showcase, not theme parks. But theme parks are a generational business. UNI, hardly perfect, understands this and is making moves with HP and Nintendo to form deeper generational connections with guests, like Disney used to. Plus, Comcast is all about playing the long game so the pressure won't stop even as they make mistakes like VB.
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ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Clearly you aren't and that's fine. But Launch Bay and the lame offerings now are hardly a judge for the land, but you do you
My point is and always has been WHY the lame offerings, This is DISNEY not some mom-n-pop operation, The preview offerings don't have to be elaborate but they should offer a 'taste' of what the quality of the new land will be they don't even have to BE the same things that will be in the land, as an engineer I can tell you quality is a MINDSET it's not something that can be added at a later date.
Look at any interior shot of a Imperial Spacecraft the walls have lights which extend out of the wall, This could have been done easily with a vacuum molding machine. The cantina scene is beyond pathetic.
It's the DETAILS which have always defined Disney and this shows Disney no longer CARES about the details. But Itz Staa Warz and for that simple fact Disney is counting on the rubes to pile in no matter how poorly executed the land is.
Kman101
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Yes what's offered now is lame. Most have said it is. I think it is.
The land won't be poorly executed.
Prince-1
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HMF
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I just hope Rian Johnson gives us something original rather than an Empire Rehash. Also, I found a lot of the overt Nazi-symbolism with the First Order to be quite tasteless.