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Princess Leia

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Going to try to stop the prequels vs originals vs sequels/Rogue One talk right now.

Princess Leia presents...
The Worst Dialogue from each Star Wars movie (only including one Jar-Jar quote, though I could fill this thing with them if I wanted).​

Episode I: “Yousa thinking yousa people ganna die?” ......... Ugh.

Episode II: “I’m haunted by the kiss that you should never have given me.” (fun fact- there's a youtube parody musical called 'Ani', written by the group behind 'A Very Potter Musical', and this quote is used to create a song)

Episode III: "Love won't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can do that."

Rogue One: "This is a rebellion isn't it? I rebel."- I know this was cut from the movie, but it still makes me cringe.

Episode IV: "But I was going into Tosche station to pick up some power converters!" (Maybe not an awful quote, but Hamill really sold the whininess here)

Episode V: ... I've got nothing. If someone can think of a bad quote from this movie, let me know.

Episode VI: "I wish I could go with you-" "No, you don't". (Not bad quotes, per say, but the delivery was off).

Episode VII: "Today is the end of the Republic. The end of a regime that acquiesces to disorder. At this very moment in a system far from here, the New Republic lies to the galaxy while secretly supporting the treachery of the rogues of the Resistance. This fierce machine which you have built, upon which we stand will bring an end to the Senate, to their cherished fleet. All remaining systems will bow to the First Order and will remember this as the last day of the Republic!" (just a little too hammy)
 

HMF

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Going to try to stop the prequels vs originals vs sequels/Rogue One talk right now.

Princess Leia presents...
The Worst Dialogue from each Star Wars movie (only including one Jar-Jar quote, though I could fill this thing with them if I wanted).​

Episode I: “Yousa thinking yousa people ganna die?” ......... Ugh.

Episode II: “I’m haunted by the kiss that you should never have given me.” (fun fact- there's a youtube parody musical called 'Ani', written by the group behind 'A Very Potter Musical', and this quote is used to create a song)

Episode III: "Love won't save you, Padme. Only my new powers can do that."

Rogue One: "This is a rebellion isn't it? I rebel."- I know this was cut from the movie, but it still makes me cringe.

Episode IV: "But I was going into Tosche station to pick up some power converters!" (Maybe not an awful quote, but Hamill really sold the whininess here)

Episode V: ... I've got nothing. If someone can think of a bad quote from this movie, let me know.

Episode VI: "I wish I could go with you-" "No, you don't". (Not bad quotes, per say, but the delivery was off).

Episode VII: "Today is the end of the Republic. The end of a regime that acquiesces to disorder. At this very moment in a system far from here, the New Republic lies to the galaxy while secretly supporting the treachery of the rogues of the Resistance. This fierce machine which you have built, upon which we stand will bring an end to the Senate, to their cherished fleet. All remaining systems will bow to the First Order and will remember this as the last day of the Republic!" (just a little too hammy)
Whats sad is the quote from VII was the most exposition given in the entire movie.
 

britain

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Episode VII: "Today is the end of the Republic. The end of a regime that acquiesces to disorder. At this very moment in a system far from here, the New Republic lies to the galaxy while secretly supporting the treachery of the rogues of the Resistance. This fierce machine which you have built, upon which we stand will bring an end to the Senate, to their cherished fleet. All remaining systems will bow to the First Order and will remember this as the last day of the Republic!" (just a little too hammy)

Not sure if you should use a 'speech' as an example of the movie's dialogue.
 

Princess Leia

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Whats sad is the quote from VII was the most exposition given in the entire movie.
Well, there are also all of the "Snoke this" and "Snoke that" bits, as well as something along the lines of "You must kill Han Solo, your father" (idk, I haven't watched the movie in awhile).

Not sure if you should use a 'speech' as an example of the movie's dialogue.
I'll throw in "Do you have a boyfriend? Cute boyfriend?" and "Where's my boyfriend?"

I know that 'girlfriend' was used in Attack of the Clones, but at least that didn't feel as forced.
 

HMF

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Well, there are also all of the "Snoke this" and "Snoke that" bits, as well as something along the lines of "You must kill Han Solo, your father" (idk, I haven't watched the movie in awhile).

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The movie felt like it should have been Episode VIII since so much of the core plot seems to have happened off-screen between Jedi and Force Awakens.
 

Princess Leia

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The movie felt like it should have been Episode VIII since so much of the core plot seems to have happened off-screen between Jedi and Force Awakens.
They cut an opening scene with Leia talking to a Senator. It dropped a lot of exposition in a short period of time, but a) the movie kind of needed those details so we would care about all of the planets being blown up, and b) it would have given Leia more screentime.
 

FigmentJedi

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They cut an opening scene with Leia talking to a Senator. It dropped a lot of exposition in a short period of time, but a) the movie kind of needed those details so we would care about all of the planets being blown up, and b) it would have given Leia more screentime.
Specifically, it was the woman that gets the closeup as the Starkiller beam hits the planet. She was Leia's representative for the Resistance in the Senate, which for the most part, kept ignoring her concerns about the threat the First Order posed as the ramblings of a paranoid warmonger. Leia lost a ton of her credibility when a rival politician/First Order sympathizer ended up leaking to the Galaxy at large that Darth Vader was her father to destroy her chances in an election for some "First Senator" position.
 

HMF

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They cut an opening scene with Leia talking to a Senator. It dropped a lot of exposition in a short period of time, but a) the movie kind of needed those details so we would care about all of the planets being blown up, and b) it would have given Leia more screentime.
Why do I get the feeling that JJ and Pegg thought anything that even tangentially referenced the Prequels was a stain on their "precious" movie. It really feels like they made a bunch of stuff up and just handed it to the story group to make sense of it all.
 

Princess Leia

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Specifically, it was the woman that gets the closeup as the Starkiller beam hits the planet. She was Leia's representative for the Resistance in the Senate, which for the most part, kept ignoring her concerns about the threat the First Order posed as the ramblings of a paranoid warmonger. Leia lost a ton of her credibility when a rival politician/First Order sympathizer ended up leaking to the Galaxy at large that Darth Vader was her father to destroy her chances in an election for some "First Senator" position.
The close up doesn't mean as much without knowing the whole backstory. When I saw the movie, it felt off. I could tell that I was supposed to care about her for some reason, but it wasn't until the deleted scene/book details came out that it made sense.

I know it's too late to include details from VII in VIII, but I'm hoping that VIII bridges the rest of the gaps between the OT and the ST.

That's something that I think was done well in Rogue One. It took place about 20 years after III, but it made enough references to the past to catch everyone up to the present.
 

Princess Leia

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Why do I get the feeling that JJ and Pegg thought anything that even tangentially referenced the Prequels was a stain on their "precious" movie. It really feels like they made a bunch of stuff up and just handed it to the story group to make sense of it all.
It's probably why it got cut, tbh. They didn't want the political discussions (which also happened in Return of the Jedi, just not like the prequels) to remind people of the prequels, even though Leia was a Senator in ANH, so it wouldn't be out of character for her to talk about work.
 

HMF

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The close up doesn't mean as much without knowing the whole backstory. When I saw the movie, it felt off. I could tell that I was supposed to care about her for some reason, but it wasn't until the deleted scene/book details came out that it made sense.

I know it's too late to include details from VII in VIII, but I'm hoping that VIII bridges the rest of the gaps between the OT and the ST.

That's something that I think was done well in Rogue One. It took place about 20 years after III, but it made enough references to the past to catch everyone up to the present.
Which is why R1 was a FAR superior movie to The Force Awakens.
 

Princess Leia

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Which is why R1 was a FAR superior movie to The Force Awakens.
I love Rey to pieces (bought a costume for Halloween last year, probably going to use it again this year), but I also prefer Rogue One to TFA. R1 gets an A+ from me, but TFA has now sunk to somewhere between a B- and a B.
How is this not an upgrade?
I still wish the Solo movie wasn't happening, but I trust Ron Howard. He's been with Lucas (and Lucasfilm) for decades.
The only Ron Howard film I know I have seen is The Grinch which while I liked it as a kid isn't really that great a movie.
Go watch Rush. A+ movie (which got robbed of an Academy Award nomination, probably thanks to the Academy's love of American Hustle that year).
 

FigmentJedi

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Why do I get the feeling that JJ and Pegg thought anything that even tangentially referenced the Prequels was a stain on their "precious" movie. It really feels like they made a bunch of stuff up and just handed it to the story group to make sense of it all.
Because JJ brought his Bad Robot production company into the mix, Lucasfilm lost some control over the final cut. Even the crawl and it's "The Republic totes supports the Resistance" stuff went by without LSG seeing it and it doesn't even use the correct font.
 

HMF

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Because JJ brought his Bad Robot production company into the mix, Lucasfilm lost some control over the final cut. Even the crawl and it's "The Republic totes supports the Resistance" stuff went by without LSG seeing it and it doesn't even use the correct font.
I really hate JJ and Simon with a passion that can shake the stars.
 

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