Mike S
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Universal announces Nintendo. Universal then applies this patent,
Anyone who's played the games then thinks this,
Other people ignore the overwhelming evidence.
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Anyone who's played the games then thinks this,
Other people ignore the overwhelming evidence.
JoeCamel
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I don't think all those people sitting in the street for the parades (remember when they had those?) really care about Dave's feet.
Mike S
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Not to mention how dirty the railings are likely to be.
CaptainAmerica
Premium Member
Read what I wrote. I did not say "not." I said "not necessarily."
Also, if you know what "devil's advocate" means, you'd understand that I was not advocating for the position myself, I was just offering it as a possible counter-point.
Christian Fronckowiak
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- In the Parks
- Yes
Mike S
Well-Known Member
And after seeing that patent and having any knowledge of the series anyone who holds that counterpoint is just lying to themselves. Not to mention it's one of the three heavily rumored rides for the land with one of them already being confirmed officially.
Oh, and recently there's been speculation over on OU that due to whatever factors are in play Donkey Kong may be exclusive to Orlando. Just thought I'd share that
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Or who get on any boat ride where you walk on the seat to get to your spot.
PizzaPlanet
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I hope Retro Studios is involved with this ride. They are the masters of DK Mine Cart levels!And after seeing that patent and having any knowledge of the series anyone who holds that counterpoint is just lying to themselves. Not to mention it's one of the three heavily rumored rides for the land with one of them already being confirmed officially.
Oh, and recently there's been speculation over on OU that due to whatever factors are in play Donkey Kong may be exclusive to Orlando. Just thought I'd share that
Mike S
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Since they've pretty much taken over the series I'm sure they put in some kind of work for a ride. One thing the ride needs desperately is a wise cracking and fourth wall breaking AA of Cranky Kong in the queue. It would just be perfect.
"You young whippersnappers don't know what a good rollercoaster is. Back in my day we had to get out of the cars push them up the lifts ourselves, and we liked it!!!"
Mike S
Well-Known Member
You got any idea how long I've been waiting for this? Let me wish
Rodan75
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You got any idea how long I've been waiting for this? Let me wish
LoL. I'm tempering my expectations...because I want to enjoy it when it opens and not be disappointed.
I'll be pleasantly surprised if the land is organic and not Suess meets Simpsons. I want Mario meets Pandora.
Mike S
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Well that's one thing even I know it won't be. We're going into Mario's world which is extremely different than our own. Very cartoony. The closest series Nintendo has to the real world is Metroid.
It'll still likely be better than those lands though.
flynnibus
Premium Member
In a vacuum... yes. When also developing Nintendo concepts??? There is a bit more focusing it...
AEfx
Well-Known Member
Salt. Wound.
Though, I actually do have hope that they build a new Jaws ride, some day. Technology has gotten better, and it's such a crowd pleaser. It was one of the best rides on the planet because of how "real" it was.
DDLand
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Other thoughts on Nintendo...
I think this land is going to be the most challenging undertaking Universal Creative has ever attempted. This land is gonna be weird. Really really weird. This is like Universal's Avatar. How the heck do you convincingly create floating mountains in a CGI world? Disney tried their hand, and were largely successful. How do you translate a Mario game to the real world? How do you convince people that they are walking in a cartoon world? How do you convince guests that everything they've ever known about reality and every natural law is false? How the heck does this convince people?
Honestly, I don't know how they're going to pull this off. What WDI did when faced with creating the impossible -Pandora- was turn to the real world. They grounded the impossible and otherworldly in reality. That's what made it convincing and real. Can Universal do the same with Nintendo? Will Universal go boldly where they (or anyone) have never gone before?
Super Nintendo World underscores how crappy Toy Story Land is. It's pathetic that Disney is building that land. You don't think kids will be able to tell the difference? Hah.
I'm beginning to think the idea of pitching Nintendo as not a Star Wars Experience competitor makes sense. Nintendo isn't Star Wars. The tone, the gravity of the situations, and audiences are all pretty distinct. I think SWE has more in common with Harry Potter than it does with Nintendo. Nintendo is its own thing. Putting it up against Star Wars Experience will almost undoubtably result in Super Nintendo World getting the short end of the stick. Let it breath.
The jury is still out on how this will translate to Theme Parks...
The timelines for Diagon Alley were incredible, but also more unusual for a land of that caliber. My gut feeling with Super Nintendo World is the complexity of this project is going to mind boggling. I'm expecting this to be boundary pushing in a way that even Diagon Alley wasn't. This is not the translation of an existing space with certain artistic norms, but an environment where rules don't really exist. How do you build a convincing Bowser Castle? How do you make a built environment look like a natural environment in a cartoon world? How do you translate something crazy like Mario Cart, to an attraction?
While Diagon Alley's execution is World Class, they weren't really writing a whole new playbook. Nintendo is completely uncharted territory. Convincing Harry Potter had been done (by the same people tasked with building the next one). Convincing Mario is a whole other ball game.
For those reasons, I'm giving them at least 3 years time to crank these lands out. Especially the first one. Maybe I'm being too conservative, but recreating reality as we know it has got to be a challenge. That's roughly in line with Star Wars Experience at Disneyland too.
Could it open in Orlando 2020? Absolutely. Especially if they get going by the end of the year. Is a 2021 timetable within the realm of possibility? I wouldn't rule it out. Especially if Nintendo Orlando brings original attractions and experiences to the table which could drag out the timeline. It's a flip of the coin dictated by project start and construction time. Late 2020 to mid 2021 are my bets for completion in Orlando.
The Orlando United folk's Japan info was fishy as soon as they announced the "in time for 2020 Olympics. It's worth remembering the Olympics are held late in the Summer. If they were planning a 2019 opening, why would Universal Studios Japan use a reference point that would be nearly a year after opening? Just doing math helps too. Nintendo was announced in 2015 right after they got the rights. Give it about 5 years for these super immersive lands and it falls 2020.
They were off. Though as I said, things have been pretty crazy.
I think this land is going to be the most challenging undertaking Universal Creative has ever attempted. This land is gonna be weird. Really really weird. This is like Universal's Avatar. How the heck do you convincingly create floating mountains in a CGI world? Disney tried their hand, and were largely successful. How do you translate a Mario game to the real world? How do you convince people that they are walking in a cartoon world? How do you convince guests that everything they've ever known about reality and every natural law is false? How the heck does this convince people?
Honestly, I don't know how they're going to pull this off. What WDI did when faced with creating the impossible -Pandora- was turn to the real world. They grounded the impossible and otherworldly in reality. That's what made it convincing and real. Can Universal do the same with Nintendo? Will Universal go boldly where they (or anyone) have never gone before?
Super Nintendo World underscores how crappy Toy Story Land is. It's pathetic that Disney is building that land. You don't think kids will be able to tell the difference? Hah.
I'm beginning to think the idea of pitching Nintendo as not a Star Wars Experience competitor makes sense. Nintendo isn't Star Wars. The tone, the gravity of the situations, and audiences are all pretty distinct. I think SWE has more in common with Harry Potter than it does with Nintendo. Nintendo is its own thing. Putting it up against Star Wars Experience will almost undoubtably result in Super Nintendo World getting the short end of the stick. Let it breath.
The jury is still out on how this will translate to Theme Parks...
The timelines for Diagon Alley were incredible, but also more unusual for a land of that caliber. My gut feeling with Super Nintendo World is the complexity of this project is going to mind boggling. I'm expecting this to be boundary pushing in a way that even Diagon Alley wasn't. This is not the translation of an existing space with certain artistic norms, but an environment where rules don't really exist. How do you build a convincing Bowser Castle? How do you make a built environment look like a natural environment in a cartoon world? How do you translate something crazy like Mario Cart, to an attraction?
While Diagon Alley's execution is World Class, they weren't really writing a whole new playbook. Nintendo is completely uncharted territory. Convincing Harry Potter had been done (by the same people tasked with building the next one). Convincing Mario is a whole other ball game.
For those reasons, I'm giving them at least 3 years time to crank these lands out. Especially the first one. Maybe I'm being too conservative, but recreating reality as we know it has got to be a challenge. That's roughly in line with Star Wars Experience at Disneyland too.
Could it open in Orlando 2020? Absolutely. Especially if they get going by the end of the year. Is a 2021 timetable within the realm of possibility? I wouldn't rule it out. Especially if Nintendo Orlando brings original attractions and experiences to the table which could drag out the timeline. It's a flip of the coin dictated by project start and construction time. Late 2020 to mid 2021 are my bets for completion in Orlando.
The Orlando United folk's Japan info was fishy as soon as they announced the "in time for 2020 Olympics. It's worth remembering the Olympics are held late in the Summer. If they were planning a 2019 opening, why would Universal Studios Japan use a reference point that would be nearly a year after opening? Just doing math helps too. Nintendo was announced in 2015 right after they got the rights. Give it about 5 years for these super immersive lands and it falls 2020.
They were off. Though as I said, things have been pretty crazy.
the.dreamfinder
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It would make sense that they would want to have a long stretch of time before the Olympics to have this land open so Japanese guests can see it before the international guests swarm on the land of the rising sun for the Olympics.
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Phil12
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Or when some people decide to use the seats in the People Mover as a foot stool.
Phil12
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Some people like to sit in the gutter, however, I've never found the need.
Cesar R M
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not 100% sold.. the first seconds look waaaay too much like the book of life.
But I'm liking the design of the land of the death (with nice touches of revolution era buildings)
2351metalcloud
Active Member
This seems like quite an exaggeration. Every 'natural law' wouldn't be false in a Nintendo game. This isn't going to be the first theme park area to make it seem like you are in the world of a cartoon or something like a cartoon. There have been multiple Flinstones theme parks made for instance.
Various parks have been made that are meant to be like the guest is in a cartoon world with varying degrees of thoroughness of theming that didn't cost half of a billion dollars
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