A Spirited Valentine ...

[tmthomas52]

Rehoboth? My family has a house nothat far from there lol

Been there that place is awesome! Have family there as well!

 

[brb1006]

Wow. You have millions upon millions of people watching your videos, including children, and that's what you pull?

Disgusting.

I'm not going to express my opinions on PewDiePie but I have alot of bias against his LPs.

 

[Quinnmac000]

Wow. You have millions upon millions of people watching your videos, including children, and that's what you pull?

Disgusting.

Reasons why its dumb to invest in youtube stars.

 

[brb1006]

First commercial for Avatarland

 

[ford91exploder]

Wow. You have millions upon millions of people watching your videos, including children, and that's what you pull?

Disgusting.

Yes it truly was disgusting, But Pewdiepie/Maker was a bad fit for Disney from the START but because of it's revenue Iger bought it ... Just another shiny object with 'biggest' in the name and he blew a half BILLION dollars on it for essentially nothing, Just take a few pallets of cash some lighter fluid and set it afire which is in effect what Iger did with Maker.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Yes it truly was disgusting, But Pewdiepie/Maker was a bad fit for Disney from the START but because of it's revenue Iger bought it ... Just another shiny object with 'biggest' in the name and he blew a half BILLION dollars on it for essentially nothing, Just take a few pallets of cash some lighter fluid and set it afire which is in effect what Iger did with Maker.

Most "normal" CEO's wouldn't have touched Maker Studios with a 10-meter cattle prod. But with Iger...

 

[csmat99]

Keeping up with the Joneses so to speak, If the hot car this week is a Maserati they will run out and buy one because all the other 'A-listers' have one even though they bought a Ferarri last week which they will sell for pennies on the dollar...

the sad thing is if they have a good business manager they could probably get away with doing stuff like that but they blindly trust people and a lot of business managers only care about themselves and of course some are outright crooks. They get kickbacks having their client invest in another client's business that fails within a year. Only person making out in that deal was the business manager.

 

[The_Jobu]

For the benefit of those of us who aren't "with it", who is this youtube person, what do they have to do with Iger and what's going on?

 

[brb1006]

For the benefit of those of us who aren't "with it", who is this youtube person, what do they have to do with Iger and what's going on?

PewDiePie is a very popular Youtube aka "Let's Player". Lets plays are popular in the Youtube community with channels such as Game Grumps (NSFW),Peanut Butter Gamer and Markiplier. As you can tell PewDiePie along with these guys are more well-known in the video game community with gamers such as me.

 

[ChrisFL]

And video sales will prevent Alice 2, Lone Ranger etc. from losing that much more or zero at all in the long run. Don't worry I agree with you. Pirates if it is not better than every film in the series (besides 1) it probably will probably do 700M, but if it gets like an 80% on Rotten Tomatoes I'll bet money that it will cross a Billion worldwide. This is a critical step in the franchise and I think they havea good shot at doing good, but we truly don't know what will happen.

I knew Tomorrowland, BFG, John Carter, Lone Ranger, Jupiter Ascending (not Disney) etc. were going to flop as you rarely can introduce a new concept without it being good... that goes back to why Alice 1 was a hit because everyone knows Alice in Wonderland. Transformers' audience are mainly teens to 20's who don't really have a taste in movies, or they just want to see action (personally I think it's crazy). It's still insane how a studio can happily write a 200 million check for a sure flop crappy film, yet epic films like Whiplash etc. have such a hard time getting funded by major studios. Again rare is the day that you'll have Transformers or Great Gatsby, but things like the brand, actual actor appeal (looking at you Clooney) like Emma Watson, DiCaprio, or Robert Downy Jr., and a millenial's appeal to the visual effects can make a crappy film get hundreds of millions. As for lower bad films like the ones that are commedies and horror, people just might want to check it out, or they just don't want a serious movie (My Big Fat Greek Wedding 2, which I enjoyed) as you don't always want to go to the theater wanting to be in a wonderfully crafted complex Inception like plot. I mean Pirates almost didn't even happen.

The moral of the story is, I suppose, just wait and see how it does, and Movie Studios are stupid.

Are you implying the Great Gatsby wasn't a good movie?

 

[Daveeeeed]

I actually think everyone involved realizes this. I think they're still hoping they'll be monsters at the box office, but the idea that every sequel will match the heights of a record breaking prequel is unrealistic. Fox hopefully took good notes from Independence Day.

With James Cameron so heavily involved in so many areas, I think the sequels stand a much better chance than Alice 2, which Tim Burton declined. I think that alone makes Avatar's chances for success, as a film series, much higher. It also appears that James is pushing for another round of cinema evolution (I can't for sure remember what, but I want to say it was glasses-free 3D), so it's possible that it could have similar impacts the first film did if people buy into it again. We'll find out for sure sooner or later, I just wanted to point out how the creator involved can also make a difference.

Like Alice though, I have a feeling reviews will be a huge deciding factor for many. The movie needs to be good; not as good as the first (which wasn't really that great anyway), but good.

The first Alice movie was trash. The only thing that kept it watchable was the epic world which it took place in. As for Avatar, I fully agree (as long as it is good) that the Avatar sequels will be very successful, but there's no way it will make as much as the first worldwide, and they've accepted that. It will probably perform ala Alice if it sucks, but I doubt it will and honestly I think it will be an improvement.

 

[Daveeeeed]

Are you implying the Great Gatsby wasn't a good movie?

I shouldn't have compared it to Transformers, but it could have been a LOT better.

 

[MotherOfBirds]

For the benefit of those of us who aren't "with it", who is this youtube person, what do they have to do with Iger and what's going on?

He falls under Maker Studios, owned by the mouse. He has been including a lot of anti-semitic content in his videos recently, and thus Disney has decided to drop him like it's hot.

 

[ford91exploder]

the sad thing is if they have a good business manager they could probably get away with doing stuff like that but they blindly trust people and a lot of business managers only care about themselves and of course some are outright crooks. They get kickbacks having their client invest in another client's business that fails within a year. Only person making out in that deal was the business manager.

Also very true and sad as many child stars have found over the years the business managers stole all the money and left the former star with a huge tax problem

 

[Rodan75]

Most "normal" CEO's wouldn't have touched Maker Studios with a 10-meter cattle prod. But with Iger...

That is simply not true. Media companies have been falling all over themselves to invest in similar YouTube content studios. Disney at least had the wherewithal to limit their exposure with performance based pricing on the acquisition.

 

[britain]

It won't fail, but It's an ending/dying franchise. It sticks out sort of like a sore thumb amongst all the Marvel and Star Wars money makers. It's a different game. I really would be stunned to see a Pirates 6, but man, who knows? I liked the trailer but I had someone with me absolutely stunned Pirates was still around though ...

We've come a long way since 2003-06, when Disney finally ...FINALLY ...had a billion-dollar live-action boy-centric franchise all their very own.

 

[Quinnmac000]

Yes it truly was disgusting, But Pewdiepie/Maker was a bad fit for Disney from the START but because of it's revenue Iger bought it ... Just another shiny object with 'biggest' in the name and he blew a half BILLION dollars on it for essentially nothing, Just take a few pallets of cash some lighter fluid and set it afire which is in effect what Iger did with Maker.

I mean Universal has their own version with AwesomenessTV but that is tied to promoting dreamworks tv and animation and more so like online Disney Channel. But they treat it as Disney Channel not independent youtubers.

 

[ford91exploder]

That is simply not true. Media companies have been falling all over themselves to invest in similar YouTube content studios. Disney at least had the wherewithal to limit their exposure with performance based pricing on the acquisition.

How is spending a HALF BILLION dollars IN CASH limiting your exposure????, Because the label on the channel says 'Maker Studios' instead of Disney?,

All the 'fake news' about Walt being an anti-semite and then Iger goes out and HIRES ONE whose proud of his anti-semitic rants.

Hopefully no one puts Disney and Maker Studios together in the press, otherwise Disney will have another ugly incident to 'splain away.

 

[ford91exploder]

I mean Universal has their own version with AwesomenessTV but that is tied to promoting dreamworks tv and animation and more so like online Disney Channel. But they treat it as Disney Channel not independent youtubers.

I can see wanting to have one's very own YouTube channel, That's perfectly logical and sensible but Maker was a match made in hell just waiting to blow up, First as soon as the Disney deal went through a lot of the maker talent walked out as they got zip from the deal and did not want to be associated with 'Disney'.

Effectively Disney bought Pewdiepie - and now the whole edifice crashes down. Disney spent a half billion for something they could have created for a few million dollars.

 

[AndyS2992]

Alice also probably flopped for these 2 reasons-
1. Competition at the box office (X-Men Apocalypse)
2. Johnny Depp had been accused of domestic abuse like one week before opening.

3. The first one was terrible, people only went to see it because like Avatar, 3D was new and exciting at the time. The second one was equally as bad.