A Spirited Perfect Ten

WDW1974

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Which, of course, is the kind of thing you'd want from a creative. I get that WDW1974 isn't a big fan of the MCU movies, despite liking Ant-Man, but the criticism of Feige seems odd to me considering how much we tend to slam corporate types on these pages. Here's a creative guy, the type that actually makes stuff, is largely being left alone by the suits and is churning out hit after hit. And not just commercially but critically -- every Marvel Studios movie is "fresh" on Rotten Tomatoes and many are very well regarded for the genre.

I would think that Feige having a long term vision and plan would be regarded as a good thing. He's not being reactionary and acting on sudden trends, but is executing a philosophy that is in it for the long haul. Personally, I think that it is fantastic that Disney has someone like him working for them running Marvel Studios and would to have every division having someone with the same passion for their product.

I think Kevin is a good creative guy with a clear vision for his BRAND, no doubt. I think Marvel films are largely formulaic and the bigger the films, the more predictable they are. That's why I loved Guardians of the Galaxy so much and greatly enjoyed Ant-Man as they were a bit more out there.

There's something about his personality that just rubs me the wrong way ... not sure what it is. I also am not overly familiar with his career path (i.e. how he wound up running the show when he's barely 40).
 

ProjectXBlog

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I think Kevin is a good creative guy with a clear vision for his BRAND, no doubt. I think Marvel films are largely formulaic and the bigger the films, the more predictable they are. That's why I loved Guardians of the Galaxy so much and greatly enjoyed Ant-Man as they were a bit more out there.

There's something about his personality that just rubs me the wrong way ... not sure what it is. I also am not overly familiar with his career path (i.e. how he wound up running the show when he's barely 40).
oh man, personally speaking i love his personality. few executive types match the exuberance and enthusiasm that their fans have for their properties. also he reminds me of ed begley jr. which is just a nice thing
 

StageFrenzy

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I think Kevin is a good creative guy with a clear vision for his BRAND, no doubt. I think Marvel films are largely formulaic and the bigger the films, the more predictable they are. That's why I loved Guardians of the Galaxy so much and greatly enjoyed Ant-Man as they were a bit more out there.

There's something about his personality that just rubs me the wrong way ... not sure what it is. I also am not overly familiar with his career path (i.e. how he wound up running the show when he's barely 40).
Asst producer on X-men and luck?
 

FigmentJedi

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There's something about his personality that just rubs me the wrong way ... not sure what it is. I also am not overly familiar with his career path (i.e. how he wound up running the show when he's barely 40).
Intern for the producer of the original X-Men movies that got promoted to associate producer on that because he was a Marvel geek with an extensive knowledge of the lore. X-Men's success ended up impressing Avi Arad and he's been one of the bigwigs of Marvel's film arm ever since.
 

Cesar R M

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The pay differential between US and Germany applies to mid level and hourly workers. The large difference applies to the executive level where US executives make exceedingly more than their German conterparts. Executive compensation disparity the cause of a great deal of friction within what was DaimlerChrysler.
And a fine example of why corporate greed (aka neoliberal capitalism) boasted by Wall Street is as bad as pure socialism imho.
 

WDW1974

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Odd that you stayed til the end if you don't like those extra scenes. Is it because you wanted to see who sang "Love Theme from Ant-man"?

No, it's because I know many people that work in the industry and having lived in LA, I'm used to always staying thru the credits of every film I see to look for names. I view it as a sign of respect for the people who made the film. In LA, everyone stays. Until these little 'extras' started appearing in films (maybe a decade ago?) most folks ran for the exits before the music even began playing. Even now, a good 40% or so will leave immediately and not wait. They actually seem ed when you are on the aisle (as I always am) and you aren't getting up.
 

choco choco

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Seems it's just me, but I'm getting a little tired of that trope. Every Disney (and Pixar for that matter) animated film released since, like, 2010 tries overly hard to make audiences "feel" and it's getting a little too predictable.

Agreed. In fact, nearly every picture with Lasseter's hand in it has the same plot he's been peddling since Toy Story: a combination road picture and buddy flick, where two unlikely characters go on a journey. Exposition is shared. Warm looks are exchanged. Lessons are learned. The strings get all syrupy. Yada yada.

Why Lasseter is trying to make every Disney and Pixar output (and yes, it's both studios. Frozen and Up share the same DNA) into some sort of ported remake of Planes, Trains and Automobiles, I'll never understand. He's homogenized both studios output, and I've become considerably less fond of him these past couple years.
 

PhotoDave219

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No, it's because I know many people that work in the industry and having lived in LA, I'm used to always staying thru the credits of every film I see to look for names. I view it as a sign of respect for the people who made the film. In LA, everyone stays. Until these little 'extras' started appearing in films (maybe a decade ago?) most folks ran for the exits before the music even began playing. Even now, a good 40% or so will leave immediately and not wait. They actually seem ****ed when you are on the aisle (as I always am) and you aren't getting up.

I usually do that but I bailed on Minions fast because I had, uh, other business to attend to.
 

WDW1974

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I'll say again.. the need for growth vs demonstrating healthy sustainability.

The difference between steady healthy return... vs 'always promising more'. If I'm in a business that returns 60% gross margins and 30+% profit... can we not find a happy medium that says 30% return is fantastic and let's stay there. And forget about 'how do we get 30% of a bigger number...'.

If you aren't growing.. you're dying.. should not be a universal rule.. yet we seem to believe that of every public company now.

It's not just that. It's how much growth is enough. Did you see what happened the other day when Apple announced results after the bell rang? After growing by something like 35%, the stock tanked because it wasn't enough?

This bastardized capitalism we have will destroy us as a great nation/society. Enough is simply never enough. And we've convinced the poorest among our ranks that they should argue for the top one percent of the one percent's interests. It is insane. ... Oh, Mr. Robot is on ...
 

ProjectXBlog

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Agreed. In fact, nearly every picture with Lasseter's hand in it has the same plot he's been peddling since Toy Story: a combination road picture and buddy flick, where two unlikely characters go on a journey. Exposition is shared. Warm looks are exchanged. Lessons are learned. The strings get all syrupy. Yada yada.

Why Lasseter is trying to make every Disney and Pixar output (and yes, it's both studios. Frozen and Up share the same DNA) into some sort of ported remake of Planes, Trains and Automobiles, I'll never understand. He's homogenized both studios output, and I've become considerably less fond of him these past couple years.
yeah but if you boil it down to such broad strokes, pretty much every story is about a protagonist who wants something, pays a price to get it, and returns to his old life having changed. plenty of animated movies do the "buddy road trip" formula because it's a great way of a combining comedy with adventure. it's tough to do an in-depth character piece about a fish in a tank
 

Darth Sidious

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It's not just that. It's how much growth is enough. Did you see what happened the other day when Apple announced results after the bell rang? After growing by something like 35%, the stock tanked because it wasn't enough?

This bastardized capitalism we have will destroy us as a great nation/society. Enough is simply never enough. And we've convinced the poorest among our ranks that they should argue for the top one percent of the one percent's interests. It is insane. ... Oh, Mr. Robot is on ...

The missed street estimates crap vs made company estimates es me off. I work on the Street, we aren't all a bunch of fake it until you make it morons I swear!
 

xdan0920

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Note - Apparently S - H - A - G is a curse word? Are those UK rules?

I think the filter does catch UK curse words, yea. I'd test it out, but I only speak American.

Seems it's just me, but I'm getting a little tired of that trope. Every Disney (and Pixar for that matter) animated film released since, like, 2010 tries overly hard to make audiences "feel" and it's getting a little too predictable.

I don't get your complaint. You think it's predictable that PIXAR makes movies that cause the audience to have emotional reactions? I think it's predictable that comedies try to make me laugh. Horror flicks try and scare me. PIXAR makes (mostly) very good movies. They have their poignant moments, there comedic moments, dramatic, tense, they run the gauntlet. Is that predictable, I guess. I just don't see how it can possibly be construed as negative.
 

WDW1974

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you mean they might be manipulating the data to inflate MK's attendance vs real attendance?

Disney doesn't announce actual gate counts. Even TEA calls its figures estimates. Disney doesn't explain the entire first click deal. It doesn't say whether cast comps are counted. Whether hard ticket events (now about 50-60 nights a year) are included.

I will never believe that the MK sees more people annually than TDL does. I just won't. ... and those 10 million alleged visitors at TPFKaTD-MGMS?!?! Sure. Those numbers are real ...
 

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