A Spirited Perfect Ten

WDW1974

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Original Poster
Didn't they used to think about those things?

Sightlines don't matter. Theme doesn't matter. Sense of place doesn't matter. Design basics don't matter.

It is god-awful ... and to hear fanbois who think they 'get it' proclaim its grandeur is a little disgusting.

So ... wait, Shonda killed McDreamy off last night?!! I gave up on that show 3-4 years ago because there was way too much death and this is typical of that.
 

FrankLapidus

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If they would go with darker themes and aim to be edgy and boundary pushing to aim for that BBFC 15 rating, then they would be doing some good.

But then again I will gladly pay money to go to see Minions, cause those film know exactly what they are to be upbeat and funny.

Why on earth would WDAS and Pixar aim for a 15 rating? Is this really a serious suggestion and/or complaint?
 

truecoat

Well-Known Member
I had a bit of a non-MAGICal experience at said location on Sunday night. Oops, not there, but the bar next door. We were seated enjoying a beverage and then talking and a CM came over and basically said to 'move your @rses away, we have a private group that has rented this area moving in, even though we're open for another 3.5 hours'. I think we should have complained at Guest Relations and demanded a free dinner with drinks at the Brown Derby for being treated like we didn't matter (PML fodder or not?)

Had the same thing Happen to me in Oct @ DL. Ordered some food from a QS and sat in a closed restaurants patio which by the sign stated we could. Waitress came out and said her mgr would make us leave if we didn't now.
 

truecoat

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Sightlines don't matter. Theme doesn't matter. Sense of place doesn't matter. Design basics don't matter.

It is god-awful ... and to hear fanbois who think they 'get it' proclaim its grandeur is a little disgusting.

So ... wait, Shonda killed McDreamy off last night?!! I gave up on that show 3-4 years ago because there was way too much death and this is typical of that.

Worst hospital on the planet.
 

truecoat

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I get it. They own it. But other than reporting the earnings during a shareholders' call, they pretty much leave both properties to be their own entities. The Disney logo didn't appear until the very end of the credits in the last few Marvel films, and there has never been a Disney logo on a Star Wars film.

I actually don't know what to expect when Star Wars 7 opens. The Fox fanfare transitioning to the Star Wars them is engraved in my memory.

Here's what to expect...

 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I had a bit of a non-MAGICal experience at said location on Sunday night. Oops, not there, but the bar next door. We were seated enjoying a beverage and then talking and a CM came over and basically said to 'move your @rses away, we have a private group that has rented this area moving in, even though we're open for another 3.5 hours'. I think we should have complained at Guest Relations and demanded a free dinner with drinks at the Brown Derby for being treated like we didn't matter (PML fodder or not?)
Standard practice in that case should be offering a move to an area that's not reserved and to buy a round of drinks for the group. It sometimes happens that they need a table or a room, but as a paying customer they should have offered you something for your trouble.
 

Goofyernmost

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I was never using the 'f-word' at the top of my lungs while walking thru World Showcase or out of Disney-MGM.
Drink has nothing to do with that. Sober those F-words are flowing like water. This society no longer has any pride in itself. It has resorted to shock wording to disguise their complete ignorance of what is right or anything else for that matter. Makes them feel like big shots and free spirits and are positive that they are leading some sort of charge against society. Something has to hold them over until the next welfare check comes in. Even someone as old as I am were youth at one point in time and thought it was so "grownup" to use the word. But, we did have enough common sense to know that there were times when all it did was make us look like illiterate fools. Even then, in some cases, we were shooting ourselves in the foot.

My father once backhanded me into last week for using the "F" word in public. Shocked, you bet, especially since I had no idea what it meant at the time, but, I never forgot it and I now know my audience and hopefully have enough class to refrain from adolescent behavior drinking or dry. However, that is no longer the norm. Now the word is used more in the language then the word the! I for one will be glad when that fad ends. I'm not shocked or offended, I just know that there is a time and a place for everything. A huge public place comes to mind as not the place or the time.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Standard practice in that case should be offering a move to an area that's not reserved and to buy a round of drinks for the group. It sometimes happens that they need a table or a room, but as a paying customer they should have offered you something for your trouble.

Why should they where are you going to go, To Moe's Bar and Grill across the street, Yes I'm being snarky but WDW has a new mindset that the guests will just have to take whatever WDW dishes out because they are 'locked in' ie consumers not CUSTOMERS who can take their business elsewhere.

It's one reason I rent a car - I'm no longer 'locked in' at WDW, Yes I know cars are available for rent at the Car Care Center and the SWolphin but how many WDW guests know that little tidbit.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
Why should they where are you going to go, To Moe's Bar and Grill across the street, Yes I'm being snarky but WDW has a new mindset that the guests will just have to take whatever WDW dishes out because they are 'locked in' ie consumers not CUSTOMERS who can take their business elsewhere.

It's one reason I rent a car - I'm no longer 'locked in' at WDW, Yes I know cars are available for rent at the Car Care Center and the SWolphin but how many WDW guests know that little tidbit.
Maybe I misunderstood the story. I thought he said that the table or area where he was sitting was going to be used for a private party so they asked his group to move to another area in the same restaurant. If the entire restaurant was closing then there isn't much they can do.
 

Phil12

Well-Known Member
One could talk about hubgrass forever, but I really want to know what that mysterious Gary Snyder is up to in China.
Indeed as the victim of mysterious forces that quashed his Op-ed for nefarious reasons, you'd think he would have found another media venue to espouse his undeniable truth concerning TWDC entry into China.
 

asianway

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Nothing wrong with drinking at WDW. I had more alcohol over five days than I likely had in the two months prior combined. But I never was drunk. I was never obnoxious (leave this one for my pals here). I was never using the 'f-word' at the top of my lungs while walking thru World Showcase or out of Disney-MGM.

The behavior has changed. Part of this absolutely has to do with Disney shilling booze in a way that it only used to do for timeshares. George Kalogridis and Co absolutely want you to know that getting tanked is part of a MAGICal WDW vacation (to be fair, though, after seeing the new Hub or riding one of the MK attractions, drinking is a very logical option for those who don't smoke for medicinal reasons!)

Again, THIS would be a story for the O-Sentinel, but Soup & Salad Sandra won't touch it. What has happened to journalism in this country? (rhetorical, as I know!)
While you have focused on SnS Sandy and her predecessor Jason Garcia...you miss a big part of the problem. D-Wayne the theme park ranger who covers the WDW beat from the experiential side is as big a W**** as any of them. I've never seen a negative word and he keeps heaping praise on new summer offerings like new lumberjack games & monorail silver mugs.
 

stevehousse

Well-Known Member
So ... wait, Shonda killed McDreamy off last night?!! I gave up on that show 3-4 years ago because there was way too much death and this is typical of that.

As someone who has watched from the beginning, even though there were a few seasons that were not good, this was by far the worst episode of the entire series and a slap in the face. I know he wanted off the show and was reluctant to sign on for more seasons (which he did, 2 more) and to go and do that the way they did was just stupid. I wouldn't have had a problem if they had given him a proper send off like they did to Christina, but the way they did it was just awful. Even if you don't follow the show anymore, you should still watch this episode.
 
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