A Spirited Perfect Ten

LuvtheGoof

LuvtheGoof

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AEfx said:
Well, to be honest, I didn't understand what you meant. The majority of the work is done. They can gussie it up but it is what it is. And it took way too long for such a landscaping project, an embarrassing amount of time considering what a classic vista it's supposed to be and the magical "center" of the MK experience.

In any case, I can't reciprocate and share my feelings on you because I have none - I don't have the faintest clue who you are, or why you are so aggressively snarky yourself in choosing to reply to me, but if you have any more personal comments might be best to direct them to me privately.
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Sorry, wasn't meant to be snarky, and I apologize for coming off that way. No, the project is not even half completed as of yet. They are just starting the areas next to the Adventureland and Tomorrowland pathways. I agree that it is taking a lot longer to accomplish than it probably could, but others have explained that they did not work very much each night for several weeks due to the spring break crowds. Maybe it will move faster now.

Part of the problem I have with people - not just you - complaining that the hub doesn't look like it did 20 years ago, is that it is NEVER, no matter who is in charge, going to go back to the way it was, so why not look at it for what it is. There are many planting beds with flowers and plants. There are even fountains. They have created continuous benches surrounding the areas, instead of individual benches. There will be trees as well. Maybe not where you want them to be, but they will have them. The work that they have done so far looks to be high quality work, and when a few issues were noticed, it seems that they fixed them right away.

I guess my main point is that you are trashing something that is not going to change back to the way it was, so you might as well enjoy it for what it is.

I know that everyone is certainly entitled to their opinion, and y'all have yours, but it just seems to me that you are wasting you time complaining about something you don't like, when there is zero chance that it is going to change to your liking. I would much rather take time to complain about something that I can change.
 
CaptainAmerica

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
Iwerks64 said:
You're absolutely right. None of the claims mention RFID. Only in the description does it say "In one embodiment, the tags are Radio Frequency Identification (RFID) tags". But the claims are all important when prosecuting IP infringement.

Looking at the claims, claim 1 holds priority (all other methods are dependent upon claim 1). I'm not sure Disney will have a hard time defending against this. Remember - you have to do all of the steps in claim 1, or else you don't infringe. Some people who are more familiar with the operational aspects of MyMagic+ may know more, but -

Claims(9)
1. A method for gathering and validating attendance data, including the steps in the order of:
providing a plurality of uniquely encoded tags, the tags adapted to be borne by an attendee;

Yep, MagicBands are a plurality of tags worn by a park guest. Got 'em here

scanning the plurality of tags as the attendees pass into an attendance area without manipulation of the scanner or the tag;

This part I'm not sure on. Don't you have to physically place your MagicBand in proximity to the scanner as you enter the park? I would interpret that as "manipulation of the tag".

creating a provisional attendance report at least partially from information acquired by the scanner from the tags;

I would assume Disney creates an attendance report from based on that entry data. Check.

said creating step including the step of comparing a class list of who is expected to be in attendance with a present list of which tags of the attendees are scanned in the attendance area by said scanning step to determine who on the class list is absent;

This may be another area that Disney doesn't step on. Are they comparing a list of who they expect to be in attendance? With multi-day entry, I don't see that this is valid. It could be simply a way to state that it checks to see who has valid entry. Maybe a gray area.

communicating the provisional attendance report to an attendance tracker individual in the attendance area;

The attendance report has to be sent to a person in the area. This could be broadly defined as to what constitutes the "attendance area".

personally visually inspecting the attendance within the attendance area by the attendance tracker regardless of whether any expected attendees are absent in the provisional attendance report;

Sounds like the person who is getting the report needs to be able to physically observe the guests. This could be an easy way to get around the Incom patent.

identifying differences between the provisional attendance report and results of said inspecting step; and
modifying the provisional attendance report to correct the differences of said identifying step to establish a second attendance report, the second attendance report being more accurate than the provisional attendance report.

So, the physical inspector is helping to look for discrepancies in the attendance report (maybe looking for "gate jumpers") and correcting the report. These are pretty specific operational aspects of the way the attendance report is treated. Again a fairly easy way to get around the patent.

I'm not sure Disney has much to worry about. This patent is fairly restrictive in it's claims.
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Yeah there's no way. Worst case scenario is that Disney has to modify their internal reporting a bit. Many of the points talk about comparing expected attendance with actual attendance but it's phrased in such a way that they seem to be talking about individuals. It says "who [emphasis mine] is expected to be in attendance," not just what the attendance total was projected to be.

So it's fine for Disney to say "we projected attendance of 50,000 and only 47,000 showed up," but I don't think they'd be able to say "we expected Bob Jones and his family of six to be at the Magic Kingdom, but Bob Jones went to Animal Kingdom with his wife, and his other family members went to Epcot."
 
71jason

71jason

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WDW1974 said:
BTW, any feelings on Rocco's Tacos? They started down this end of the state and seem very popular with the Lifestylers (I am assuming they gave free grub to them when they opened). I wanted to try the Dr. Phillips one, but ran out of time.
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Fun place, decent food and good bartenders, gets packed out on the weekends. Crowd definitely skews more toward Dr Phillips and whatever we want to call the young professional enclave growing up around Universal Blvd and Westwood Blvd*. It seems like the kind of place that would send the average lifestyler scurrying back to Trader Sam's. I've never run into too many lifestylers anywhere on Sand Lake Road, really.

* - haven't seen this discussed anywhere, but in the 6 years since I lived up that way, both those areas have been overrun with Gen Y "Yuppies" living in $1200+ apartments. Clearly they aren't CMs--not even WDW management can afford that. I don't know where they work, or why they chose to live in this area (my guesses are downtown/Millenia, and because still relatively cheaper, but pure speculation). But they are a huge reason I think I-Drive's nightlife district is poised to explode. In any case, what a decade ago was primarily WDW employees/fanbois and cattle fields is now something very different.
 
71jason

71jason

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WDW1974 said:
I had a bit of a non-MAGICal experience at said location on Sunday night. Oops, not there, but the bar next door. We were seated enjoying a beverage and then talking and a CM came over and basically said to 'move your @rses away, we have a private group that have rented this area moving in, even though we're open for another 3.5 hours'. I think we should have complained at Guest Relations and demanded a free dinner with drinks at the Brown Derby for being treated like we didn't matter (PML fodder or not?)
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At the very least, should've offered to comp your drinks.
 
CaptainAmerica

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
WDW1974 said:
Again, it's the people who don't know better who book a FP to meet Cindy, a FP to ride the Mad Tea Party and a FP to view the MSEP who are getting screwed by this. And many are first-timers who won't return.
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Most depressing FP+ lineup ever? Dumbo, Pooh, and Mermaid. And that's how I spent my day last Tuesday. WDW with an infant is a joy and a pleasure.

We really had an awesome time but my soul died a little bit every time I saw that lineup on my MDX.
 
CaptainAmerica

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
PhotoDave219 said:
Dear college program kids....

Please. You're not park entertainment. You're not part of the show. There's no need to have your own show tunes being sung in the new gardens over by Casey's.

Fine, dress up. Look nice. disneybound your sweet cheeks off. But please. For the love of almighty God, you're not an entertainer.

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I really hope nobody reports that for language. It's gold.
 
ABQ

ABQ

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PhotoDave219 said:
Dear college program kids....

Please. You're not park entertainment. You're not part of the show. There's no need to have your own show tunes being sung in the new gardens over by Casey's.

Fine, dress up. Look nice. disneybound your sweet cheeks off. But please. For the love of almighty God, you're not an entertainer.

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Pics or it never happened.


j/k, please don't provide any proof.
 
LuvtheGoof

LuvtheGoof

DVC Guru
Premium Member
PhotoDave219 said:
All I can speak about is what I saw with my own eyes today.
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I understand that Dave, but it is quite obvious that the project is not complete, and that the video Disney released shows a whole lot of trees, even in the central hub area.

And if, since Disney has released that video, there are no trees when the project is completed, I will lead the charge with pitchforks raised to City Hall to complain!
 
PhotoDave219

PhotoDave219

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LuvtheGoof said:
I understand that Dave, but it is quite obvious that the project is not complete, and that the video Disney released shows a whole lot of trees, even in the central hub area.

And if, since Disney has released that video, there are no trees when the project is completed, I will lead the charge with pitchforks raised to City Hall to complain!
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There's some trees.... Just not like east side of the park by Space Mountain...
 

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