ford91exploder
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In the real world no it does not, At Disney however...
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In the real world no it does not, At Disney however...
gmajew
Premium Member
It just goes to show you how stupid they are. One of the reasons why comic book movies are as successful as they are now is because women are going to them. Go to any comic con and it is mind blowing how many women are there compared to 5-10 years ago. Women are the largest growing segment of this market. Disney is ignoring this demographic at there own peril. I see so many young women walking around with Wonder Woman and Harley Quinn apparel. They should have had a whole line of Black Widow and Scarlett Witch apparel at Hot Topic or another retailer. But that wouldn't fit in there BRANDS plan.[/QUOTE]
You mean she should have more then hawkeye? She should be used more no doubt about it but they are not neglecting her as everyone is making it out to be.
Comics have always targeted the boys.... By the way they are drawn to have just a enough sex appeal to them to everything they have always gone after the male market.
Woman should not be included in this as well and marketed towards as well but the first audience is going to be males. No matter what they do that is the facts....
Here is a link of the stuff not he marvel site she has as much as hawkeye..... http://shop.marvel.com/black-widow/...earchTerm=black+widow&catalogFromSearch=10002
gmajew
Premium Member
It just goes to show you how stupid they are. One of the reasons why comic book movies are as successful as they are now is because women are going to them. Go to any comic con and it is mind blowing how many women are there compared to 5-10 years ago. Women are the largest growing segment of this market. Disney is ignoring this demographic at there own peril. I see so many young women walking around with Wonder Woman and Harley Quinn apparel. They should have had a whole line of Black Widow and Scarlett Witch apparel at Hot Topic or another retailer. But that wouldn't fit in there BRANDS plan.[/QUOTE]
They also are rolling out a female thor comic book to target the woman audience... So the fact they are not working on the problem is just not true.
http://marvel.com/news/comics/22875/marvel_proudly_presents_thor
Katie G
Well-Known Member
Congratulations, you just passed your final exam to qualify as a Disney Resort hotel manager.
Distinguished hotels don't react to customer complaints; they act to prevent them in the first place.
Walt Disney World hotels used to be like this. Now staff (oops, I mean Cast Members) are trained to treat customers (oops, I mean Guests) like the opposing team. It's all about squeezing those pennies to improve margins.
For the record, I don't work in a resort hotel. Besides the point of course. While I appreciate your snark, I don't agree with your point.
The pro-active message is that there is construction/rehab/downtime for some facet of the vacation the guest may experience. messages like: During your stay, the monorail will experience downtime. Let us help you plan around it - is proactive. But if any aspect of the vacation, in this case the monorail, isn't noticed as a problem, or doesn't impact the vacation, then why would the hotel give recovery. If you had a dinner reservation you might miss because you were unable to work around the monorail schedule, a taxi is ordered for you (and paid for by the resort) to accommodate you. There are email communications, signs, comments at check in and on in-room documents.
bcoachable
Well-Known Member
Disney did make the Thunder Mountain comic focused on a female... not that I disagree with you, just saying...
Bairstow
Well-Known Member
This is the part that's bonkers to me, because it suggests that Disney actually has demographic numbers on their Marvel properties and are intentionally making less money than they could.
Does Disney fear competing with itself for the attention of certain female demographics? Are they afraid that if little Cindy sees strong female action characters that it would be a gateway to interests in similar media not under Disney's control? Do we have to bury Black Widow in order to keep little Cindy from leaving that lucrative princess reservation?
Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
ohh, they will add plenty!!!.. wait for it.. wait for it...... themed bathrooms...
PhotoDave219
Well-Known Member
I don't care about any Marvel TV show. Sorry.
And a female Jason Bourne movie set in the Marvel Universe with Scarlett Johanssen? More please.
As with that last line, exactly what are you trying to accomplish? I mean, you're comparing two different fictional universes (WDFA vs MCU) as well as target audience (kids vs grownups). You're comparing apples and oranges.
Sounds to me like you're trolling for an argument.
Kingoglow
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A clever thought but that is exactly what marketing does; attempt to engineer market forces.
PhotoDave219
Well-Known Member
To which I point you to the movie.....
As an element within the busines that reacts to consumer demand.
Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
You mean like the other 4 Jason Borne movies?
Because 3 before weren't enough.. right?
sounds like a silly excuse.
How many James Bond movies you need too?
There are more female characters than just Captain Marvel.
And also.. lol really? are you really pulling a classic "Where are the males then?" retort?
Have you been to the movies? its like a sausage fest (id say 80% of the movies currently out are focused mostly on the Male audience), specially skewed to ridiculous levels in the super hero and action segments.
Yeah, thanks for confirming.
You replied exactly like the infamous "nice guys" that try to defend and protect the "male movement from feminists" in social sites lol.
PhotoDave219
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Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
Agree with this.
Reminds me of the gamer debate.. gaming is definitively focused to males. Say what you want, but most games are build by dudes FOR dudes.
yet, in the few years.. people have been tossing the interesting statistics.. where 51%-55% of the gamers.. were FEMALES... they are just not as visible. because they get harassed.
The Gamergate was a fine example of some really facepalm worthy males trying to protect their "manly man exclusive club" (they really feel threatened by girls? wow)
the Irony is.. the male "comic" community was in uproar for the change lol.
to chime in...
DC started to do an Harley Quin comic (with her "adventures" along with Poison Ivy)
Where she is the equivalent of a female deadpool with good and funny stories.
But release comics still do not have the same scope as a real full movie.
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Cesar R M
Well-Known Member
why would they do a Frozen Alaska?
they already have one directly tied into Norway.
Dave, I feel like you are behind..
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PhotoDave219
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I know for a fact how wrong you are.
My Bothan spies tell me that the only people who got recovery during construction were ones who complained. They also tell me that people staying in the Bungalows are complaining about the Ferry Boat horn.
Beyond that, you sound like a PR schill. You've never came across this way before, why?
As for the monorail? They're taking their sweet time in getting automated monorails to work. Keep in mind, its been at least five years since that fatal accident. My issue with them is that they break constantly. There's constant unplanned downtime like last month when the trains were down on both the Resort and Express beams at Open. Took them hours to figure out what was wrong.
Also, if i pay full rate for a Monorail resort, I expect it to be working. None of this "I'm sorry" BS.
Mike S
Well-Known Member
I don't get that at all. What guy would be threatened by having a common interest with girls?
Quinnmac000
Well-Known Member
Ones insecure about their masculinity. Surprisingly they still exist.
This will be fun!
I just want to make sure I understand the price you are using: $2761 / 7 nights. Excluding tax, that's about $351/night. With tax, that's $394/night. I hope I got that right.
The price is including all taxes already.
No, your fictitious family does not have "the ability to leave whenever they wish". They are at the mercy of Disney's mass transit.
We know what Disney transportation can be like. Certainly we've all waited 30 minutes or longer for Disney's transportation, even longer at the start of the day and end of the night. That's not exactly whenever I wish.
And it's just a joy being crammed onto a bus, standing the entire ride after standing in line waiting for that bus.
I'm sorry that your experiences with Disney transport have not been very good. In the last several years of trips, staying on property over 4 months total with literally hundreds of bus/boat/monorail rides, we have waited longer than 20 minutes EXACTLY ONCE. We must be simply the luckiest people at Disney to not have transportation problems. As a side note: because of coming to these boards many years ago (have been lurking since 2003), I actually time the buses/boats/monorails when we show up at the stop. We have NEVER waited more than 5 minutes for a monorail, and the longest wait for a boat was 18 minutes. The average wait for us for a bus is about 10 minutes.
So this is why I hesitated to respond. I knew that you would be unwilling to make a reasonable comparison of the 2 resorts. Not everyone is a AAA member, so cannot even ask for that rate. I quoted you a savannah view room at AKL, and a pool view room at the GC. That view is not $167 or $179. It is $240/night directly from the Hyatt web site. That same room on Expedia is $259/night. You quoting a completely different room category is how you operate to make your point.
And you also did not add in the price of renting a car, and the daily parking fee. Do you rent a car when you stay off-site? Or do you rely SOLELY on the resort transportation?
Of course, by staying onsite, I'm now at the mercy of Disney pricing! Any offsite vs. onsite comparison is incomplete without comparing dining and merchandise. You conveniently add ancillary offsite costs without adding ancillary onsite costs.
We are ONLY talking about a resort cost here. NOTHING ELSE. I added on the resort fee and daily parking fee at the off-site resort because THEY CHARGE IT. DISNEY DOES NOT. Why are you not willing to be reasonable is completely beyond me. Oh wait, not it isn't because that is how you operate on these boards.
And don't get me started on how truly mediocre most onsite dining options have become. I miss the pre Disney Dining Plan days.
Have to completely disagree that "most" onsite dining options are mediocre. Though I COMPLETELY agree that the Dining Plan should go away!
I was never comparing timeshares. Where do you get that from? I was simply stating that the price to me would be even less if I used my points for the stay, as opposed to paying cash, and that I could get a better suite, and still save money over paying cash. Why do you insist on trying to make things more complicated than that?
I couldn't care less what you can get at the Wyndham Bonnet Creek resort. We weren't talking about it, but way to just bring up random points that have no bearing on the discussion.
I can't fathom anyone that would own DVC, and rent out their points to stay at an off-site hotel.
Boggles my mind. I can certainly see renting your points if you wish to take a Disney cruise. Well, at least you won't be taking a DVC reservation away from someone else.I was having fun until I read this.
Really, "no desire to even visit Universal"? No desire to visit theme parks that are building the most exciting attractions in Orlando? You mean you'd rather (for example) ride Peter Pan's Flight for the 101st time? You'd rather see decade old shows? You'd rather deal with the hassle of Disney's buses, spending hours each day in line, rather than stay at a resort with easy theme park access and unlimited front-on-the-line access?
Really?
I cannot fathom "no desire" to visit Universal.
Unless it's a really bad case of Pixie Dust.
Umm, not everyone likes the same things in this world. So your are belittling someone because they don't see the world the same way that you do? Wow. And again, I figured that you might be childish about it all, but I was hoping that you wouldn't. Sucks to be right.
Since we already have a forum here for resort talk, this will be my final post here on this subject. We get enough drift in the Spirit threads, without adding to it. See ya!
COProgressFan
Well-Known Member
Noise from the ferryboats has been discussed in other threads, but this is the first I've read about official complaints. All I can say is, how did no one think this would be a problem? (Or more likely, who ever raised the issue was probably chastised for not being a "team player" for DVC).
Anyone who's ever stayed in a lagoon view room in the building next to the TTC knows you can hear the ferry announcements and horn.
And you know some poor manager at the Poly now has to try to beg transportation not to sound the horns on the ferries when those are standard maritime safety protocols.