TP2000
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My God, that's terrifying. Really terrifying.
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A Spirited Perfect Ten
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My God, that's terrifying. Really terrifying.
Don't encourage the class clown of MAGIC Land. Please ...
Has there ever been any indication that I need encouraging? I thought about accusing you of using your power on magic to silence me and remove my posts, but lately, I'm trying to be more circumspect.
On a serious note, I'm with you all the way on this one. Burying that news piece isn't right. I'm old enough that I have a couple of friends who work/used to work for newspapers and I've told them about it. For you youngsters out there, a newspaper is typically actual paper with an ink that rubs off after contact with anything. This ink is the source of your elder's wisdom since we've absorbed 17 metric tonnes of it through our skin.
I don't blog, read blogs, or tweets for the most part, so I'm not any help at all with the new media. When I say for the most part, what I mean is that about twice a year I log into twitter just so I can read 100 posts or so from that fake EPCOT Centre account all at once. Though I've been accused, I can honestly say I'm not that dude.
I know you don't want us to know what you do and want your privacy and I want to make clear to everyone I have no idea what you do, but I would guess you're in media (not much of a guess based on some of the clues you've dropped). For a while I thought it was TV, but now I think you're a writer (to be clear, all random hand waving on my part with only the evidence available in these here threads). Anyway, I think when something like this Willow Bay, Bob Iger, Huff Po, popularity of Disney characters with the mainland Chinese, 800 million missing dollars things pops up you should start a separate thread for four reasons. 1) It is worthy of its own thread , 2) I think the discussion would be more on point and those that also work in the business or spend a lot of time tweeting and the like could comment on things like the Mr. Bricker Huff Po discussion. In here, you've got long running conversations about the Hub, is slave Leia going to be part of any SW expansion, cheese steaks, should deodorant be worn on a theme park day, etc. You should link to the new thread in here. For me, threads like that would be interesting reads even if I never commented and I bet you'd still get plenty of comments to keep the thread on the front page for a while. It might even morph into a whole blogger, Disney media thing on its own. 3) You spend a lot of time thinking about this stuff and work in the media industry (maybe, I want to be clear to everyone out there this is just conjecture). 4) Properly titled, threads on topics like these could really be effective and turn heads. Right now, folks at Disney if they are concerned about magic activity on this topic at all might be thinking, "well this is confined to all the weirdos who look in Garnock's (once again, I want to be clear I am guessing at your name, but I bet I'm right on this one) thread", whereas an appropriate thread with a salacious title that made it quite clear what the topic was could really grab some bigwig by the proverbial balls, plus even get a few new eyeballs on this here site.
I'm not trying to get free Disney vacations, so I'm not working from some idiotic premise like EPCOT is in the best shape it has ever been in and is the premier vacation destination in the world right now.
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lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
The popular belief, that only really rose in the mid-20th century, of the non-human, unbiased, objective journalist negates the need for multiple voices. If journalists are objective, why do you need so many? Objectivity means they'll all tell you the same thing. We need to get over this obcession with an impossible goal and stop asking a stupid question of "Are you biased?" Being biased is not the issue, willingness to lie for that bias is the issue. Those who claim objectivity are the most dangerous because they claim superiority over all others.
BrerJon
Well-Known Member
It would be good to have a one-stop shop to point any interested journos towards where all the information on the situation is pooled. What we really need is a high profile blog article on a high profile news site.
Oh....
Plus, on some fundamental level we aren't entertained by the completely objective. This is why Fox, then the Daily Show (even though Mr. Stewart will claim he is merely a comedian who happens to do nothing but skewer politicians, policy, and legislation), and then the NBC family of channels have all risen in popularity whilst CNN continues to struggle. What CNN has to contend with is that whether you are a Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Socialist, or even a disenfranchised moderate, watching their programming leaves you feeling like you've just gotten in a massive fist fight with a wad of cotton.
October 13, 2012.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Yes precisely - I don't mind bias in either direction Left or Right as long as that bias is disclosed, Where I live there are two papers one unabashedly right-wing in nature the other is referred to as 'Pravda' even by it's readers the right wing paper generally prints everything good or bad about everyone , Pravda on the other hand basically parrots the leftist talking points and ignores scandals involving leftist persons while hyping the sins of anyone who is not a member of the hard left.
I find the right wing paper a bit jingoistic at times but I can trust what they write as they do not cover up the sins of the right-wingers in fact they tend to lambaste them for hypocrisy.
Pravda on the other hand actively tries to deceive its readers, It's the kind of paper who if the target is a right-winger they should get the death penalty for jaywalking, Yet if a leftist commits a crime against a child it was 'done out of love and laws should be changed to allow this behavior'
It's the Pravda type of journalism really propaganda which imperils our country.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
I've always liked two paper towns, Even Montreal has the National Post and La Devoir the two have diametrically opposed viewpoints and I read both when I'm there because the truth lies somewhere in the middle.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Once again showing they have all the sensitivity of a brick on social media
Animaniac93-98
Well-Known Member
Likely a message scheduled a week in advance with Hootsuite.
Such is the problem with factory streamlined social media.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Yep, like Joan Rivers' posthumous endorsement of the iPhone 6 Plus.
Lee
Adventurer
Wouldn't want to be in her shoes....
Clearly she made a poor decision. Actually, I halfway expect an "I made a poor decision" statement from her in the coming days.
Ah...she doesn't need the job, anyways.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
It is rather sad that people focus so much on absolutely ridiculous news while extremely important things are happening in our world. Net Neutrality is passed and stamped, a high profile assassination of Vladimir Putins number one political foe takes place in Red Square, yet servers are crashing on websites from heated debates over the color of a dress. People are feverishly ranting away and lines have been drawn between 'team white and gold' or 'team blue and black'. This is serious people, choose your side wisely because the color of this dress is more important than the future of the internet (the very thing theyre using to spend half their day arguing over the dress), its more important than the murder of a prominent post-Soviet democratic reform activist being slain by the domes in St Basils Cathedral like its 1980's Moscow all over again.
Its hard to even blame people anymore for the lack of discussion over issues that deserve our attention. Look at how the media conveys the news to us. The talking heads casually mention net neutrality, next they make a quick note about funding for HS, and up next....a FIVE MINUTE segment on the color of a dress, chalk full of interviews, pictures, videos, and even going live via satellite to 'fashion experts' to get their opinion on the color. Bait and switch is extremely powerful when executed correctly, and they have it down PAT!
asianway
Well-Known Member
You're talking to someone who thinks Sony shouldn't have pulled the WTC trailer for Spidey. So at least 24 hours
AEfx
Well-Known Member
I don't think that it's a question of "mourning". It also isn't just about promoting the DCL at this time, but more precisely the exact content that they posted as promotion.
Forgive me for explaining this, but I do think this may be one of those cultural American vs. British English things so the irony of the Disney posting may not be as fully apparent.
A "bucket list" is a list of things to do before you "kick the bucket" - in other words, a list of things to do before you DIE, and Disney is asking "What are the list of things to do on Disney Cruises before you die".
So, when someone has just died the day before on a Disney cruise excursion, yes, it seems a bit crass - hence the response of the person you replied to saying, "how about to make it back to Port Canaveral" as in that should be on that bucket list...
I agree with the above posters - that was an automated posting, but again, still no excuse - someone should be responsible for knowing that schedule of postings and intervening when necessary, such as in cases like this where at the very least it's just in very poor taste.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
A tweet expressing support for the family of the departed guest would be appropriate, But a 'bucket list' tweet immediately after someone dies in a on-property accident, Sorry shows the sensitivity of a brick