A Spirited Perfect Ten

[BrerJon]

Disney difference

 

[PhotoDave219]

Thanks for explaining that. I am not usually pro union at all but I have only worked at places that my company treated me well.. People would have very minor gripes and would constantly try to unionize. In the case of the wdw workers, it seems that there is a bit of unfair practices happening.

We will have to talk more about this on the side… Union conversations on here tend to get out-of-control.

 

[flynnibus]

Theme Park Guy's Shanghai Disneyland update is up.

The view from those hotel rooms looks to be stunning... </sarcasm>

Is it just the season or does Shanghi get no clear skys?

 

[ford91exploder]

I 'm surprised there isnt a law to limit the number of CPers or "university" students vs real employees in a company?.

Not here in the Corporate States of America.

 

[ford91exploder]

The view from those hotel rooms looks to be stunning... </sarcasm>

Is it just the season or does Shanghi get no clear skys?

No city in China has clear skies, For the Beijing olympics China shut down factories and power plants for hundreds of miles around.

 

[Kman101]

I don't mean to single you out, but this mentality seems to be what drives a lot of the discontentment on this forum. Doing something for "The Guest" doesn't necessarily mean that it'll be something that @Kman101 will love. I have a baby girl at home and I imagine something like Enchanted Tales with Belle will be a highlight of our trip in four or five years. Have you been through the attraction? It's very well done and not a typical meet and greet. I'm all for criticizing poor execution or taking the "cheap" way out, but don't criticize things just because it's not your cup of tea (esp. when it's a well-made cup of tea).

But by that same logic, it's the same thing as building something your little one can't do. And they're only little for a while. I'm sure it will be a highlight for her. What happens in 15 years when she'd rather go on rides than wait for a meet and greet? Obviously there are going to be things she can't do, I can't do, that happens. It's how a theme park works. But all I was saying ultimately is that I appreciate having a ride instead of several different meet and greets.

I also wasn't (at least that wasn't what I was trying to) criticizing the attraction. I've heard good things about it. As a grown, single man, going through the attraction just doesn't appeal to me. I'm not trying to say every attraction HAS to. We need variety for everyone. With the addition of SDMT, I have something new to experience compared to say if they built Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty separate meet and greets and Pixie Hollow.

 

[bhg469]

Disney difference

High quality card stock?

 

[JediMasterMatt]

I still find it weird that the commenters say "OH NEW ATTRACTION".
they are removing one attraction to add a similar one. how is that a "OH NEW ATTRACTION". the net gains is 0 attractions.

Pruning. It's what needs to be done at any healthy amusement park. If you are paying for staffing and operations of an attraction that is not "serving its purpose" (e.g. generating a line or guest satisfaction), then you need to close it to either replace it or modify it. Don't think of it as net gain of 0 to the theoretical capacity to the park even if the theoretical hourly capacity of the Dance is the same as Luigi's Flying Tires. Think of it as a tangible gain (if the new attraction is successful at generating a line) in reducing the lines for every attraction in the park. To quote Samwise: "Share the load"

This is not new Fantasyland where the loss of the attractions that was gained may not have been 1:1 as the attractions that were removed still generated lines (20k and Scary Adventures). I still think New Fantasyland added "some" capacity. Just not enough.

Isn't the same new ride rumored to be coming to DHS (with a Toy Story theme)? And didn't they close underperforming attractions at DHS (e.g. Jack Sparrow, Backlot Tour) to accommodate new ones that are coming?

The word I had heard (gotta love alliteration) was that the new Toy Story Slight Theme Modification to Off-the-Shelf Catalog Attractions was that it was going to receive a retheme to Mater's Junkyard Jamboree (modern turntable based Whip).

Re: the closing of underperforming attractions at DHS - nothing has been confirmed for many of the shuttered spaces. That is the difference from Disneyland's announcement and DHS's closures. The DLR announcement of a closure actually provides some sort of a promise that something new is coming. DHS... everything is still a pie-in-the-sky. A bird in the hand is better than a MagicBand in the bush.

 

[ford91exploder]

But by that same logic, it's the same thing as building something your little one can't do. And they're only little for a while. I'm sure it will be a highlight for her. What happens in 15 years when she'd rather go on rides than wait for a meet and greet? Obviously there are going to be things she can't do, I can't do, that happens. It's how a theme park works. But all I was saying ultimately is that I appreciate having a ride instead of several different meet and greets.

I also wasn't (at least that wasn't what I was trying to) criticizing the attraction. I've heard good things about it. As a grown, single man, going through the attraction just doesn't appeal to me. I'm not trying to say every attraction HAS to. We need variety for everyone. With the addition of SDMT, I have something new to experience compared to say if they built Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty separate meet and greets and Pixie Hollow.

That goes to the heart of how Walt visualized the parks they were to be a place where EVERYONE in the family had something fun to do, NOT that EVERY attraction would be suited to the Toddler demographic.

 

[doctornick]

The word I had heard (gotta love alliteration) was that the new Toy Story Slight Theme Modification to Off-the-Shelf Catalog Attractions was that it was going to receive a retheme to Mater's Junkyard Jamboree (modern turntable based Whip).

The hot rumor is that Toy Story Playland at DHS would feature:
1. A rethemed Mater's set to Woody with stagecoaches instead of tractors
2. A rethemed version of the new Luigi's set to Buzz/aliens with people riding around in spacships
3. RC Racer (like Paris/Hong Kong)

So, yes, a new version of Mater's and a new version of the Luigi's are reportedly coming to Florida.

 

[Smiddimizer]

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When is Jackie Siegel moving in?

 

[NormC]

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Think about it. How else would you do it? I would not want to put on a costume that 50 other Dad's put on before me. The show works for what it is. The animatronics and the magic mirror are cool. It is much better than a standard M&G.

 

[doctornick]

Think about it. How else would you do it? I would not want to put on a costume that 50 other Dad's put on before me. The show works for what it is. The animatronics and the magic mirror are cool. It is much better than a standard M&G.

Also, I'd suggest that if you make such props too nice, you'd end up seeing some walk off as souvenirs.

 

[Travel Junkie]

Is there anything to the counter point about CA being so big.. that addressing it as if it were a singular demographic dillutes the problem audience? Meaning.. if we were to talk SoCal or the basin specifically instead of all of Cali.. would your defense change? Just wondering..

My original point to the poster was there are a lot of ill-informed and stereotypical labels out there and people have grand misconceptions about California. It’s not a big deal, I just find it amusing and enjoy sparring with them from time to time to see the extent of their ignorance. I wasn’t looking to get into the vaccine debate and never should have brought it up since it is the hot topic right now in the blame California crowd. This is a national problem.

There are small pockets of anti-vaccine individuals concentrated in certain areas. It’s not just "wacky celebs" in LA. There are other pockets in CA and other states where that view has taken hold as well. If you look at the numbers overall the state is in line with national averages, but looking at particular cities or even school districts the numbers really spike. The fact that the number of cases isn’t dramatically higher shows that most people are vaccinated as measles is incredible contagious.

Anyway I am partly responsible for veering us off topic and for that I apologize.

 

[JediMasterMatt]

The hot rumor is that Toy Story Playland at DHS would feature:
1. A rethemed Mater's set to Woody with stagecoaches instead of tractors
2. A rethemed version of the new Luigi's set to Buzz/aliens with people riding around in spacships
3. RC Racer (like Paris/Hong Kong)

So, yes, a new version of Mater's and a new version of the Luigi's are reportedly coming to Florida.

I hadn't heard anything about reusing the Luigi's Flying Tire/Flying Saucer RV or tech. Actually, I've heard the exact opposite due to the following:

- The RV system requires a pretty substantial system that needs to sit underneath the ride platform. Florida's low water table would preclude the use this (unless the platform is placed well off ground level). Take a look at the construction photos from Carsland's construction and the big pit underneath Luigi.
- The RV system needs a clear table to operate and water in the system needs to dry or be blown out, which shuts the ride down. Bad fit for Florida unless it was put indoors and indoors it would be too loud.
- Most importantly, the ride is a dud and guest satisfaction is low. Hence the reason why it is being replaced.

It was Skipper John's fantasy project and that's the entire reason why it was put in to begin with.

While I do think the turntable Whip (Mater/Woody) and Half-pipe coaster (RC Racer) will be cloned, the Flying Tire/Saucer/Air Hockey RV will be retired (pun intended) to history.

 

[Goofyernmost]

That goes to the heart of how Walt visualized the parks they were to be a place where EVERYONE in the family had something fun to do, NOT that EVERY attraction would be suited to the Toddler demographic.

Sure, I totally agree, but in Fantasyland? Weren't we as adults then be saying that we want everything just for us and others might just as well leave the kids home with their Grandparents. This conversation is making less and less sense with every added post. (including mine, I'm sure)

 

[Kman101]

I hadn't heard anything about reusing the Luigi's Flying Tire/Flying Saucer RV or tech. Actually, I've heard the exact opposite due to the following:

- The RV system requires a pretty substantial system that needs to sit underneath the ride platform. Florida's low water table would preclude the use this (unless the platform is placed well off ground level). Take a look at the construction photos from Carsland's construction and the big pit underneath Luigi.
- The RV system needs a clear table to operate and water in the system needs to dry or be blown out, which shuts the ride down. Bad fit for Florida unless it was put indoors and indoors it would be too loud.
- Most importantly, the ride is a dud and guest satisfaction is low. Hence the reason why it is being replaced.

It was Skipper John's fantasy project and that's the entire reason why it was put in to begin with.

While I do think the turntable Whip (Mater/Woody) and Half-pipe coaster (RC Racer) will be cloned, the Flying Tire/Saucer/Air Hockey RV will be retired (pun intended) to history.

The rumor is they're copying the NEW version of what DCA is getting. Not copying what DCA is replacing. I understand the underground aspect of it but that's the rumor. I don't think doctornick meant to imply they're doing the exact same ride the way it is now.

 

[spacemt354]

I hadn't heard anything about reusing the Luigi's Flying Tire/Flying Saucer RV or tech. Actually, I've heard the exact opposite due to the following:

- The RV system requires a pretty substantial system that needs to sit underneath the ride platform. Florida's low water table would preclude the use this (unless the platform is placed well off ground level). Take a look at the construction photos from Carsland's construction and the big pit underneath Luigi.
- The RV system needs a clear table to operate and water in the system needs to dry or be blown out, which shuts the ride down. Bad fit for Florida unless it was put indoors and indoors it would be too loud.
- Most importantly, the ride is a dud and guest satisfaction is low. Hence the reason why it is being replaced.

It was Skipper John's fantasy project and that's the entire reason why it was put in to begin with.

While I do think the turntable Whip (Mater/Woody) and Half-pipe coaster (RC Racer) will be cloned, the Flying Tire/Saucer/Air Hockey RV will be retired (pun intended) to history.

To be honest I really don't want that RC Racer ride. I don't see how that addresses the need for more attractions without a height restriction and I also don't see how it helps capacity.

I also don't see how any outdoor attractions are going to have high operating efficiency with the unpredictable weather in Florida.

 

[Kman101]

I like the idea of RC Racer. Sure it's neat looking, but I'd rather have the Parachute Drop. I understand, visually, why they aren't, but I'd rather have that. LOL

 

[GLaDOS]

I hadn't heard anything about reusing the Luigi's Flying Tire/Flying Saucer RV or tech. Actually, I've heard the exact opposite due to the following:

- The RV system requires a pretty substantial system that needs to sit underneath the ride platform. Florida's low water table would preclude the use this (unless the platform is placed well off ground level). Take a look at the construction photos from Carsland's construction and the big pit underneath Luigi.
- The RV system needs a clear table to operate and water in the system needs to dry or be blown out, which shuts the ride down. Bad fit for Florida unless it was put indoors and indoors it would be too loud.
- Most importantly, the ride is a dud and guest satisfaction is low. Hence the reason why it is being replaced.

It was Skipper John's fantasy project and that's the entire reason why it was put in to begin with.

While I do think the turntable Whip (Mater/Woody) and Half-pipe coaster (RC Racer) will be cloned, the Flying Tire/Saucer/Air Hockey RV will be retired (pun intended) to history.

The new version of Luigi's isn't the saucer ride system. It's a form of the trackless ride system. Youtube Aquatopia from Tokyo Disney for a better idea about what the new version of Luigi's is