A Spirited Perfect Ten

[lazyboy97o]

So I've been doing a little research regarding the Strategic Planning Group thing and just thought I'd pop in to say that I now really need to read Disneywars. I can't believe TWDC is bringing together the "band". One thing is for sure...Peter Murphy is unlikely to return as lead vocalist.

The band never left.

 

[PhotoDave219]

Understood. But they would also have to be involved with the big budget that was apparently just approved and were likely elevated because of their recent contributions and not their performance 10 years ago.

I get the hesitation. But everything good and bad within the last year or so would have had to be supported and likely championed by the folks promoted, otherwise their influence wouldn't have supported the promotions. The only dependable thing about corporations is that you only get rewarded on what you just did and loyalty only lasts as long as your last good idea.

Just makes me apprehensive that they're getting the band back together... And that's a horrible idea. (based on all those things I quoted earlier)

 

[Disneyhead'71]

They only have so much time in a day. Plus many people return to their rooms for a mid afternoon break and expect their room to be clean (even though it is before 3:00 p.m.). With all the publicity/expose' over the past few years about dirty hotel rooms, they may want to avoid WDW being included in those stories.

The towel art is/was a nice touch but I would gladly give that up for a cleaner hotel room.

So, in a $600+/night hotel room there is no way that you could get a clean room AND a towel animal?

This is why I LOVE Disney.

 

[JenniferS]

I'm sorry, help me understand why that isn't one of the "details" that made Disney so special. You are alright with it going away because instead of demanding that mousekeeping do their job while maintaining the "magic" you are willing to give one up to get the other? Why? That seems to be, to me anyway, an area that Disney can completely control. No mechanical issues, no old equipment to break down, just supervised labor being told to do their job, which included, amongst other things, making towel animals. This is something that directly impacts the "Guests" to a degree much more significant then a few trees removed or an occasional paint chip or a trash can that needs emptying. Why isn't this important to be concerned about especially when it would be so easy to have both.

At the risk of being called a pixie dust snorter, I'll proudly admit that coming back to find towel animals or cute stuffed animal tableaus makes me happy.
No reason Housekeeping can't clean the room sufficiently AND invest 30 more seconds to spread the Magic.

I keep our room tidy, tip generously daily, and always come back to a cleaned, stocked room; as well as a little something extra to make me smile.

 

[PhotoDave219]

So, in a $600+/night hotel room there is no way that you could get a clean room AND a towel animal?

This is why I LOVE Disney.

Its a valid criticism. For the amount people pay, they deserve much better. I know that Ive gotten better housekeeping and overall more for my money hotel wise by staying at the Hard Rock over any Disney hotel.

For $600 a night, i expect mints on the pillow and a very personal turn down service.

 

[flynnibus]

That's right, change the direction of the conversation. I gave you some hints, but you've ignored them. It won't matter what I say, you'll just keep to your agenda bandwagon so I'll just go to another thread instead. Let me guess your next move, oh, it's no secret, we all know that you're going to continue to be condescending and rude.

One week old account and already laying in like this? yeah... no smoke here folks...

 

[englanddg]

So, in a $600+/night hotel room there is no way that you could get a clean room AND a towel animal?

This is why I LOVE Disney.

Interesting that they manage to get it done, with two cleanings a day, and VASTLY superior "animals", on DCL.

Wonder what their Magic is...or perhaps this is just Dream and Fantasy.

(waits for the comment that "well, WDW has 30k+ rooms so it's just not feasible" remarks)

 

[wogwog]

Interesting that they manage to get it done, with two cleanings a day, and VASTLY superior "animals", on DCL.

Wonder what their Magic is...or perhaps this is just Dream and Fantasy.

(waits for the comment that "well, WDW has 30k+ rooms so it's just not feasible" remarks)

I see what you did there. My favorite DCL is the full sized body in my bed wearing my sun glasses and cap reading a book.

 

[Nubs70]

Ah, young Dreamfinder, someone on top of the news. This may not be big news here, but it is sending ripples thru many top corporations today. And, yes, that would certainly include Disney. .... because some of the same mistakes made mere miles off the Florida coast are being repeated on a smoggy, dusty site in the Pundong (lots of words) Tourism zone.

The above is a VERY ugly situation. And it just keeps getting worse. But Darth Iger has nothing to worry about, I'm sure ...

So is it safe to infer that:

1. The developers failed to insist on performance guarantees with the Chinese construction firms
2. Chinese construction firms do not honor contractual obligations.

 

[1023]

Andrew Carver is at the Paradiso this year. He might be at the Riviera next year, or the Stardust the year after that. He's part of the team, so are you.

Apologies, but all this talk of co-mingling made me go there

Holy "ShowGirls" Batman. There is a reference I would have bet against on a Disney forum. Describing the relationship in mangement and leadership or between studios?

*1023*

 

[ford91exploder]

At the risk of being called a pixie dust snorter, I'll proudly admit that coming back to find towel animals or cute stuffed animal tableaus makes me happy.
No reason Housekeeping can't clean the room sufficiently AND invest 30 more seconds to spread the Magic.

I keep our room tidy, tip generously daily, and always come back to a cleaned, stocked room; as well as a little something extra to make me smile.

But TWDC wants to cut Mousekeeping by X percent so by cutting the towel animals and assigning each Mousekeeper X% more rooms to clean they can achieve their goal.

The net result of course for the guest will be dirtier rooms and no towel animals...

 

[JenniferS]

But TWDC wants to cut Mousekeeping by X percent so by cutting the towel animals and assigning each Mousekeeper X% more rooms to clean they can achieve their goal.

The net result of course for the guest will be dirtier rooms and no towel animals...

And the net result for Mousekeeping will be less generous tips.

Sorry, but I'm like that.
You do that little extra for me, and I will do that little extra for you.

 

[ford91exploder]

So is it safe to infer that:

1. The developers failed to insist on performance guarantees with the Chinese construction firms
2. Chinese construction firms do not honor contractual obligations.

That's almost true however Chinese firms do what the CCP tells them to do, If the CCP does not want a Chinese company to do something it does not get done otherwise senior managers find themselves in jail for some crime involving 'state secrets'.

Just the way it is in China and Chinese companies they DO NOT play by the same rules Western companies do.

 

[ford91exploder]

And the net result for Mousekeeping will be less generous tips.

Sorry, but I'm like that.
You do that little extra for me, and I will do that little extra for you.

Same here, Next time watch the mousekeepers in the hall they all look like they are under tremendous stress

 

[BrerJon]

So, in a $600+/night hotel room there is no way that you could get a clean room AND a towel animal?

This is why I LOVE Disney.

If I had kids and was that bothered by this change I'd stay offsite, save $100+ a night, then use $15 of that saving to buy my kids a nice plush character toy every day which will last far longer than a towel will!

 

[BrerJon]

And the net result for Mousekeeping will be less generous tips.

Sorry, but I'm like that.
You do that little extra for me, and I will do that little extra for you.

Isn't housekeeping at WDW a non-tipped role anyway? I know lots of CPs do it, and they expressly can't work tipped positions.

 

[OneDNP]

Holy "ShowGirls" Batman. There is a reference I would have bet against on a Disney forum. Describing the relationship in mangement and leadership or between studios?

*1023*

Ha! It came to mind with the studios chatter. Though since you mention it, I suppose the management/leadership angle works too, but I will tell on myself and admit I read Disneywars in 2011 and didn't take notes.

 

[BrerJon]

So I've been doing a little research regarding the Strategic Planning Group thing and just thought I'd pop in to say that I now really need to read Disneywars. I can't believe TWDC is bringing together the "band". One thing is for sure...Peter Murphy is unlikely to return as lead vocalist.

I really don't know how anyone who frequents these forums can not make reading DisneyWar their top priority. It really is the Bible for understanding what the company has been through, what has gone wrong, and how things could be different. And it's a gripping read.

If you haven't read it, yet care in the slightest about who the COO, CFO, CEO of Disney etc. are, then you're badly missing out.

 

[lazyboy97o]

The Keys to the Kingdom: The Rise of Michael Eisner and the Fall of Everybody Else by Kim Masters is another good book that's a good bit shorter than the tome that is Disneywar.

 

[ThemeParkJunkee]

I really don't know how anyone who frequents these forums can not make reading DisneyWar their top priority. It really is the Bible for understanding what the company has been through, what has gone wrong, and how things could be different.

If you haven't read it, yet care in the slightest about who the COO, CFO, CEO of Disney etc. are, then you're badly missing out.

I must admit that I am a recent entrant into the entertainment/themepark/animation etc. interest group. My animator/concept art daughter got me into it. I am a big corporate culture person (former CFO). DD started me off with the old animators of Disney. I currently dabble in the stock market and am semi-retired. I am very interested in the directions this forum leads me in learning about both my investments and my love of theme parks in general. Book ordered. And thanks.