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Bairstow

Bairstow

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the.dreamfinder said:
Both are still better fits than Guardians. Marvel deserves to be part of a third gate where the IP isn't encumbered by an existing park.
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Well they're not building a third gate.
They're going to want to put Marvel somewhere, and California Adventure is working better as a thematic catchall park than the original concept.
The only parts of that park that are truly successful thematically are Carsland and Grizzly Peak/Airfield.
Would you rather all the Marvel stuff goes into Disneyland's Tomorrowland?
 
the.dreamfinder

the.dreamfinder

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GiveMeTheMusic said:
I can't imagine why it would go anywhere but WDS. WDS is still a dismal failure and in dire need of billions of dollars in expansion and work. There isn't a universe where a slam dunk like Star Wars expansion shouldn't go into WDS over DLP.
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Back when Phillipe Gas was in charge of the resort, they were looking at the expansion pad behind Discoveryland. The thinking at the time being Marvel/Avatar would be the keystone of the major redevelopment effort at WDSP. Now that Avatar will likely never leave the swamps, it even makes sense for the suits.
 
GiveMeTheMusic

GiveMeTheMusic

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the.dreamfinder said:
Back when Phillipe Gas was in charge of the resort, they were looking at the expansion pad behind Discoveryland. The thinking at the time being Marvel/Avatar would be the keystone of the major redevelopment effort at WDSP. Now that Avatar will likely never leave the swamps, it even makes sense for the suits.
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Seems unreal that that would even be considered. WDS can be the franchise dumping ground. It's theme-less and needs all the help it can get.
 
the.dreamfinder

the.dreamfinder

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Bairstow said:
Well they're not building a third gate.
They're going to want to put Marvel somewhere, and California Adventure is working better as a thematic catchall park than the original concept.
The only parts of that park that are truly successful thematically are Carsland and Grizzly Peak/Airfield.
Would you rather all the Marvel stuff goes into Disneyland's Tomorrowland?
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They need to, but they are too selfish and short-sighted to make the investments to properly utilize their IP.
 
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Absimilliard

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ford91exploder said:
Most companies shoot for only a few SECONDS of downtime per year, Unlike Disney where the website can be down for hours or days...
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Speaking of that... I was recently trying to get infos out of HKDL website about Autopia and the Halloween event and for two nights in a row: not working. Meanwhile, their competitor in Hong Kong (Ocean Park) have a rock solid website and they don't hide like Disney their Halloween offerings. If I was someone in HK or China looking for a fun Halloween day, which one would I have visited?
 
ThemeParkJunkee

ThemeParkJunkee

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The DCA power plant overlay is an abomination that will mess up sightlines all around the park. It sure doesn't say "California" in any way. Well except in the "hey we make movies here and it was in a movie" way. I did consider the CA version of ToT to be less thematically appropriate to the subject matter and I am grateful WDW has been spared this approach thus far. It really looks "cheap" to me. I better take a closer look.
 
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Absimilliard

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GiveMeTheMusic said:
I can't imagine why it would go anywhere but WDS. WDS is still a dismal failure and in dire need of billions of dollars in expansion and work. There isn't a universe where a slam dunk like Star Wars expansion shouldn't go into WDS over DLP.
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WDS is not as bad as it used to be, thanks to Ratatouille. Ratatouille is a huge success and finally gave the park a flagship attraction that bring guests there instead of DLP in the morning. The park infrastructure was too small and beyond the ride, it gave them a sitdown restaurant, large set of restrooms and a profitable shop. For the 150 million euros they spent on the area, it was money very well placed and set things up nicely for the future.

I am rather curious to see what they will do with the Star Wars overlay on Space Mountain. The last refurb was basically a set-up for this as they cleaned up the leftover sets and pieces from De La Terre a la Lune, changed all the projectors and then hid the sets back under tarps in preparation for the next thematic makeover. New rocket shells are still planned as far as I know with soft restraints.
 
truecoat

truecoat

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PiratesoftheHM said:
It still doesn't fit the theme of DCA, even if the entire surrounding area becomes Marvel, which I personally don't believe will happen. If stuff like Frozen doesn't belong in Norway, I wish our east coast friends would support our claim that space super heroes don't belong in California.
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Although part of the Marvel Universe, it doesn't fit cohesively in an area next to most Marvel films due to location. You could include it within a section that used Thor's Asgard and/or Dr. Strange other dimensional areas but including it with the rest of the films that take place on earth seems like a stretch at best.
 
Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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FigmentFreak said:
Then when they're done making live action out of animations they can make animation movies out of all the live action ones.
Let's call it the circle of live action/animation life.
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Im pretty sure there is some Disney executive writing down that idea right now.
"Genius.. heres my ticket to a bonus apart from the cost cuts!"
 
Cesar R M

Cesar R M

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Mike S said:
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They have the space for that without removing anything? And keeping Star Tours as well I'm guessing? Wow.

Yeah, their Space Mountain is very unique.

Dont forget the sight lines from the rest of the park.
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I still wonder.. will the ride be the absolutely the same? or are they going to AT LEAST pimpup the queue line and increase the show lenght?
because a darn single drop will be hardly "an adventure for break out" from a fortress.

Also, its my imagination or disneyblogs again removing all negative comments?
 
Animaniac93-98

Animaniac93-98

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GiveMeTheMusic said:
I can't imagine why it would go anywhere but WDS. WDS is still a dismal failure and in dire need of billions of dollars in expansion and work. There isn't a universe where a slam dunk like Star Wars expansion shouldn't go into WDS over DLP.
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The "easiest" way to fix WDSP would be this:

a) replace the Backlot Tour with Star Wars Land
b) replace the Backlot section (sans RnRC) with DCA's Marvel additions, leaving ToT as is
c) add TSMM to Playland

Still would cost around $2 billion, but it would eliminate the worst of the park and add to its overall capacity. This does not include the stuff they are already adding/considering like the new parade and night time show.
 
truecoat

truecoat

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the.dreamfinder said:
South China Morning Post has some hard numbers on Shanghai Disneyland's early performance.
  • 20,000 daily guests on average
  • On track for 7.3 million guests per year if the current attendance behaviour holds
http://scmp.com/business/companies/article/2024877/disney-still-find-its-magic-shanghai
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20,000 seems low to be considered successful. It has been said that attendance has been great but is that related to that the park couldn't handle much more due to limited attractions?
 

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