A Spirited Dirty Dozen ...

[SoManyWasps]

People actually believe that? Maybe its an age thing,its just a glorified messenger for me. Back several lives ago when I worked in marketing I recall a company who sold training on how to maximise Facebook.To this day I dont know anyone who uses it for anything other than a bypass to customer services when they have a gripe.
Perhaps Facebook leave me alone cause I tend to post ertha kitt.

I did some business with a ad salesmen from Facebook in my not too recent past. Make no mistake about it, they want to know everything about you. Your favorite movie, what political conversations push your buttons, when you want to get married, whether or not you shave your armpits. Every aspect of your personal life is valuable to them from an advertising perspective, and they will go to any length to get a hold of that information. A big part of what Facebook will be doing in the next 2-3 years is finding new ways to gain access to you. That's really what their major acquisitions over the past few years have been about. That's why they want yahoo. Facebook wants to be the defining mode of communication for every living human, and has some perverse incentives for doing so.

 

[Mike S]

Stay off it then....

Basically what I do. I have one but rarely if ever log in, let alone actually post something.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Well energy and Imagination need much more than a half year refurb to bring it up to scratch and be ready for 2017, hence why I didn't mention those. I was more looking at immediate short term enhancements like Soarin, and to an extent Test Track.

What do you think they need to change about mission space though? Not sure what they could do other than the video

 

[PhotoDave219]

I did some business with a ad salesmen from Facebook in my not too recent past. Make no mistake about it, they want to know everything about you. Your favorite movie, what political conversations push your buttons, when you want to get married, whether or not you shave your armpits. Every aspect of your personal life is valuable to them from an advertising perspective, and they will go to any length to get a hold of that information. A big part of what Facebook will be doing in the next 2-3 years is finding new ways to gain access to you. That's really what their major acquisitions over the past few years have been about. That's why they want yahoo. Facebook wants to be the defining mode of communication for every living human, and has some perverse incentives for doing so.

Well, that makes me want to delete my account.

 

[SoManyWasps]

Well, that makes me want to delete my account.

Good luck. They store every aspect of your account history in perpetuity, and will bombard you with emails about your friends missing you. Use instagram or whatsapp? They still get your info. There is no deleting Facebook. You can only redirect their access.

 

[Mike S]

Good luck. They store every aspect of your account history in perpetuity, and will bombard you with emails about your friends missing you. Use instagram or whatsapp? They still get your info. There is no deleting Facebook. You can only redirect their access.

 

[GoofGoof]

The problem with Facebook, in my opinion, isn't the format, but it's increasingly ubiquitous nature. Not having a Facebook, even a poorly maintained one, can make you a luddite and a pariah.

If that's true you probably just need better friends. I've never had a Facebook page and probably never will. To my knowledge I've never lost a friend over it. I'm not preachy about it or anything like that and I have no issue with other people using Facebook it just has no appeal to me.

 

[SoManyWasps]

If that's true you probably just need better friends. I've never had a Facebook page and probably never will. To my knowledge I've never lost a friend over it. I'm not preachy about it or anything like that and I have no issue with other people using Facebook it just has no appeal to me.

I've been job hunting for a while now. Back in December, I ended up interviewing with a small time local comany. For reasons unrelated to my job search, I had deactived my Facebook for the holiday season. The HR rep asked me to submit my Facebook url for screening, and I when I told her I didn't have one, she didn't believe me. It took 30 minutes for me to explain to a near retirement age adult why I wouldn't want to have a Facebook.

Try being 15 and telling kids at a new school that you don't have a Facebook. The pressure to adopt (or continue using) Facebook is massive, but I commend you for resisting.

 

[GoofGoof]

I've been job hunting for a while now. Back in December, I ended up interviewing with a small time local comany. For reasons unrelated to my job search, I had deactived my Facebook for the holiday season. The HR rep asked me to submit my Facebook url for screening, and I when I told her I didn't have one, she didn't believe me. It took 30 minutes for me to explain to a near retirement age adult why I wouldn't want to have a Facebook.

Try being 15 and telling kids at a new school that you don't have a Facebook. The pressure to adopt (or continue using) Facebook is massive, but I commend you for resisting.

That's interesting. I've been involved with recruiting and hiring for a while now and have never asked a candidate for info on their Facebook page. We use a 3rd party to do background checks so I'm not sure if they look at Facebook or not. This may be me being ignorant, but can't you make your page private? If so would it even be legal for a company to request you to make the info available? We aren't allowed to ask a candidate personal questions that are not job relevant like are they married, do they have kids, gay or straight, really anything that could be considered possibly used for discrimination. If it's a smaller company (less than 25 employees) they aren't covered under Federal law so a lot more would be allowed.

I don't really feel like I'm resisting. It just has no appeal to me.

 

[UpAllNight]

What do you think they need to change about mission space though? Not sure what they could do other than the video

I'm not sure to what extent the ride system can be adapted so that difficult for me to answer

I'd like more interactivity in each cabin where buttons pressed actually affect what's happening. If that's not possible on the screen then things like lighting, fog, different sounds etc. Pressing buttons that don't do much is kind of pointless. Also the quality of the movie could be enhanced and also the clarity of the screens (or is it projection?) Maybe a new mission can breathe life into the attraction too.

As you can see I don't know a lot about what's possible with this system but I think a good refurb could push it to another level.

Not doubting Imagination, Energy amongst others are in much more desperate need though.

 

[Crazydisneyfanluke]

Not even close. That's an insult to Las Vegas I love WDW as much as the next person here but the stuff that happens at EPCOT or even in the past at PI is just plain tame compared to a slow night in Vegas.

I thoroughly enjoyed Vegas. I saw quiet of things happen. But couldn't help find similarity between there and EPCOT (to a degree). One thing to point out though, in Vegas the trash cans did not overflow as often, but your money disappeared just as fast!

 

[SoManyWasps]

That's interesting. I've been involved with recruiting and hiring for a while now and have never asked a candidate for info on their Facebook page. We use a 3rd party to do background checks so I'm not sure if they look at Facebook or not. This may be me being ignorant, but can't you make your page private? If so would it even be legal for a company to request you to make the info available? We aren't allowed to ask a candidate personal questions that are not job relevant like are they married, do they have kids, gay or straight, really anything that could be considered possibly used for discrimination. If it's a smaller company (less than 25 employees) they aren't covered under Federal law so a lot more would be allowed.

I don't really feel like I'm resisting. It just has no appeal to me.

Their concern is content. Are you posting something that, as an employer, could bring heat on them? The info they find could absolutely be used to discriminate. But they haven't asked for it directly. By logging in I would have volunteered the info willingly. Legally, it's no different than if I off handedly mention my wife during the interview. They may have been asking for one thing, but they got something extra for the effort. In my state, this is common practice for a lot of employment sectors.

 

[Crazydisneyfanluke]

I currently use Facebook to see what my friends and family are doing over seas. If it wasn't for that, i wouldn't have one.

 

[Flippin'Flounder]

Try being 15 and telling kids at a new school that you don't have a Facebook. The pressure to adopt (or continue using) Facebook is massive, but I commend you for resisting.

Then you'd be normal. Kids have moved on, adults still use it...

EDIT: Now, they do use Instagram, which is owned by Facebook, so if your point is that Facebook is controlling us, that's fine, but if it's that the app is used by everybody, you're wrong.

 

[cdd89]

WDW is not busy now. It just isn't. And much of that is masked by all the groups that come in for end of school year trips and the last three weeks of the real convention season ... but I don't care if you waited an hour for Peter Pan this morning, the parks are not busy at all.

If you get the chance to reply to this, I'd love to hear this expanded upon. I found WDW's "busy-ness" situation really odd when I visited (early May) - certain attractions had medium-to-high posted wait times and yet there weren't any queues for the buses even at what should have been peak closing times. Animal Kingdom was even more strange in that it was posting 60 minute waits for attractions which were more like 20 minutes, which I've never seen before anywhere else - and made me question the other lines I didn't join based on posted wait times. FastPass+ was entirely unneeded at Epcot in the absence of Froarin'.

Another question: why does Disney station CMs at the FP+ entry scans for attractions that (at that time) really don't require FastPass? At Epcot, that's [at least] 7 CMs who could have been doing more useful things, rather than standing around doing nothing - almost double that if you include additional CMs at the merge points.

 

[Mike S]

This is me the older I get. I maybe post an actual status once a week. I mostly use it now to keep up with my favorite bands, the news (it's been especially useful for certain events back home) and to keep up with folks whom I know but don't care enough to actually call and talk to on the phone lol. I actually find myself more active on these boards and some other forums than I do social media

I don't think I've posted in years actually.

 

[Mike S]

If you get the chance to reply to this, I'd love to hear this expanded upon. I found WDW's "busy-ness" situation really odd when I visited (early May) - certain attractions had medium-to-high posted wait times and yet there weren't any queues for the buses even at what should have been peak closing times. Animal Kingdom was even more strange in that it was posting 60 minute waits for attractions which were more like 20 minutes, which I've never seen before anywhere else - and made me question the other lines I didn't join based on posted wait times. FastPass+ was entirely unneeded at Epcot in the absence of Froarin'.

Another question: why does Disney station CMs at the FP+ entry scans for attractions that (at that time) really don't require FastPass? At Epcot, that's [at least] 7 CMs who could have been doing more useful things, rather than standing around doing nothing - almost double that if you include additional CMs at the merge points.

That's a new one

 

[SoManyWasps]

Then you'd be normal. Kids have moved on, adults still use it...

EDIT: Now, they do use Instagram, which is owned by Facebook, so if your point is that Facebook is controlling us, that's fine, but if it's that the app is used by everybody, you're wrong.

Kids are still using Facebook, but the wealth of other options has decreased engagement. Facebook is still the easier way to connect to instagram. The talk of Facebook being abandoned by young people has largely been overblown. They've held onto that market segment better than any other social media platform. But the wealth of other options makes it seem otherwise if facebook is viewed as an island.

I'm not arguing that Facebook controls us. I'm just saying they want to track our every move and use the data to manipulate us into spending money to prop up our consumerism centric economy.

 

[GoofGoof]

I thoroughly enjoyed Vegas. I saw quiet of things happen. But couldn't help find similarity between there and EPCOT (to a degree). One thing to point out though, in Vegas the trash cans did not overflow as often, but your money disappeared just as fast!

There are definitely a lot of ways to lose your money and a lot of fun to be had in both places.

In my younger years I went to Vegas several times a year. It's a crazy fun place. You just have to be careful and know where to go and where to avoid. EPCOT is a much more controlled environment. You still have a large number of guests with strollers and kids in tow. Not very common to see in Vegas. Yes, some of those parents in EPCOT may have a drink or 2 but it's nothing like what happens in Vegas. In the casinos people can literally drink 24hrs a day and comped drinks if you are gambling. There's tons of drinking at the pool or in your room and they also have real clubs in Vegas. People are doing a lot more than just drinking there too. All of that activity is not only tolerated but encouraged. At EPCOT the percentage of guests drinking is much lower than Vegas overall. On top of that the percentage of those drinking to get wasted is also much lower at EPCOT. It's easy to point to a few viral videos at EPCOT and assume that's how everyone is acting, but it really isn't. At 3am in a club in Vegas almost everyone is wasted. I'm not saying that it's not fun to party at EPCOT too, but it's a tame, controlled environment compared to what can happen 24hrs a day in Vegas.

 

[COProgressFan]

Another question: why does Disney station CMs at the FP+ entry scans for attractions that (at that time) really don't require FastPass? At Epcot, that's [at least] 7 CMs who could have been doing more useful things, rather than standing around doing nothing - almost double that if you include additional CMs at the merge points.

If you're referring to the greeter position, they've always had greeters, long before fastpass 1.0. IMO they're a big part of the "Disney difference" , by being a friendly welcoming face to answer questions about the ride, etc. As you mention, with nearly every attraction having a standby and FP queue now, their role is even more important.

Every so often you'll hear about efforts to cut these positions by clueless execs, but with all the complexities of FP+, I can't see them going away.