A Spirited Dirty Dozen ...

FoodRockz

Well-Known Member
Jaws is pretty much the only classic Universal ride that I'll actually miss but Diagon Alley more than makes up for it. Plenty of practical effects throughout the land itself and we still have a blast of fire. The problem with Gringotts is not just "screenz." There are plenty of other mostly screen based rides out there that are still much better. The problem is with pacing and how they focused so much on one specific event. The story would've faired better as a simple coaster ride through the vaults, screens or no screens.
I agree. I think part of the problem is they JUST HAD to include Harry, Hermione, and Ron in the ride. Where as, I don't think it adds that much.
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
I would say practically nil. Without the music it's just Hamlet with animals and fart jokes.

What will be interesting is to see whether they keep the original voice cast, and whether the casting generates any accusations of whitewashing.
I actually wonder if they will update the songs a little. Just like they did with The Jungle Book
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
Even relatively poorly-known IPs like the BFG and Pete's Dragon can't make any money these days.
If they had all the Pr and Ads a full Disney tent pole had.. things could have been different.

You would be surprised how many hospitality degrees are in charge of Walt Disney World.
and I wonder how many of them are overriden by the executives looking at ways to cut costs to make themselves look efficient to wall street crooks.
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
In the works starring Channing Tatum as Elsa.
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with Samuel L. Jackson as Olaf. "Y'all motha** need summer!" :hilarious::hilarious:
 

Mike S

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I agree. I think part of the problem is they JUST HAD to include Harry, Hermione, and Ron in the ride. Where as, I don't think it adds that much.
Don't forget Voldemort. I do like the beginning scene with Bellatrix though. That spell is still one of the best 3D effects I've ever seen.
 

NormC

Well-Known Member
This is a pointless, pedantic distinction.
Actually it isn't. It is an important legal distinction. A license is a grant of permission to use, it's not a transfer of ownership. Universal cannot sell what they do not own. All they can do is negotiate with the owner to alter the terms of the license agreement whether that is payment terms, use terms or termination of said agreement. Universal has the upper hand here because of the way the contract was written. They get exclusive use rights in a territory for essentially forever for pennies. Universal could hold out for a pay off if Disney wanted to end the agreement but I don't see that happening. Universal could also just decide they no longer want to use it and terminate the agreement themselves. I don't see that happening either. Disney gets money for doing nothing and Universal gets use of the IP for a bargain price. As we have all said many times Disney does not need any of this in Florida. They have plenty of other IP to use. Might as well let Universal keep sending them checks.
 

Bairstow

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Actually it isn't. It is an important legal distinction. A license is a grant of permission to use, it's not a transfer of ownership. Universal cannot sell what they do not own. All they can do is negotiate with the owner to alter the terms of the license agreement whether that is payment terms, use terms or termination of said agreement. Universal has the upper hand here because of the way the contract was written. They get exclusive use rights in a territory for essentially forever for pennies. Universal could hold out for a pay off if Disney wanted to end the agreement but I don't see that happening. Universal could also just decide they no longer want to use it and terminate the agreement themselves. I don't see that happening either. Disney gets money for doing nothing and Universal gets use of the IP for a bargain price. As we have all said many times Disney does not need any of this in Florida. They have plenty of other IP to use. Might as well let Universal keep sending them checks.

But in this case, the licenser has become the prime seeker of the license right. Disney may have more IP than it knows what to do with, but the ability to save in development costs by building clones of Marvel attractions in all of its parks worldwide is worth millions of dollars to Disney. Likewise, keeping Disney from being able to leverage its IP in the Florida market gives Universal a competitive advantage and is worth quite a bit of money to them, beyond even their ability to leverage the IP itself.
 

Rodan75

Well-Known Member
Pete's Dragon was advertised heavily during the Olympics. Can't imagine that was cheap to do.

I'm assuming Pete's Dragon will end up in the black for Disney, not a booming success, but a solid catalog title.

Between Pete's Dragon and the Queen of Katwe I'm wondering if the Netflix deal changes some of the economics of these lower budget movies.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Evita was just amazing as well. But I am EXTREMELY biased because the titular character was portrayed by my second all-time fave :inlove:

Madonna's version of 'Don't cry for me Argentina' is amazingly powerful and shows what an amazing singer she is as compared to today's crop of so called singers like Taylor Swift who needs everything run through voice tracking to clean up the technical issues.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
The fact that they're so set on trying to get GotG in WDW shows that they would love to have the full rights but whatever they would have to do with Universal to get them wouldn't be worth it.
You would think, but they have the rights to Marvel everywhere else in the world and haven't really used it much. It almost seems like Disney doesn't know what it wants to do with Marvel in the parks.
 

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