A Spirited Dirty Dozen ...

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
IMO Everest for SDL makes little to no sense. Rapids treads similar territory with a different ride system, and I'm sure a big high capacity E ticket reflecting a hot IP would be a bigger hit for them. Surely they can cook up a Zootopia ride for China, where the film was an unbelievable success - but that would take some time.
Expedition Everest is clearly present on one of the Master Plans and those are interesting because of how finalized they are (the longer layout of Seven Dwarfs Mine Train is also present). But as a designated Future Expansion area it also is the place where placeholders are far more likely just to make the plan look built out.
 

lentesta

Premium Member
My thought was 'does this person REALLY have this book yet'? It says the official release date is the 15th or so. I'm guessing Amazon won't let you comment on a 'Verified Purchase' unless you actually buy the book, and I can't think of a pixieduster spending money on a preorder to badmouth a publication that isn't wall to wall, floor to ceiling, dimension to dimension endless praise for their favorite BRAND.

I'm wondering if someone at Celebration Place is at work here....

The first report we had of a book in customer hands was either Saturday or Monday. I suppose it's possible for someone to read 200-400 pages per day.
 

BernardandBianca

Well-Known Member
The accountants who work on a film or play don't get listed as part of the cast.

You obviously don't stay for the credits at the end of films, especially the Marvel and Pixar films. The worst I've seen is that the credits include the name of the caterer who provided the meals for the crew, and the entire in-house legal staff.
 

truecoat

Well-Known Member
Makes you wonder why the huge decline in movie attendance despite skyrocketing population.
I guess people are just BORED and thinking "not worth it" when they have a giant cinema sized TV at home.

2016 is showing that people want a quality movie when they go to the theaters. They aren't going to pay for crap anymore. Here's a chart (not my idea but I made it from scratch nonetheless) with US box office results compared to Rotten Tomatoes scores. The higher the score the more money the movie made for the most part. I only used movies with a budget of $100 million or more and none in the last 4 weeks.

Movies vs RT 20162.jpg


Kung Fu Panda 3 scored high but releasing it in Jan/Feb was a mistake.

BvsS did better than the score indicates but this was due to the popularity of the two characters and both being in the same movie. This movie in the end did not live up to expectations for WB.

The BFG was a poorly named, poorly promoted movie that didn't live up to it's score. Might have done better in the fall .
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
You obviously don't stay for the credits at the end of films, especially the Marvel and Pixar films. The worst I've seen is that the credits include the name of the caterer who provided the meals for the crew, and the entire in-house legal staff.
Being listed in the credits is not the same as being listed as cast. The cast is in the credits but not everyone in the credits is in the cast.
 

flynnibus

Premium Member
I'm more and more excited about the second half of my trip than I am about the first. No real planning, no dinner reservations (almost everyone has told me there's plenty of good eats with walk up availability) and no stupid ride reservations.

I hope this message reaches the ears of those who are in charge. Im your target audience. Female, solid job, single, early 30s, no children, disposable income. More or less a WDW noob. I haven't even hit on the lack of new rides compared to those up the street because frankly, there's new rides up the street and I'll spend my money and time there. Is...is this what you want? o_O

Roll those savings into a discovery cove ticket and enjoy what relaxing vacation day in Orlando should feel like... The hit aquatic and and sea world on another day
 

BrerJon

Well-Known Member
(quoting Bob Iger)
"And we have every reason to expect the excitement and enthusiasm will continue. In Shanghai, awareness of our park is virtually universal and intent to visit is extremely high. It's obviously far too early to identify trends and make forecasts or projections, but Shanghai Disney Resort is clearly off to a strong start. Before the gates even opened, we were already planning for the future. Our first expansion is now under construction and we have plenty of room to add new lands, attractions, hotels and more."

Might that be about $800M worth of attractions, Bob? We're still waiting to hear where that 'opening day' money went. Have you checked behind the sofa?
 

TeriofTerror

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Saw it. We criticize Disney in a few more places this year: on prices; the Norway/Maelstrom decision; and the Disney/Pixar Short Film Festival, in particular (where I say "It must have been a surprise to Disney management when Michael Jackson continued to be dead for six more years, because...") And that kind of writing is different than the kind of coverage in most other travel books, for any destination.

I was a little more concerned about the "pushing to use a travel agent" comment. We may not have done a good job explaining the value proposition there. And the "I didn't get much out of the book" thing is interesting for an 800+-page volume. It's one review. We'll see what happens as more people read it.
I freaking loved it. I thought Bob's comments regarding pricing were spot on, and the dedication was heartwarming, respectful, and (for lack of a better word) classy.
It probably doesn't hurt that I'm quoted in the book, as well. ;)
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Being listed in the credits is not the same as being listed as cast. The cast is in the credits but not everyone in the credits is in the cast.

The idea that everyone is a 'Cast Member' came from Walt who wanted to instill that EVERYONE in the company was part of the 'Production' whether their roles were onstage or offstage. That's where EVERYONE is a CM came from.
 

Jones14

Well-Known Member
The idea that everyone is a 'Cast Member' came from Walt who wanted to instill that EVERYONE in the company was part of the 'Production' whether their roles were onstage or offstage. That's where EVERYONE is a CM came from.
Yes, but even so, that really only applied to Disneyland employees. The animators in the studios were not called cast members, they were called animators. That's what I think they're talking about.
 

ThemeParkJunkee

Well-Known Member
Saw it. We criticize Disney in a few more places this year: on prices; the Norway/Maelstrom decision; and the Disney/Pixar Short Film Festival, in particular (where I say "It must have been a surprise to Disney management when Michael Jackson continued to be dead for six more years, because...") And that kind of writing is different than the kind of coverage in most other travel books, for any destination.

I was a little more concerned about the "pushing to use a travel agent" comment. We may not have done a good job explaining the value proposition there. And the "I didn't get much out of the book" thing is interesting for an 800+-page volume. It's one review. We'll see what happens as more people read it.

Oh for pete's sake...the irreverent honesty is the reason I buy the Unofficial guide and not Birnbaum or Passporter or order a Disney official planning guide. It is also the reason I recommend it to everyone. Who wants to regret a decision of what to do based on a glowing review of Stitches Great Escape. The "pushing to use a travel agent comment" may come from the fact that some of us plan our own vacations quite well thank you very much but I'm sure the suggestion was for the less savvy planner or person without the hours and hours of research and booking requirements today's WDW almost requires.
 

Mike S

Well-Known Member
I freaking loved it. I thought Bob's comments regarding pricing were spot on, and the dedication was heartwarming, respectful, and (for lack of a better word) classy.
It probably doesn't hurt that I'm quoted in the book, as well. ;)
How were you quoted? A comment from this site? I wonder who else...
I kid you not; I have Sea and Storm's four Haunted Mansion/Jaws mash-up prints hanging above my fireplace mantle. It's like chocolate and peanut butter - I love them both too much to resist!
HM + Jaws? I'll have to look that up :)
 

VJ

Well-Known Member
MSEP is coming back to Disneyland (with Paint the Night returning during the holiday season), leaving WDW in the fall. Honestly, I hadn't heard at all that it was coming back to Disneyland so I was sort of blindsided by that news...
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
The idea that everyone is a 'Cast Member' came from Walt who wanted to instill that EVERYONE in the company was part of the 'Production' whether their roles were onstage or offstage. That's where EVERYONE is a CM came from.
No, it came from Michael Eisner and your explanation is still stupid. A Best Boy is still part of the production but not a member of the cast. Before the mid-80s it was the front line employees of Disneyland and it was a more external usage. Even through the 70s the company would internally refer to the "employees" of Disneyland and Walt Disney World.
 

Mike S

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