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ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
I don't think it's being justified here. There is a cultural difference in the way cheating is viewed but that does not mean that it should be acceptable. I agree that people cheat because it's easy. But if it is not taboo/have repercussions, then more people will likely choose the easier way to get things done. My American students cheat all the time, but they try to be sneaky about it because they know it's not acceptable. My Chinese students who are studying abroad for the first time will not bother to try to hide their cheating because they assume no one will call them out for it, so it differs because in the U.S. they are held more accountable. I think that's the difference I was trying to point out. In my value system, anyone who cheats is wrong and needs to be educated about the honors system.

Precisely, And in my friend's case these are Masters and Doctoral candidates with undergraduate degrees from leading Chinese universities not frosh.
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Well They always seemed to operate independent and not be looking for a hand out from the mouse. That seems to be what differentiates organizations these days.

Well there are bloggers and Blog Whores - the free stuff from the mouse squad falls into the latter category, But Fadra Nally's success has always puzzled me does she have pictures from a holiday party ????
 

Figments Friend

Well-Known Member
I regret never making it to the mermaid show at Weekee Wachee

It was a terrific oddity.
Pure 'old school touristy' Florida.

Saw the show back in the early 80s as a twelve year old and thought it was a fun slice of afternoon entertainment.

All those 'original' spots back in the day were great road trips when I lived in FL.
Silver Springs, Sunken Gardens, Gator Land, Six Gun Territory, Weekee Wachee, old school Busch Gardens ( 'The Dark Continent' ! ) .
They were all unique and different enough from one another that warranted a visit to them all back then.
It was well before the crass commercialism and feverish need for 'thrills' that crept in during later years.
A lot of those places relied on the pre-existing natural beauty.
Even Sea World was more enjoyable back then ( to me, at least ).

I love a slice of 'old school touristy' Florida!

:)

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Cesar R M

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Burtonland 2's box-office was brutal. Less then 27 million over the weekend with Memorial Day only bringing it up to 34.
http://www.laughingplace.com/w/blogs/disney-buzz/2016/05/31/new-game-alicemadelessthan/

LaughingPlace has produced this list of just how bad this is.
I actually wonder why the disproportionate disgust towards Alice? is is the whole Depp vs Amber issue?
I know extreme feminists are pushing for "boycott" Depp movies (and pretty sure that women are a big fanbase of Depp)
 

Cesar R M

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Cesar R M

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I don't think it's being justified here. There is a cultural difference in the way cheating is viewed but that does not mean that it should be acceptable. I agree that people cheat because it's easy. But if it is not taboo/have repercussions, then more people will likely choose the easier way to get things done. My American students cheat all the time, but they try to be sneaky about it because they know it's not acceptable. My Chinese students who are studying abroad for the first time will not bother to try to hide their cheating because they assume no one will call them out for it, so it differs because in the U.S. they are held more accountable. I think that's the difference I was trying to point out. In my value system, anyone who cheats is wrong and needs to be educated about the honors system.
Wishing accountability was also from top to bottom, not the bottom only ;)
Reminds me of that read I did about the psychology of business and the difference in the USA vs World.
Where in most the world is frowned when the "boss" takes the credit for jobs well done by their underlings, but in USA is encouraged and boasted (specially inflating the resume of someone)
 

Cesar R M

Well-Known Member
The most famous member of the Disney Mom's panel, She has a 'website' 'all things fadra' which at last count had around 3000 hits most of them probably from this forum. She now appears to be blog pimping for Hershey Park. @WDW1974 has some fun Fadra references
I always laugh at that.
Remember how funny it was how she boasted of being in mommy's panels giveaway parties, yet her "blog" and video pages hardly had more than 100 views (and thats after someone posted the link on this forum a few years ago).
I still do not get how Disney wastes so much money on this group and just hire an actor/mother to do the recommendations.
 

the.dreamfinder

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I know the ing contest between the Weatherman and Mr. Wang Jialin is very entertaining, but a very important development occurred last week. Federal Judge Lucy Koh of the United States District Court certified the class in the lawsuit against Disney and Pixar Animation, Industrial Light and Magic/Lucasfilm, DreamWorks Animation among others who have settled over a cartel of executives who conspired to suppress the wages of 10,000 animation and VFX artists. The defendants, led by Disney, have argued for the past year that the case should be thrown out on the grounds that the workers don't have a case and many of the workers would be ineligible to be part of the class. If the artists win, this could mean big changes at Pixar and ILM, both of which are non-union shops that have leaderships who have argued unionization would hurt the "culture" of their companies and management is capable of providing for workers by itself.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/judge-certifies-class-animators-anti-897748

disneystrike_j.jpg

The news comes as this Sunday marked the 75th anniversary of the Disney Strike of 1941, which lead to the unionization of the Disney Studio after a bitter and personal conflict between Walt and his artists. The strike forever changed Walt's relationship with his artists, which had previously emphasized a family like quality not unlike Pixar's obsession with culture. But because of the strike, Walt Disney Animation artists have a union that looks out for their interests and ensures the company provide them a living wage for their hard work.
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/artist-r...-disney-animation-changed-forever-140103.html
 
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ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
I know the ****ing contest between the Weatherman and Mr. Wang Jialin is very entertaining, but a very important development occurred last week. Federal Judge Lucy Koh of the United States District Court certified the class in the lawsuit against Disney and Pixar Animation, Industrial Light and Magic/Lucasfilm, DreamWorks Animation among others who have settled over a cartel of executives who conspired to suppress the wages of 10,000 animation and VFX artists. The defendants, led by Disney, have argued for the past year that the case should be thrown out on the grounds that the workers don't have a case and many of the workers would be ineligible to be part of the class. If the artists win, this could mean big changes at Pixar and ILM, both of which are non-union shops that have leaderships that have argued that unionization would hurt the "culture" of their companies and management is capable of providing for workers by itself.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/thr-esq/judge-certifies-class-animators-anti-897748

disneystrike_j.jpg

The news comes as this Sunday marked the 75th anniversary of the Disney Strike of 1941, which lead to the unionization of the Disney Studio after a bitter and personal conflict between Walt and his artists. The strike forever changed Walt's relationship with his artists, which had previously emphasized a family like quality not unlike Pixar's obsession with culture. But because of the strike, Walt Disney Animation artists have a union that looks out for their interests and ensures the company provide them a living wage for their hard work.
http://www.cartoonbrew.com/artist-r...-disney-animation-changed-forever-140103.html

It's a pyrrhic victory anyhow now disney will just move animation to singapore.
 

MerlinTheGoat

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Probably because Depp is now an Eeeevilll white man and must be crushed.
This Depp vs Heard garbage is why I hate celeb gossip. I avoid it like the plague whenever possible, but have been unable to escape hearing about this one even when trying.

First it was "Old and ugly Depp beats his lovely innocent wife, she sues and his career is finished". Now the story has morphed to her being a gold digger that has gotten accustomed to a privileged lifestyle and wants to steal all his money. I don't put it past either side lying (the truth may well lie in the middle with both sides being part true).

What a disgusting mess. Blow me to Bermuda.
 
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Mike S

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I actually wonder why the disproportionate disgust towards Alice? is is the whole Depp vs Amber issue?
I know extreme feminists are pushing for "boycott" Depp movies (and pretty sure that women are a big fanbase of Depp)
None of that. The movie's just bad.
are these for one day only? or are they adding the "surges" to the package tickets as well?
One day as far as I've read.
 

GoofGoof

Premium Member
I actually wonder why the disproportionate disgust towards Alice? is is the whole Depp vs Amber issue?
I know extreme feminists are pushing for "boycott" Depp movies (and pretty sure that women are a big fanbase of Depp)
The movie probably just sucks. The first one was OK, but largely popular because it was weird or different not necessarily because it was a good movie. Weird/different doesn't work for a sequel.
 

tirian

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The movie probably just sucks. The first one was OK, but largely popular because it was weird or different not necessarily because it was a good movie. Weird/different doesn't work for a sequel.
By most accounts, the new "Alice" is simply a terrible movie. The first one wasn't particularly good either, but audiences were still enthralled with the new 3-D popularized by Avatar.
 

Next Big Thing

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Everyone can say "told ya so" now with Alice flopping, but Disney is on pace to break all yearly Box Office records EVER this year. Yeah, the studio relies too much on francises/brand name, but Disney isn't gonna give a crap about one failed film out of the bunch. They're already over $4 Billion worldwide only 5 months into the year.

I'd love to see better live action movies, some of Oscar quality, but the reality is Disney makes too much money doing what they're currently doing to change.
 

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