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A Spirited 15 Rounds ...

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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Finally, it seems like that 3.6 earthquake Monday night was centered under Michael Eisner's home. Hey, God (not that you exist or anything), I think you were a little late. You are looking for Bob and Willow's place!
Can you elaborate any more on the state of grime that SW:GE will have? Like, the place will feel dirty and scummy...or it will literally leave you covered in crap?
 

Hatbox Ghostbuster

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Spirited Quick Hits (Because I Don't Have the Energy for Multiple Quickees right now!):

DPB had some sorta event at DCA involving NASA, WDI and Marvel and ... as usual ... every blogger or Disney Twit in existence was there.

Speaking of bloggers, do they have a secret lair (like the Batcave, only smaller, smellier and way less kewl) where they discuss where they have to be? Like this year we'll all skip the Run Disney event at DLP because we must 'cover' the new HalloweenTime stuff at DCA?

Saw people discussing a massive amount of UNI-FLA projects coming and all I can say is -- much like all the WDW projects -- not so fast. A good third of what is being talked about either won't happen or will but many moons from now.

I hear people are making all sorts of predictions about the UK attraction for EPCOT. Good to see some people are braver than others.

Yes, 'tis true. Bob Iger and Co descended on DLP this week because ... well, because it hasn't been utterly destroyed yet by the IP parade. I've said it before and it deserves repeating, but DLP's financial issues over the years have prevented it from being ripped apart like other beloved parks. Indeed, rip out Buzz Lightyear and the park is still thematically as true as it was on Day 1 except, perhaps, merchandise.

Why was Bob there? Simple. To go over current plans for the resort and get final pitches on some major projects likely to be approved soon. Looks like most will be things we've already known with a greater Marvel presence in WDSP at the forefront. I doubt very much that we'll see Pandora in this park, even if that has been the plan dating to 2011.

Got a laugh out of Disney Blogger to the Stars, @WDWFigment 's, post about staying at CBR now. Amazing that Disney refuses to simply shutter the place until 2019 or offer rooms for $50 a night. Nope. Not their style. People who are staying there now are insane. Oh, also had to laugh at Tom's naivete thinking those rooms would be $300 in 2019. He must have meant Pop Century. CBR will be looking at $400-500 rooms.

Oh, the EPCOT Winter (but not Holiday) Food and Wine Fest will be daily in 2018? Who could have ever seen that one coming?

Turmoil on multiple Star Wars films? No, you don't say.

I just love Jimmy Kimmel. What a great entertainer and a better person.

Back to SW, have heard lots of criticism of Galaxy's Edge from people inside and while I wish I could share, I can't. But one thing that was said to me was something I have been thinking about and that is how "dirty and grimy" the land will be. That might work in a third gate in the swamps. But it certainly will stand out in Anaheim ... in Walt's park.

Another criticism would be how much this project is going out of its way to, unlike WWoHP, not take you into places from the SW universe, but to create a new and related realm. How would Potter have fared if you didn't go to Hogwarts and drink butterbeer in the Three Broomsticks and buy a wand at Ollivander's? Bob Iger wants a world 'based' on 'his' SW universe, but not necessarily taking place in it.

Oh, and as little regard as you might have for Toy Story Land, you might even want to temper that back a bit.

Makes me nostalgic for a simpler era like this
... yeah, I know, no FP, no Anna and Elsa, no timeshares, no ECVs, no Thor and Gamora, no Rey and Chewie etc etc. That's my Disney, not today's. Good thing TDR still exists (for how long?)

How did Dakota get into SDL's Club 33? I did get an invite myself ... weeks after I had visited but still ... (and y'all know how jealous I am of bloggers and Tweeters and the like because my fans tell you this and they know me!)

Don't know why people are insisting Moana is going into Tiki Room in FL. Also, some Brit blogger/personality credited this site with breaking the news that it was flying away and ... and ... then gave credit for the story to that bloke @marni1971?!?!? What do you have to do in 2017 to be properly credited for anything in the fan world?

Next thing you know Brooks Barnes will be ... oh, that already happened.

Lots of Anaheim news ... and no one either knows what is going on or sees fit to write about it.

Finally, apologies to the four of you here that I owe notes to. I just have not had time. Hopefully, this weekend I will.
Also, I wouldn't lose any sleep over something DSNY Newscast says (assuming he's the brit bloke blogger you're referring to). All he does is take other insider news and yell it out to his followers from a couch in his parents house. Has he ever even been to the parks?
 
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Ag11gani

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Can you elaborate any more on the state of grime that SW:GE will have? Like, the place will feel dirty and scummy...or it will literally leave you covered in crap?
I'm guessing he means, like AK, it will feel dirty and as if it is badly maintained and everything is falling apart, not acctualy dirty. Although with all the people dropping their trash it probably will.
 

WDWTank

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I hate to be a party pooper, but I only believe six (give or take two) of those will have a chance at happening pre-2021, and the others are just questionable. But there are also a few things that list doesn't cover...
They won't close Men in Black, right?!
 

njDizFan

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I hear people are making all sorts of predictions about the UK attraction for EPCOT. Good to see some people are braver than others.
"Braver" huh....as I expected, princesses everywhere.

Back to SW, have heard lots of criticism of Galaxy's Edge from people inside and while I wish I could share, I can't. But one thing that was said to me was something I have been thinking about and that is how "dirty and grimy" the land will be. That might work in a third gate in the swamps. But it certainly will stand out in Anaheim ... in Walt's park.
Although this may be a great attraction(s), what an eyesore on Walt's park.

Oh, and as little regard as you might have for Toy Story Land, you might even want to temper that back a bit.
I didn't even think that was possible.
 

WDWTank

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Agreed. Disney Animation has had an excellent run over the past decade and they've been doing it without much in the way of slam dunk pre-existing source material. We all look at Frozen as a "franchise" now, but the fact that Disney was able to *create* that franchise in the first place is the epitome of organic growth.

Also, as I've mentioned in some other threads, Marvel might have been an acquisition, but its transformation into a movie juggernaut was very clearly under the Disney watch. It's easy to go back and look at Marvel as simple a mass addition to the Disney IP portfolio that could be "plug and play", but that was hardly the case at the time of the acquisition. Remember that Disney's purchase didn't include any movie rights to the most popular Marvel IPs (e.g. Spider-Man, X-Men, Fantastic Four) and they were literally going off the success of only the first Iron Man movie. There's absolutely no one in Hollywood that would have reasonably told you 10 years ago that movies featuring Captain America and Thor would be consistently beating Spider-Man, X-Men and Fantastic Four movies in gross box office revenue (to the point where Sony needed Disney's Marvel unit to step back in to help the Spider-Man franchise, which would be like Disney outsourcing the production of Frozen 2 to Universal) while Guardians of the Galaxy (much less The Avengers) would turn into a cornerstone mega-franchise. Anyone telling you differently would be a liar.

To be sure, I would say that the Lucasfilm and Pixar acquisitions were much more "plug and play" by comparison where Disney's main objectives were to not screw them up. Pretty much every reasonable person knew that a simply competent Star Wars movie would be a runaway success when Disney acquired Lucasfilm. However, that definitely wasn't the case with the Marvel Cinematic Universe, so Disney ought to get credit for its success (even if it was a matter of simply being smart enough to get out of the way of the Marvel creative leadership). If Disney sold off Marvel today, it would be worth exponentially more than what it had acquired it for in 2009.
Why can't they do theme parks like animation?
 

trainplane3

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Makes me nostalgic for a simpler era like this
... yeah, I know, no FP, no Anna and Elsa, no timeshares, no ECVs, no Thor and Gamora, no Rey and Chewie etc etc. That's my Disney, not today's. Good thing TDR still exists (for how long?)

Don't know why people are insisting Moana is going into Tiki Room in FL. Also, some Brit blogger/personality credited this site with breaking the news that it was flying away and ... and ... then gave credit for the story to that bloke @marni1971?!?!? What do you have to do in 2017 to be properly credited for anything in the fan world?
First off, I cut out most of your post to make it easier to see what I'm responding to.

Man, hearing how great TDR is really makes me want to go. Between Gundam Front re-opening, having a Disney park "next door", and interesting food all around Tokyo just seals the deal with me. If they built a third gate that's a Epcot-ish clone, that'd seal the deal for me naming it the "best park ever without even being there". I'd assume they could run Epcot right.

And yep, "SOMEONE" (we know who it is) didn't read the whole thread again. One day they'll read right? @marni1971 you're in the same country as the kid right? Why don't you "visit" him for us :p . Who am I kidding, these Youtube bloggers are clickbait. Only two that I know of are decent and border on clickbait but their research and resource credits save them.
 
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the.dreamfinder

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Can you elaborate any more on the state of grime that SW:GE will have? Like, the place will feel dirty and scummy...or it will literally leave you covered in crap?
They’re going to ‘cook’ your food using old pod racer engines.

Tight walkways littered with stuff inspired by old cities like Casablanca, Tangiers and Jerusalem.


I dunno. Maybe Star Wars is a terrible thematic fit for Disneyland because it doesn’t adhere to the design philosophies that undergird the park. :rolleyes:
 

WDWTank

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DHS was a pleasant ghost town today with ToT being a walk on during most of our time there.
Went to 50s Prime Time for the first time and was quite disappointed in our server. The food was OK, but we didn't really get the full experience. He brought our food and we never saw him again until we got the check and clean plate stickers. I don't want to sound sexist, but I hope we get a "Mom" next time. This seems to be my luck as we also recently went to Whispering Canyon and had about the same experience. We watched everyone else around us having fun with awesome servers, and ours didn't seem like they wanted to be there. Oh, well. Luck of the draw I guess.
50's Prime time is truly one of the best restaurants in WDW not only for food, but for service. Definitely not a good first impression of that restaurant.
 

ford91exploder

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Again I see this argument and there's some good points, but like a lot of reading around here recently it's selective. Disneys classic animation division was suffering in the 80s, had a huge revival in the late 80's with Little Mermaid that lasted into the mid 90s but then fell away again. Disneys latest output in their classic animation division, and by that I mean Tangled, Wreck it Ralph, Frozen, Big Hero 6, Zootropolis and Moana have all been VERY well received and very popular. In fact, I'd argue they are in an era compariable only to the 1950s....there's a complete mismatch to how these films are loved, and performing to how the current era is being viewed on this forum.

Frozen was HUGE. People may not like it, but it can't be selectively brushed under the carpet as if it didn't happen.
Frozen was indeed huge and is loved by girls of all ages, Yet what does Disney do with it. Cardboard Olaf on a stick. They could use Frozen in the parks with no issues yet they refuse to and turn themselves inside out trying to Shoehorn MARVEL crap where it does not belong

Only OLC is spending the money to give Frozen the attraction it DESERVES.
 

WDWTank

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They’re going to ‘cook’ your food using old pod racer engines.

Tight walkways littered with stuff inspired by old cities like Casablanca, Tangiers and Jerusalem.


I dunno. Maybe Star Wars is a terrible thematic fit for Disneyland because it doesn’t adhere to the design philosophies that undergird the park. :rolleyes:
Honestly, this looks Awesome. The best theme parks cannot be distinguished between fiction or reality
The inner consciousness of guests would not be aware of their surroundings :)
 

the.dreamfinder

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So while we’re on the subject of SW:GE, how about the scale of the land? Haven’t been following ShesInLosAngeles video updates for a couple of months, so I decided to watch her lastest dispatches...

OH MY GOD, THIS LAND IS GOING TO BREAK DISNEYLAND!!

Even if you account for her perspective from the top of Mickey and Friends, this land is going to look over the park even more dramatically than I had feared. Sure they built a berm and planted pine trees, with more on the way, but SW:GE will be visible inside the park and guests will feel the difference in scale between Disneyland proper and it.

Edit: Have any locals been to DL since it was topped out?
 

shortstop

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So while we’re on the subject of SW:GE, how about the scale of the land? Haven’t been following ShesInLosAngeles video updates for a couple of months, so I decided to watch her lastest dispatches...

OH MY GOD, THIS LAND IS GOING TO BREAK DISNEYLAND!!

Even if you account for her perspective from the top of Mickey and Friends, this land is going to look over the park even more dramatically than I had feared. Sure they built a berm and planted pine trees, with more on the way, but SW:GE will be visible inside the park and guests will feel the difference in scale between Disneyland proper and it.

Edit: Have any locals been to DL since it was topped out?
The most guests will see of it is the tippy top of the rock spires. @TP2000 can you speak to this?
 
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