A Spirited 15 Rounds ...

[AEfx]

I doubt they can totally salvage it, but I imagine they try, and dragging out to two films probably wouldn't help in the end.

I think it might, in so far as there would then actually be a chance to do something with the supposed new "main" characters.

So far, they have barely interacted with each other. Poe might as well be "any guy standing around in a flight suit" for the most part. Finn has just been lusty-mc-lusterson with bad, convoluted, utilmately-a-failure plans. Rey has gotten a lot of screentime, unfortunately so much was wasted in TLJ on that Space-Twilight nonsense.

If they did, two films that were actually planned out together (wow! imagine that!) might actually tell a compelling story for them, yet.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Episode IX should open with Luke in a cold sweat waking from some sort of Force vision dream.

 

[Cosmic Commando]

There's no law that says it has to be a trilogy. If you're going to split episode IX into two parts (which I think I would actually prefer as long as they have a story they think is worthy of two more movies), for the love of the Force, make it Episode X; don't make Episode IX.V

 

[asianway]

Episode IX should open with Luke in a cold sweat waking from some sort of Force vision dream.

The only acceptable beginning

 

[Clopin Trouillefou]

Can you explain what you mean by identity politics?

He means that even though Roses story sucked, from the wild goose chase, to the horses, to the kiss, it’s being held up as Oscar worthy writing simply because she’s Asian

And while I have no issue with Rey having Yoda like powers, many do because they feel it is at the expense of making Luke look like a wimp

I mean no offense whatsoever, you don't know that he means that. he could very well mean "stop casting people of color," which I think is why a clarification was requested.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Ep.9 should be four hours long with an intermission.

 

[RSoxNo1]

I think the Academy finally jumped the shark today.

So can the winner of the "Most Popular" Oscar also win "Best Picture"? Or can a movie only be nominated for one of those awards? If it's one or the other, what's the criteria? For example, would Get Out have been nominated for "Most Popular" if the award had existed last year?

I don't see how this solves anything. It just adds another term to the critical discourse: popular. A movie can be good but not popular, popular but not good, and potentially not good AND popular.

Not to mention, ten Best Picture nominees is already overkill; having another 5-10 for the Most Popular category just shines a light on how mediocre Hollywood filmmaking has become.

I think they need to remove the stick from their butts with the nominations for best picture. That's all. It's possible for a popcorn movie to also be a great movie. There's a Bill Simmons suggestion that Best Picture and other awards should have a 5 year waiting period to see which movies stand the test of time. Look at 2009 for example. Slumdog Millionaire won best picture, Frost/Nixon, Milk, The Reader and Benjamin Button were the other nominees. Of those 5 movies, I agree Slumdog Millionaire is the best picture, but The Dark Knight is significantly better than any of them. Rewatchability should count for something. In recent years, I don't think the masses or the academy would/should have had much objection to the likes of Get Out or The Martian winning their respective years.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

It's possible for a popcorn movie to also be a great movie.

Of course.

But Justice League, Despicable Me 3, Beauty and the Beast, Jumanji, Wonder Woman and The Last Jedi were not "great" movies, despite all being among the top 10 domestic grossing films of 2017.

Is it so awful to suggest the general public, who only go to see 3-4 tent pole films a year, may not have the best taste or even be the most informed judges?

If nothing else, the Academy and its campaign for winners does build awareness for some smaller films.

 

[RSoxNo1]

Of course.

But Justice League, Despicable Me 3, Beauty and the Beast, Jumanji, Wonder Woman and The Last Jedi were not "great" movies, despite all being among the top 10 domestic grossing films of 2017.

Is it so awful to suggest the general public, who only go to see 3-4 tent pole films a year, may not have the best taste or even be the most informed judges?

If nothing else, the Academy and its campaign for winners does build awareness for some smaller films.

I agree, but more often that not when I watch an Oscar nominated movie I walk away saying, "that was a good movie that I never want to see again." I saw Infinity War 3 times in theaters and will be buying it on Tuesday. Black Panther was a cultural phenomenon and that shouldn't be dismissed. Hell, The Hangover came out in 2009 as well as The Dark Knight and both are better overall movies than any of the best picture nominations.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

I agree, but more often that not when I watch an Oscar nominated movie I walk away saying, "that was a good movie that I never want to see again."

That's how I feel about most movies, but that's because I'm too cheap to pay movie theater ticket and concession prices every time I want to watch one, lol.

 

[asianway]

https://deadline.com/2018/08/james-...disney-eleventh-hour-save-attempt-1202443199/

The rumor/leak mill has been running overtime on Gunn for the last 2 days.

Regardless of what happens next...it looks like Gunn’s career is far from over.

How about them pics going around today?

 

[RSoxNo1]

How about them pics going around today?

Not sure what you're talking about.

 

[Rodan75]

How about them pics going around today?

No clue what you are talking about.

Edit - apparently the attack groups are circulating photos of Gunn in a Halloween costume on Twitter. To try and restore the outrage.

I’m not giving that insincere movement another ounce of attention.

 

[AEfx]

No clue what you are talking about.

Edit - apparently the attack groups are circulating photos of Gunn in a Halloween costume on Twitter. To try and restore the outrage.

I’m not giving that insincere movement another ounce of attention.

Oh wow - is it that bad?

 

[Rodan75]

Oh wow - is it that bad?

It isn’t. The costume is sold at every costume shop so that the same joke can be played out.

 

[AEfx]

It isn’t. The costume is sold at every costume shop so that the same joke can be played out.

I was just kidding, because I assumed it wasn't a big deal. Well, after all this talk - I just sought it out, and wow - it is pretty bad. It may not change anyone's mind, but I think it's getting to be a bit too much to say that people are just "digging" - why is so much of this stuff around to dig up?

That said, it isn't about his costume.

It's about the fact that he was at a "To Catch A Predator" party themed around freaking pedophilia. And pictures of him with adults dressed like children posing pretending to be being abused.

I'm sorry, that's just freaking sicko. If I am Disney, and I am investing money into GoG as a franchise, including theme park attractions (it will be the first big Marvel attraction at WDW, it already is a super-popular one at DCA), I get why they don't want him anywhere near the brand.

 

[asianway]

I was just kidding, because I assumed it wasn't a big deal. Well, after all this talk - I just sought it out, and wow - it is pretty bad. It may not change anyone's mind, but I think it's getting to be a bit too much to say that people are just "digging" - why is so much of this stuff around to dig up?

That said, it isn't about his costume.

It's about the fact that he was at a "To Catch A Predator" party themed around freaking pedophilia. And pictures of him with adults dressed like children posing pretending to be being abused.

I'm sorry, that's just freaking sicko. If I am Disney, and I am investing money into GoG as a franchise, including theme park attractions (it will be the first big Marvel attraction at WDW, it already is a super-popular one at DCA), I get why they don't want him anywhere near the brand.

Amazing how DisTwitter clams up when stuff like this surfaces.

Also it appears we re-entered the denial phase

 

[Kman101]

I think it might, in so far as there would then actually be a chance to do something with the supposed new "main" characters.

So far, they have barely interacted with each other. Poe might as well be "any guy standing around in a flight suit" for the most part. Finn has just been lusty-mc-lusterson with bad, convoluted, utilmately-a-failure plans. Rey has gotten a lot of screentime, unfortunately so much was wasted in TLJ on that Space-Twilight nonsense.

If they did, two films that were actually planned out together (wow! imagine that!) might actually tell a compelling story for them, yet.

Well, you aren't wrong. I didn't despise TLJ like some but I won't deny I took a lot of issues with it. I just think certain fans bypass real issues for "I didn't like that!" ... not you, this is so accurate. LOL.

You've kind of talked me into the idea of splitting it into two, but I fear the fatigue and the length. But you make a good point why it would be beneficial, and probably a smart thing to do. It gives them a lot more room to grow. My problem has long been the characterizations. It lacked a bit in the first one, the second one was a total mess. And the third wraps things up. Both films tried to do too many things. I'm trying not to get too into it as I could probably write a couple paragraphs on this ...

 

[asianway]

I mean no offense whatsoever, you don't know that he means that. he could very well mean "stop casting people of color," which I think is why a clarification was requested.

Sounds like you’re just trying to lay a trap

 

[Kman101]

I was just kidding, because I assumed it wasn't a big deal. Well, after all this talk - I just sought it out, and wow - it is pretty bad. It may not change anyone's mind, but I think it's getting to be a bit too much to say that people are just "digging" - why is so much of this stuff around to dig up?

That said, it isn't about his costume.

It's about the fact that he was at a "To Catch A Predator" party themed around freaking pedophilia. And pictures of him with adults dressed like children posing pretending to be being abused.

I'm sorry, that's just freaking sicko. If I am Disney, and I am investing money into GoG as a franchise, including theme park attractions (it will be the first big Marvel attraction at WDW, it already is a super-popular one at DCA), I get why they don't want him anywhere near the brand.

Yep, he was wrong and it is sick. But none of us still don't "know him". I can see why Disney is hesitant to say or do anything (they clam up and hope it goes away) but they have gotten some pushback on this. It's not the problem they fired him, for me, it's how they look hypocritical and I think that's why Batista was speaking out (even though he shouldn't). I know it's hard to say they're hypocritical but they come off that way. They *knew about his tweets* when they hired him. This was already an issue. And they chose to hire him. Now in the current age, their hand was forced. I get they had to do what they had to. I'm not saying his firing wasn't justified, personally, it just looks hypocritical to do it now when it was already a problem and they knew about the tweets, and he's since gone on to make two great (IMO, though the second one felt like it dragged after a promising start) Guardians films.