A Spirited 15 Rounds ...

AEfx

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Good. They might get me back as a Passholder once this park opens and we finally get Nintendo. Everything else they're doing right now is lame except the Harry Potter coaster. Might make one trip for that next year.

So its true that they have cancelled Nintendo for the Studios? I saw that in an article about the purchase but wasn't sure if it was true or not, as you can never tell with those regular media articles who don't know that Pandora or Potter isn't a "theme park".
 

HauntedMansionFLA

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Good. They might get me back as a Passholder once this park opens and we finally get Nintendo. Everything else they're doing right now is lame except the Harry Potter coaster. Might make one trip for that next year.
I’m a Star Wars fan from the beginning and excited about the new land. I will have to wait and how this universe that we aren’t familiar with plays out. I have never to Universal. I’ve heard the Potter stuff is great and really enjoyed the movies. I think I most excited about the possibilities of what they can bring to the parks with Nintendo. There are so many popular characters that they can use. Very excited. Also, I wish for a Godzilla Vs. Kong attraction.
Is Lord Of The Rings theme park rights back in play? I know Disney will never get them because Tolkien hated walt and what he would do to classic literature.
 

The Empress Lilly

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Actually, I'd be quite proud to know I had a hand in driving him out. Dealing with that toxicity for insider scoop (which isn't always right, and I'm looking at you SWL in 2021 and Haunted Mansion Restaurant) is a Faustian bargain. Not worth it. IMO.

Bye, Felicia. Can't wait to read your own blog you didn't start last year.
Rather than having trolled away a member and patting yourself on the back over it, you simply could've not opened his threads. :bookworm:
 

Mike S

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So its true that they have cancelled Nintendo for the Studios? I saw that in an article about the purchase but wasn't sure if it was true or not, as you can never tell with those regular media articles who don't know that Pandora or Potter isn't a "theme park".
The insiders on Orlando United all say so and I’m the only one calling on the BS of how long we’ll have to wait. Everyone else just laps it up.
 

AEfx

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The insiders on Orlando United all say so and I’m the only one calling on the BS of how long we’ll have to wait. Everyone else just laps it up.

Well, take comfort in the fact that you still will likely see it sooner than if Disney had gotten the license. :)

Don't want to derail further too much here - but do we know anything about what this new park is?
 

the.dreamfinder

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The insiders on Orlando United all say so and I’m the only one calling on the BS of how long we’ll have to wait. Everyone else just laps it up.
There was this whole “SNW is our counter punch to GE and WDW 50” narrative that works better than “third gate, ASAP!” A SNW for a Studios Park is going up right now in Osaka, with a show building now enclosed. It’s hard to believe that they’re going to abandon all that work to keep USO relevant in service of the next gate, which still has plenty of IP to draw from.

I really want to see UNI continue to seriously invest in the two existing gates and not rush this new park through because they haven’t learned anything from Disney.
 
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PizzaPlanet

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The insiders on Orlando United all say so and I’m the only one calling on the BS of how long we’ll have to wait. Everyone else just laps it up.
It's amusing how Uni fans used to make fun of the time it took for Pandora to go from announcement to opening, yet here we are three years after the Nintendo announcement and we still have zero details about what's happening in Orlando. At least with Pandora we knew what theme park it was going in from the start.
 

AEfx

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It's amusing how Uni fans used to make fun of the time it took for Pandora to go from announcement to opening, yet here we are three years after the Nintendo announcement and we still have zero details about what's happening in Orlando. At least with Pandora we knew what theme park it was going in from the start.

And the roles will reverse yet again when Universal ends up building a third park in less time than it took to build that hill in NFL...
 

Mike S

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There was this whole “SNW is our counter punch to GE and WDW 50” narrative that works better than “third gate, ASAP!” A SNW for a Studios Park is going up right now in Osaka, with a show building now enclosed. It’s hard to believe that they’re going to abandon all that work to keep USO relevant in service of the next gate, which still has plenty of IP to draw from.

I really want to see UNI continue to seriously invest in the two existing gates and not rush this new park through because they haven’t learned anything from Disney.
I don’t think it’ll end up half built but it is upsetting if they’re holding Mario back for it. Apparently the rush is because they didn’t expect to have all the land they wanted so soon. They thought it would take longer.
 

the.dreamfinder

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I don’t think it’ll end up half built but it is upsetting if they’re holding Mario back for it. Apparently the rush is because they didn’t expect to have all the land they wanted so soon. They thought it would take longer.
Gate three being a half day park seems unlikely. Rather, my concern stems from Disney’s inability to properly invest in their other parks after DAK opened in 98 through to today. USF and IoA had pretty good roadmaps for major additions like Super Nintendo World to prepare those parks for gate three and avoid cannibalization. By pushing gate three forward, I’m concerned projects like SNW being pushed to gate three will mean USF and IoA won’t see the levels of investment needed to keep them from falling behind. The MK as main park came from failure to properly invest in the other gates and the loss of offerings/capacity at Epcot and MGM. UNI north parks can’t become a one day deal for guests. UNI needs to make the case that you need three days minimum at USO and evenly distributed quality product is the best approach.

It’s great UNI is spending lots of money on the parks and on their long term future with the property acquisitions, hint hint Disney. But as we know from the late 90’s when spending at P&R, as percentage of revenue, was at its highest, that doesn’t mean quality product or product best suited to the resort’s long term needs. I’m concerned CSMA will keep pouring money into the unit and the dunderheads at the top will squander the resort’s potential by doing things like rushing a third gate. The UNI model is arguably more capital intensive because it relies on the latest/most popular IPs. Balancing the needs of three parks long term will be a challenge seeing Disney’s difficulties in FL.

If UNI can keep adding substantive lands/attractions to USF/IoA and build a classic Disney quality themed third gate around WDW50, that’d be awesome and would really destroy their current business model. I’m just not that confident in the people running UNI to be able to pull off such a coup.
 

Mike S

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Gate three being a half day park seems unlikely. Rather, my concern stems from Disney’s inability to properly invest in their other parks after DAK opened in 98 through to today. USF and IoA had pretty good roadmaps for major additions like Super Nintendo World to prepare those parks for gate three and avoid cannibalization. By pushing gate three forward, I’m concerned projects like SNW being pushed to gate three will mean USF and IoA won’t see the levels of investment needed to keep them from falling behind. The MK as main park came from failure to properly invest in the other gates and the loss of offerings/capacity at Epcot and MGM. UNI north parks can’t become a one day deal for guests. UNI needs to make the case that you need three days minimum at USO and evenly distributed quality product is the best approach.

It’s great UNI is spending lots of money on the parks and on their long term future with the property acquisitions, hint hint Disney. But as we know from the late 90’s when spending at P&R, as percentage of revenue, was at its highest, that doesn’t mean quality product or product best suited to the resort’s long term needs. I’m concerned CSMA will keep pouring money into the unit and the dunderheads at the top will squander the resort’s potential by doing things like rushing a third gate. The UNI model is arguably more capital intensive because it relies on the latest/most popular IPs. Balancing the needs of three parks long term will be a challenge seeing Disney’s difficulties in FL.

If UNI can keep adding substantive lands/attractions to USF/IoA and build a classic Disney quality themed third gate around WDW50, that’d be awesome and would really destroy their current business model. I’m just not that confident in the people running UNI to be able to pull off such a coup.
Yeah I’m not reading of any significant land additions aside from that constantly brought up Ministry of Magic. Since the park’s coming sooner than expected they probably are saving most of the good stuff. Past the Harry Potter coaster the things I’ve seen discussed are a JP coaster and a Jason Bourne action/stunt show replacing T2.

Very exciting...
 

AEfx

Well-Known Member
Yeah I’m not reading of any significant land additions aside from that constantly brought up Ministry of Magic. Since the park’s coming sooner than expected they probably are saving most of the good stuff. Past the Harry Potter coaster the things I’ve seen discussed are a JP coaster and a Jason Bourne action/stunt show replacing T2.

Very exciting...

I just don't get why they are dragging their behinds on JP...unless they are planning on it making a big deal in the new park.
 

Princess Leia

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I just don't get why they are dragging their behinds on JP...unless they are planning on it making a big deal in the new park.
Jurassic Park desperately needs a third offering. I was there in November, and it was too cold to ride the River Adventure, and we’re all adults so we couldn’t ride the Pteradactyls. Plus, the Raptor Encounter was on a 15 minute or so break. I don’t think a coaster is needed, but if they could fit a dark ride in there, that would be preferred
 

ford91exploder

Resident Curmudgeon
Gate three being a half day park seems unlikely. Rather, my concern stems from Disney’s inability to properly invest in their other parks after DAK opened in 98 through to today. USF and IoA had pretty good roadmaps for major additions like Super Nintendo World to prepare those parks for gate three and avoid cannibalization. By pushing gate three forward, I’m concerned projects like SNW being pushed to gate three will mean USF and IoA won’t see the levels of investment needed to keep them from falling behind. The MK as main park came from failure to properly invest in the other gates and the loss of offerings/capacity at Epcot and MGM. UNI north parks can’t become a one day deal for guests. UNI needs to make the case that you need three days minimum at USO and evenly distributed quality product is the best approach.

It’s great UNI is spending lots of money on the parks and on their long term future with the property acquisitions, hint hint Disney. But as we know from the late 90’s when spending at P&R, as percentage of revenue, was at its highest, that doesn’t mean quality product or product best suited to the resort’s long term needs. I’m concerned CSMA will keep pouring money into the unit and the dunderheads at the top will squander the resort’s potential by doing things like rushing a third gate. The UNI model is arguably more capital intensive because it relies on the latest/most popular IPs. Balancing the needs of three parks long term will be a challenge seeing Disney’s difficulties in FL.

If UNI can keep adding substantive lands/attractions to USF/IoA and build a classic Disney quality themed third gate around WDW50, that’d be awesome and would really destroy their current business model. I’m just not that confident in the people running UNI to be able to pull off such a coup.

Remember though UNI creative succeeds in spite of itself many times mainly because the suits are not micromanaging every decision
 

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